Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | If Babcock is Our New Coach Will Players Want to Come Here?

[Bryanbryoil]

Coming off a first round loss it might already give pause to some players in terms of us being a legitimate contender. Add in the Babcock effect and did we just cook ourselves in terms of player acquisition?

 

[Shathar]

Every morning I have to re-read articles about the Oilers and Babcock because I just assume I had a nightmare

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

I don’t even know what’s going on. It’s a circus

 

[94 Oil Drops]

I swear that the ghost of Harold Ballard is possessing Daryl Katz to do this.

 

[Mr Kot]

 

[Scraping ice]

haaaahhahahaha........the insanity of it all

or is it Katz telling Gettman take a lick of my tapioca pudding.?

 

[Del Preston]

What are the chances more shit comes out about what happened in Columbus?

 

[jlockhart89]

What are the chances more shit comes out about what happened in Columbus?

I’d say pretty low, I can’t imagine Babcock would put himself in a position where even MORE negative publicity came out that he scooted out of initially. The league/NHLPA looking into it prior to employment isn’t a shock to him I’m sure.

 

[Del Preston]

I’d say pretty low, I can’t imagine Babcock would put himself in a position where even MORE negative publicity came out that he scooted out of initially. The league/NHLPA looking into it prior to employment isn’t a shock to him I’m sure.

The league denying the hire and Stauffer explaining on his show why Babcock was always the wrong choice would be amazing radio.

 

[bellagiobob]

I don’t even know what’s going on. It’s a circus

Can hardly wait to hear who our third choice is going to be.

 

[rboomercat90]

The league denying the hire and Stauffer explaining on his show why Babcock was always the wrong choice would be amazing radio.

After coasting for years Stauffer is gonna earn that Baghdad Bob nickname this summer.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

The league denying the hire and Stauffer explaining on his show why Babcock was always the wrong choice would be amazing radio.

We were always at war with Eurasia

 

[Fourier]

Coming off a first round loss it might already give pause to some players in terms of us being a legitimate contender. Add in the Babcock effect and did we just cook ourselves in terms of player acquisition?

This is a real issue. The fact that some players love him does not change the optics here. Throw in the uncertainty of a McDavid extension and the Oilers will have an even tougher time competing for UFA's than in recent years. And its not like all the top players have jumped at their first chance to wear the Oil Drop.

 

[Fourier]

Who knows what happened in phone gate. For me the big question is why they fell Babcock is the man for the moment at all. I still say, he did nothing in Toronto to foster any playoff success. There is no evidence that he can translate his Detroit success from two decades ago to today's NHL.

 

[Darkwinter]

I Im starting to think we have nothing to lose. It's time we brought in a coach with a set of balls. How many cucks have we had behind the bench nd it got us nowhere

 

[Zerotonine]

What are the chances more shit comes out about what happened in Columbus?

Its actually starting to come out as a nothing burger. One of the younger guys was offended amd we have all talked about the younger generation being different and much more soft and beeding to be coddled amd such

I'm not a Babcock fan, but like most are starting to point out. We have had muffin after muffin for coaches over the last decade. Let's see what some one w5oth some passion and a fking backbone can do for this team.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

I've been championing giving a 2nd chance to Michael McLeod as a good heavy 4th line C, but with us bringing in Babcock we've expended all of our 2nd chance PR capital, so I am officially abandoning that idea entirely.

When I thought we were getting Cassidy, I figured we'd likely be capped at 1 undersized forward as that seems to be the norm for him, but with Babcock coming in I feel like the doors are more open for Hutson and Howard (and maybe even Hamblin) to get a fair shot.

Given how Babcock's coaching proclivities, I suspect we'll get better performances out of Walman, Nuge, and Dach under him and while I want to say Frederic, I think its a matter of Babcock pushing him to that next level or he cracks under the pressure and it becomes more obvious that we have to buy him out next offseason. Babcocks coaching style isn't healthy, but the pressure he applies tends to get you clarity on whether the player is good enough or not.


No one I trust has mentioned anything about it yet, but the little murmurs on Twitter about Hellebuyck wanting to be traded to FLA make me sick. Just seeing the number of players try to strong arm their way to prime locations (Larkin being the most recent confirmed example) makes me want a rule change. I think any player that requests a trade and has a full NMC or NTC should be forced to give their team a 5 team trade list, no more picking exactly where you want to go and destroying all leverage of the team seemingly forced to trade. And for anyone arguing you aren't forced to trade them, you can just not trade them or wait them out till they give more options, having players that don't want to be there and very publicly so is always going to be corrosive to the team morale and internal roster dynamics, it usually ends up better if you accommodate them and take a bad trade then let locker room toxicity fester.

 

[94 Oil Drops]

Its actually starting to come out as a nothing burger. One of the younger guys was offended amd we have all talked about the younger generation being different and much more soft and beeding to be coddled amd such

I'm not a Babcock fan, but like most are starting to point out. We have had muffin after muffin for coaches over the last decade. Let's see what some one wothvsome passion and a fking backbone can do for this team.

Ken Hitchcock coached this team in 2019. That's less than 10 years ago. I'm not even opposed to bringing in someone tough on players but digging up an old fossil that nobody else wanted who's completely out of touch with the modern NHL ain't it.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Ken Hitchcock coached this team in 2019. That's less than 10 years ago. I'm not even opposed to bringing in someone tough on players but digging up an old fossil that nobody else wanted who's completely out of touch with the modern NHL ain't it.

I do not like Sutter and his stupid BS, but he's a dramatic upgrade on what's being discussed with Cassidy out of reach.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Ken Hitchcock coached this team in 2019. That's less than 10 years ago. I'm not even opposed to bringing in someone tough on players but digging up an old fossil that nobody else wanted who's completely out of touch with the modern NHL ain't it.

Cassidy is 61
Babcock is 63

So I guess Cassidy also meets the definition of fossil. People forget Babcock got the head coaching gig in Detroit in his early 40’s so it seems like he’s way older than he is. If it wasn’t for Bissonnette blowing things out of proportion for what happened in Columbus, which Jenner & Gaudreau denied it was nowhere near as malicious as made out to be, he’s probably still coaching the CBJ as that was at the start of the 23-24 season.

 

[Arpeggio]

Assuming Babcock is hired, I assume this is some indication of the type of player they’ll be targeting in the offseason. I’m sure we’ll hear that the Oilers are interested in bringing Perry and Kane back into the mix. I think they’ll likely sign Mikheyev. It’s gonna be players that are abrasive in some way, who aren’t afraid of playing for a coach like Babcock.

 

[foshizzle]

Assuming Babcock is hired, I assume this is some indication of the type of player they’ll be targeting in the offseason. I’m sure we’ll hear that the Oilers are interested in bringing Perry and Kane back into the mix. I think they’ll likely sign Mikheyev. It’s gonna be players that are abrasive in some way, who aren’t afraid of playing for a coach like Babcock.

He'll hate Kane. Babcock plays a possession game and doesnt really encourage physicality. His teams are always amongst the lowest penalized. Perry, yes. He's a veteran voice that can shut Babs down when he gets in Savoie's face

 

[McDNicks17]

Assuming Babcock is hired, I assume this is some indication of the type of player they’ll be targeting in the offseason. I’m sure we’ll hear that the Oilers are interested in bringing Perry and Kane back into the mix. I think they’ll likely sign Mikheyev. It’s gonna be players that are abrasive in some way, who aren’t afraid of playing for a coach like Babcock.

He isn't really one of those size/physicality/grit dinosaurs. He's a lot more speed/tenacity. Guys like Helm, Tatar, Hudler, Abdelkader, Filppula, Brown, Kapanen, Kerfoot, etc.

The best example of a Babcock player on the roster is probably Savoie.

 

[94 Oil Drops]

Cassidy is 61
Babcock is 63

So I guess Cassidy also meets the definition of fossil. People forget Babcock got the head coaching gig in Detroit in his early 40’s so it seems like he’s way older than he is. If it wasn’t for Bissonnette blowing things out of proportion for what happened in Columbus, which Jenner & Gaudreau denied it was nowhere near as malicious as made out to be, he’s probably still coaching the CBJ as that was at the start of the 23-24 season.

Even if he isn't that old that doesn't change the fact that his brain is stuck in 2002. Hasn't won anything in years. I would love to be wrong about all of this and for Babs to go down in history as a Canadian national hero, playing a major role in an Edmonton Oilers Stanley Cup victory but the odds of that happening seem astronomically low.

Assuming Babcock is hired, I assume this is some indication of the type of player they’ll be targeting in the offseason. I’m sure we’ll hear that the Oilers are interested in bringing Perry and Kane back into the mix. I think they’ll likely sign Mikheyev. It’s gonna be players that are abrasive in some way, who aren’t afraid of playing for a coach like Babcock.

He'll hate Kane. Babcock plays a possession game and doesnt really encourage physicality. His teams are always amongst the lowest penalized. Perry, yes. He's a veteran voice that can shut Babs down when he gets in Savoie's face

Putting Kane on a team coached by Babcock would be like putting a timed nuclear bomb in your own garage. Then again, nothing would surprise me when it comes to management decisions at this point.

 

[Snuggs]

Wings fan.

He'll put your star players in check. Maybe it'll be good for Draisaitl/Nurse/McDavid. IDK. Hard to say they haven't been 'coddled' somewhat most their careers. We're watching to see what happens! Winning or losing this isn't more than a 3 year stint, imo, likely 2 years.