Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Does Bowman Make His Mark on the Team Before Training Camp?

[Jumptheshark]

We need to add legit nhl d

Our D right now?

Ekholm
Bouchard


NURSE


Kulak

Josh brown
Ty Emberson
Troy stecher

 

[GMofOilers]

Go get that Nashville goalie with the Blues 2nd

 

[La Bamba]

Cool, do we have the assets required to bring in a top 4 D?

I wouldn’t like to trade them but Savoie, O’Reilly, Akey, 2nd round pick are good chips

 

[LTIR]

Cool, do we have the assets required to bring in a top 4 D?

Sure. Akey, O'Reilly, Savoie to name a few.
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I think keeping our top 4 RD past this season would be a bigger worry than adding another one.

We need to add legit nhl d

Our D right now?

Ekholm
Bouchard


NURSE


Kulak

Josh brown
Ty Emberson
Troy stecher

Good enough for another 100pt season

 

[9911]

For now I hope we sign Barrie to a PTO.

Agreed. He's worth a look. And he can stay in his house that is still for sale.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Go get that Nashville goalie with the Blues 2nd

I don't think they want to trade him for a 2nd.

 

[LTIR]

I don't think they want to trade him for a 2nd.

We can throw Rodrigue along with the pick

 

[Mcnofool6110]

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Ceci
Kulak-Desharnais
Broberg
---
Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Stetcher/Emberson
Kulak-Stetcher/Emberson
Brown? Clifton? Wanner?

Doom and gloom, because, you know, Oilers. Should also be said the first d core wasnt exactly "fantastic". Probably middle of the pack. Ceci, for my book, is better than Stetcher. Agree to disagree. Desharnais, again for my book, is better than Emberson. Probably marginally, and Emberson has some untapped potential,

I'd say Broberg is the best player of the four mentioned, even on his offside, and his versatility will be missed if (when) injuries hit.

Bouchard, for his incredible skill in 2.5 zones, is not a particularly gifted defensive player, especially in front of his own net, and we are all aware of his still present penchant for give-aways. He was also very much our 3rd option on the PKAL. At least with Desharnais, we had one guy able to play defence (and PK!!!!!) on a shut-down high minute situation, until his untimely injury and subsequent downtick in play v Dallas, and Broberg performed affably on his wrong side.

Hopefully Emberson, a defensive defenceman who succeeded in SJS (that's positive), can step into Desharnais' role as a first option RHD on the PK. It'll be a lot to ask Bouch to be a #1PP option and #2PK option, so hopefully Stetcher's that guy. In all likelihood, we platoon and hope until the deadline, where someone wants 3 3rds (or something) for a 2nd pairing RHD. I think the vaunted offence probably gets us through till then, but I will caveat that Ekholm's mild injury to start 4 weeks of the season nearly killed our team. Blame the coach/Campbell and Skinner and Schwartz/McInjury/the weather, but it's a factor. We have very little depth if injury hits.

This wouldn't be that much of a deal if Nurse, in year 3 of his 8 year deal of waytoomuchcap.25 million, could play like a competent or even above competent 2nd pairing dman regularly. I'm not even asking for him to be a top pairing guy. Just play your minutes. Nurse from the regular season last year struggled to be a 2nd pairing dman regularly. Nurse from the playoffs struggled to be an AHL calibre call-up. We're in for a particularly "interesting" season if the latter shows up

 

[ManofSteel55]

We can throw Rodrigue along with the pick

Not an awful idea, although I expect that 2nd rounder will be used on a RD sooner or later. Probably later, ha ha.

 

[Macblender]

And about 7.5M of cap space.

And not having to make more depth trades out to clear $5M of cap when Kane is back with your back against the wall

 

[ManofSteel55]

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Ceci
Kulak-Desharnais
Broberg
---
Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Stetcher/Emberson
Kulak-Stetcher/Emberson
Brown? Clifton? Wanner?

Doom and gloom, because, you know, Oilers. Should also be said the first d core wasnt exactly "fantastic". Probably middle of the pack. Ceci, for my book, is better than Stetcher. Agree to disagree. Desharnais, again for my book, is better than Emberson. Probably marginally, and Emberson has some untapped potential,

I'd say Broberg is the best player of the four mentioned, even on his offside, and his versatility will be missed if (when) injuries hit.

Bouchard, for his incredible skill in 2.5 zones, is not a particularly gifted defensive player, especially in front of his own net, and we are all aware of his still present penchant for give-aways. He was also very much our 3rd option on the PKAL. At least with Desharnais, we had one guy able to play defence (and PK!!!!!) on a shut-down high minute situation, until his untimely injury and subsequent downtick in play v Dallas, and Broberg performed affably on his wrong side.

Hopefully Emberson, a defensive defenceman who succeeded in SJS (that's positive), can step into Desharnais' role as a first option RHD on the PK. It'll be a lot to ask Bouch to be a #1PP option and #2PK option, so hopefully Stetcher's that guy. In all likelihood, we platoon and hope until the deadline, where someone wants 3 3rds (or something) for a 2nd pairing RHD. I think the vaunted offence probably gets us through till then, but I will caveat that Ekholm's mild injury to start 4 weeks of the season nearly killed our team. Blame the coach/Campbell and Skinner and Schwartz/McInjury/the weather, but it's a factor. We have very little depth if injury hits.

This wouldn't be that much of a deal if Nurse, in year 3 of his 8 year deal of waytoomuchcap.25 million, could play like a competent or even above competent 2nd pairing dman regularly. I'm not even asking for him to be a top pairing guy. Just play your minutes. Nurse from the regular season last year struggled to be a 2nd pairing dman regularly. Nurse from the playoffs struggled to be an AHL calibre call-up. We're in for a particularly "interesting" season if the latter shows up

My biggest hope is that Knoblauch knows something about Emberson that the rest of the world doesn't, and he comes in and performs well right out of the gate.

 

[McTedi]

Bowman’s start with the Oilers

Broberg, Holloway, Ceci, 3Rd, 4th
For
Podkolzin, Emberson, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd some 5th round dude

Forced to shed cap as well, did alright imo

 

[Defsta]

My biggest hope is that Knoblauch knows something about Emberson that the rest of the world doesn't, and he comes in and performs well right out of the gate.

You know he has coached Emberson?

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

You don’t win by grossly over paying players who are still question marks.

This team is still a wagon and the team D they fostered in the second half of last year and playoffs is far more impactful then marginally downgrading the bottom half of the blue line.

Mark my words, this team wont skip a beat despite the personnel changes.

The issue is not losing the players. It's that this was a self-induced situation that led them into inflationary market pricing on two young NHL players than exceeded their spent budget and risk threshold. They allegedly walked from a last deadline deal with these players for a retained Buchnevich.

Getting off the overpay cycle is a critical need for a team that's tendency and reality to buy high. Failing to see danger and lose cheap value young talent is a massive issue that was avoidable.

 

[ManofSteel55]

You know he has coached Emberson?

Yes, that's exactly why he might know something about him that nobody else does.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Forced to shed cap as well, did alright imo

He did have to shed cap, and he was kind of forced into a tough situation by Holland, JJ and Armstrong. However, unfortunately the org is in a worse spot it was a week ago and that sucks. Not blaming him directly as I think in a vacuum the Ceci trade is fine but that huge whole is unfortunate but, can't really do anything.

My biggest hope is that Knoblauch knows something about Emberson that the rest of the world doesn't, and he comes in and performs well right out of the gate.

I have faith Emberson will be a solid 3rd pairing d.

 

[Ninety7]

Bring in the rat Rasmuss Andersson

 

[Canovin]

Go get that McGroarty kid

 

[Old Boys Club]

One of Stecher or Emberson will be a serviceable 3RHD. This issue is, as it always has been, the 2RHD spot which has the baked in handicap of being Nurse's partner. Broberg wasn't that guy, maybe he will be that guy, I doubt it, but maybe.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Bring in the rat Rasmuss Andersson

The price will be too steep. But a good fit if he was on any team other than Calgary.

I doubt he is still available, but Nashville was shopping Dante Fabbro earlier this summer. H might be a good fit in a shutdown capacity beside Nurse.

 

[McTedi]

Bring in the rat Rasmuss Andersson

Pretty sure he'd get beat up in his first practice, the dude is acutely unlikable.

 

[jukon]

Key is being able to accrue cap during the season.

 

[Mcnofool6110]

My biggest hope is that Knoblauch knows something about Emberson that the rest of the world doesn't, and he comes in and performs well right out of the gate.

Hope is a very Oilers way of running a defence. Hoping it pans out too.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Key is being able to accrue cap during the season.

This won't happen, unless Nurse is traded or something, because they'll be in ltir as they break camp

 

[ManofSteel55]

Hope is a very Oilers way of running a defence. Hoping it pans out too.

Well, we've went for 2 years trying and failing to upgrade on Ceci, and it cost us games. Now they are in a position where they have someone else/lesser pencilled into that spot, but actually have more cap space flexibility to make that move. We just need to have someone else cover that role for a bit.