Agreed. This is when it sucks to have those millions tied up in dead cap
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alphahelix
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Staios didn’t want to take any money back and wanted to load up on picks because they’re planning on using all theirs to offer sheet Jason Robertson, or force Dallas to accept a trade for multiple picks with the threat of an offer sheet. They’re allocating a lot of cap to Robertson either way.
He is the 1st team all star at his position, and he is younger, so maybe it makes some sense.
Agree on McMann, but then, we should have 1000% outbid to acquire him in the 1st place. We weren’t going anywhere without him. I love how often management likes to repeat “we’re all in!” Only to leave guys like McMann hanging in the wind over 2nd round pick
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If they can deal Nurse for a cheap LD making 1 mil like Wotherspoon from Pitts, sign Tuch to 10m and Murphy for 5, it leaves enough for a backup goalie around 2m per and a cheap 13th forward and 7th D.
Savoie McDavid Hyman
Howard Drai Tuch
RNH Dickinson Freddy
Dach Samanski ? ( >1M)
Lazar
Ekholm Bouchard
Walman Murphy
Wotherspoon Emberson
Statsney
Jarry
Cossa/Levi 2nd round pick ‘26 used for goalie trade
Requires a very specific set of moves:
-Our 2nd this year for Cossa (extended $1.5M x 2) or Lyon (makes the same)
-Nurse, our 3rd this year, and 2nd in 2027 for Justin Brazeau (a Pens fan proposed this and I liked it)
-Sign Carson Soucy or a similar LD for around $3M (Soucy might take a Kulak esque deal to sign at home, Stauffer has mentioned him for literal years)
-Extend Dach for around $1.2M
-Extend Murphy 7 x $4.5M
Leaves $8M for Tuch, which would be a bit of a discount in this environment:
Hyman-McDavid-Savoie
RNH-Draisaitl-Tuch
Podkolzin-Dickinson-Brazeau
Dach-Samanski-Frederic
Janmark
Ekholm-Bouchard
Walman-Murphy
Soucy-Emberson
Regula
Jarry
Cossa/Lyon
Like $700K in cap but again those are very favourable guesses, any more for Tuch and it’s not possible really
Before that happened, they were the team that couldn't win a game in the Conference Finals. It takes one run to change the narrative.
I mean that's no less than 5 moves that they hit pay dirt on (Stankoven, Ehlers, Miller, Hall, Bussi), they did a lot of work to get that dial to move.
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Podz says Hi.
We also have Janmark under contract and some dead cap to factor in
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I believe that and you believe that, but the league wasn't clamoring for Taylor Hall, there is a reason he is signed to a $3.17M contract. Hall should of been an in demand player, but he wasn't and he is one of many value deals that CAR has on the books.
Also as a reminder the discussion wasn't me arguing that CAR didn't make good and substantive additions to their team, it was they aren't at the forefront of adding big names every season like VGK and FLA are continually doing.
I agree that is what good management teams do and heck some people on this board like to pretend they are like that too, but when it comes to the actual practice of selling high and buying the dip no one other than a small handful of posters are actually ok with doing that.Soundwave said:
The norm for this board is want to pay through the nose to get rid of problem contracts like Jarry & Frederic and pay up big time on guys with little track record of success who are on a heater like McMann or Sherwood.
They will give Jarry another chance most likely. This team gave Skinner like what? 3 or 4 chances to run it back? They don't have many assets anyway to A) move Jarry B) get someone else who is good. Though I suspect the thought of somehow trying to move Jarry to throw a bunch of money at Bobrovsky in a desperate plea to show McDavid they're doing everything they can might be a dream Stan has.
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Yeah needless to say they shouldn’t give him another chance but that’s what we do I suppose.
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Oh wow how could I have forgotten Pods? That makes the forward group very deep. Waiving Janmark frees up almost his entire cap hit. Signing Lazar for the same money he made last year and waiving Janmark saves close to 500k on the cap. Tuch is doable, but it hinges on how much the Nurse trade clears.
Stankoven was the slam dunk, they needed to hit on that to make up for the Rantanen blunder and it turned out to be a massive hit for them. Then Ehlers and Miller would be the next ones up. Hall was a decent buy low, not that surprising that he would turn it up with a shot at the Cup so close, but he's probably like the 4th best add they made.
And going by your comment Florida can’t even make the playoffs
They've been a team that's kept the cap space open for several years. They've stockpiled draft picks and they've kept their payroll low due to the tax advantage. They're a successful version of the Sea of Mid.
But the point is that they were a team that consistently fell short year after year--until they didn't.
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Brady is more of a wingnut than Matthew so this is one trade I could see having the potential to backfire on the Panthers.
One thing is for sure, that team has open season to injure as many other players as they can with DOPS immunity and you know Brady will be head hunting. I wonder how many guys they put on LTIR with no suspensions or fines this year.
One thing is for sure, that team has open season to injure as many other players as they can with DOPS immunity and you know Brady will be head hunting. I wonder how many guys they put on LTIR with no suspensions or fines this year.
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Good points! I always like seeing people’s thoughts on here on our cap situation and allocating money. I’m back to work tomorrow so I’ll start number crunching as well. Sounds like they r close on Murphy. Like that. Not bad for Dickenson.
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In general stay away from high profile US born players, will end up forcing a trade at some point.
Requesting a trade is fine. But the NTC f***s it up. It gives these dicks the chance to go where they want
Well they wouldn't likely have won without those adds (Stankoven, Ehlers, Miller) ... probably not.
This is not like some kindegarten game where everyone gets a turn to be fair. You have to make Cups happen, they don't just fall out of the sky. You have to make a lot of good moves generally to win a Cup.
Carolina might have a slight tax advantage on a handful of teams, but they aren't one of the income tax free states like Florida, Vegas, Dallas etc.
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Keep flip flopping between Vegas and FLA as to which team I hate the most. Seems to change daily.
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