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McTonyBrar said:
Everybody keeps talking about how this Final has been amazing.

I’m sorry to those people but how? It’s just like every other final except this one has teams no one cares about.
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It’s been pretty fun to watch. Just had a game where 2 all time records were broken. Marner with the fastest hatty then Carolina with the fastest 3 goals. I’ve been enjoying it so far, kinda nice to watch without all the anxiety that comes with your own team being in the final
 
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McDoused said:
I suspect this post gets a lot of likes because fans are frustrated with losing people, even though you're misremembering.

Holloway and Broberg were offersheets, which Bowman wasnt responsible for. I dont want to rehash this whole thing but if you really want your can give Bowman like 5% of the blame for being on the job for 2 weeks.

Foegele wasnt signed (had 0 points in the playoffs this year) and walked before Bowman arrived. They used that money on Skinner and Arvidsson (which Bowman was able to dump to Boston).

McLeod was already traded before Bowman arrived. Fans forget how poorly Holland managed the cap and how signing Henrique forced us to move him. The decisions Holland made earlier in the season where "coming to roost" as it were.

Kane screwed us over by refusing to move earlier (Bowman was eventually able to dump him to Vancouver). This was hollands contract with trade protection to a guy who should never be given trade protection. Perry (LA signed him to a 4M contract and btw he had 0 points in the playoffs this year). I dont get how anyone thinks adding a 40 year old player to the roster at that price is a good idea.

Moving out from Ceci was *chefs kiss*. Fans thought we would have to attach a 1st to do so. Not only did we not have to, we got Emberson back. (To this point you're noticing a trend of getting out of bad contracts he didnt sign.)

So that leaves 3 guys you can criticize Bowman for. Kulak and Jarry were in the same trade. Both guys are UFAs now if you want them. It was a brutal trade but lets not pretend Skinner was the answer.

Connor Brown went like 40 games without a goal here but its a shame we werent able to sign him. I would have liked to see him sign here. Choosing Frederic over Brown was a mistake. You could argue that adding Kapanen off waivers or Podkolzin in the offseason made up for it.

Having said all of that, the core is all still here. Their was no mitch marner leaving or big trade made that shook up the team. The core guys were the ones that took us to the back to back finals.

Bowman deserves a lot of criticism but I think fans just like to pile on him because hes the current GM. As you pointed out Jackson was a huge problem. He should have only ever been brought in to build out and hire guys to fill the organization, not make hockey decisions.
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A very fair and rational response and you’re right to push back.
I’ll argue that Holloway and Broberg are somewhat, on Bowman, especially with how urgently he tried to replace them. I’m not sure he wasn’t aware of how important their roles were.
Foegele, was a tough one. He’s been arguably one of the best third liners in Mcdavids era as an Oiler, losing him over a million, ehhh.
Perry, Kane, perhaps. But Perry’s Kings were vastly overmatched, and you might not deny that he was a better fit in Oiler stripes and may have been a factor against his former club when push came to shove and they needed heart. Kane, as well, his soul seemed to leave his body once he left. He was a warrior the previous runs, would he have been this last year?
Ceci had tremendous visible warts, is Murphy a first rounder better than him? Maybe, maybe not. CFCould they have afforded all these folks? Now, sure, back then, likely not, though they kept projects like Janmark and Pickard around. It’s a game of what if’s.

The core is there in Mcdraiboochnuge, but are they really better without that outer core that did a lot of heavy lifting?
 
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lilghost said:
A very fair and rational response and you’re right to push back.
I’ll argue that Holloway and Broberg are somewhat, on Bowman, especially with how urgently he tried to replace them. I’m not sure he wasn’t aware of how important their roles were.
Foegele, was a tough one. He’s been arguably one of the best third liners in Mcdavids era as an Oiler, losing him over a million, ehhh.
Perry, Kane, perhaps. But Perry’s Kings were vastly overmatched, and you might not deny that he was a better fit in Oiler stripes and may have been a factor against his former club when push came to shove and they needed heart. Kane, as well, his soul seemed to leave his body once he left. He was a warrior the previous runs, would he have been this last year?
Ceci had tremendous visible warts, is Murphy a first rounder better than him? Maybe, maybe not. CFCould they have afforded all these folks? Now, sure, back then, likely not, though they kept projects like Janmark and Pickard around. It’s a game of what if’s.

The core is there in Mcdraiboochnuge, but are they really better without that outer core that did a lot of heavy lifting?
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When do you think Bowman started? Because it was after Foegele left. I have no idea how you can blame him for that.

Ill continue to disagree on the offer sheets. If I was on the job for 2 weeks and put in the same position as him, your just the guy standing their getting blamed for the previous guys failures.

Also are you trying to suggest that Evander Kane only started to suck after he was traded? Im pretty sure he had like a -18 penalty differential in his last run with us.

Yes Murphy is better than Ceci. Its not much of a what If.

Bowman deserves criticim but anyone who thinks hes the guy that screwed this team up needs investigate further.
 
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hes more expensive than jarry same years and is coming off an .883 sv percentage over 3 gaa pass.
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you want to discuss Jersey. They have both Simon and Seamus needing NHL minutes.
As far as goalies ....none of the retreads seem worth their salt. One probably has a good year. Super hard to figure out.
Keep Ingram if you can and Jarry....get another goalie coach....i recommend interim guy in montreal Marco Marciano....and load up our farm team with top potential guys.
Since its unlikely Stanley can fix goaltending....he has no clue about the position to begin with....fix our Defense- upgrade it.
Standing pat in the NHL is for losers. All your comp is trying to get better.
 
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