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McShogun99 said:
It’s that kind of thinking that made us pass on Walstedt. In the last 8 years there have been numerous young/rookie goalies that played a key role in winning Cups. Murray, Binnington, Hill, Busse. Then you had a guy like Dobes taking Montreal to the Conference final.
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This is a very good point. Not just over the last few years but during all of McDrai era we have shied away from what many called lateral moves on goaltending possibilities. Only to see those “lateral moves” become 1a s or starters shortly after being traded. Or in the case you brought up surpass our “future goaltenders” quite quickly out of the draft. This is why I was ok with the Ingram trade last year. The second that skinner started to crack we could have capitalized and got another goalie. We always wait too long to make a trade it seems.
 
WaitingForUser said:
This is a very good point. Not just over the last few years but during all of McDrai era we have shied away from what many called lateral moves on goaltending possibilities. Only to see those “lateral moves” become 1a s or starters shortly after being traded. Or in the case you brought up surpass our “future goaltenders” quite quickly out of the draft. This is why I was ok with the Ingram trade last year. The second that skinner started to crack we could have capitalized and got another goalie. We always wait too long to make a trade it seems.
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Isn’t skinner an example of a young goalie that went to the cup final? Like, as a rookie he went to WCF and then he went to SCF or something like that?

It’s kinda comical… “boo skinner if it wasn’t for that bum we coulda had a young goalie that could have made it to the finals!”

Honestly a goalie with that much experience and still relatively young would be a great fit here as 1B.

Our team D was often atrocious in front of him. Total Chinese fire drill , whatever that means.

Too bad we haven’t had a 1A in like 84 years
 
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ThePhoenixx said:
So Spector believes Bowman is going to make a bad trade because he is in a hurry to grab something shiny on the first. That the other GMs' are playing him.

Sigh.

He's probably right.
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It sure looks like that which is why I think any Nurse trade made this offseason will be ugly for the Oilers and why it's stupid for Bowman to rush a trade. If Nurse doesn't like it then too bad expand your trade list then or play out the season here and get traded next season wherever the best deal available is.

Of course, I fully expect Bowman to make a panic Nurse trade that is highly unfavorable for the team because Bowman has no ability to properly assess the trade market it seems.
 
alphahelix said:
Isn’t skinner an example of a young goalie that went to the cup final? Like, as a rookie he went to WCF and then he went to SCF or something like that?

It’s kinda comical… “boo skinner if it wasn’t for that bum we coulda had a young goalie that could have made it to the finals!”

Honestly a goalie with that much experience and still relatively young would be a great fit here as 1B.

Our team D was often atrocious in front of him. Total Chinese fire drill , whatever that means.

Too bad we haven’t had a 1A in like 84 years
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Skinner had a terrific Rookie season. His save percentage and play went down every after. He got worse every year.

We made two finals despite goaltending not because of it. Is it all on him? Not at all it’s on poor and rushed development .But my point is we hold on to players way too long and get no value from trading them.
 
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alphahelix said:
Isn’t skinner an example of a young goalie that went to the cup final? Like, as a rookie he went to WCF and then he went to SCF or something like that?

It’s kinda comical… “boo skinner if it wasn’t for that bum we coulda had a young goalie that could have made it to the finals!”

Honestly a goalie with that much experience and still relatively young would be a great fit here as 1B.

Our team D was often atrocious in front of him. Total Chinese fire drill , whatever that means.

Too bad we haven’t had a 1A in like 84 years
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Have you forgotten the 1A 1B master combo of Roloson and Garon?
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Rafters said:
I don’t mind it, WPG gets weaker, Hellebuck out of the West and makes FLA road a little more difficult
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Truth be told the East look like they've finally caught on to FLA's antics.

Both CLB and WAS have gotten BIG upfront, and BUF has an endless supply of annoying pricks up and down their lineup (to the point I think they could actually beat FLA at their own game). Even a team like BOS, who I wouldn't consider overly mean, is till able to toss Kastelic, Kuraly, and Jeannot on the ice when needed.
 
McShogun99 said:
It’s that kind of thinking that made us pass on Walstedt. In the last 8 years there have been numerous young/rookie goalies that played a key role in winning Cups. Murray, Binnington, Hill, Busse. Then you had a guy like Dobes taking Montreal to the Conference final.
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Lol- that wasnt the thinking that made us pass on Walstedt. It was our shitty goalie scout Jeff Sajelko (sp). The Oilers have also never been in a situation where the Oilers have 1 year of McDavid before they decide on moving him. The situations are completely different. The oilers literally cannot gamble on the position. They should have claimed Dipietro last year. Even Bussi was available
 
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Tarus said:
It's amazing how many GMs look like geniuses because their scouting staffs go on lucky streaks at the draft over a 3 - 5 year stretch that put together cup winning capable cores, usually with a bunch of home run picks in the later rounds.
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Starting with Stamkos and Hedman doesn’t hurt as well.
 
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Kinda wondering how everyone feels about Colton Dach. I really like the kid, he actually put up points in the few games he played and some of them were nice little plays.

I don’t think he did much in Chicago this season but put up pretty impressive AHL numbers before that.

Not saying he’s gonna be a top 6 winger anytime soon, but I definitely have him penciled in on that 4th line opening night. Big kid, decent hands, love his effort, I think he could become a real fan favorite pretty soon being a hometown kid to boot.
 
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lilghost said:
Not a bad deal by Colorado. Nuke was great, now he sucks, cap space and picks to deal for a replacement.
Seems like something this current version of the Oilers should do with Nuge, but won’t because of reasons.
This organization seems so dang stagnated these days.
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Nuge isn't going anywhere unless he expressly wants to for the remander of his contract.
 
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