Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Does Bowman Make His Mark on the Team Before Training Camp?

[ottawah]

Askarov's value is probably a 2nd and 3rd if I had to guess.

Askarov was drafted high first round and has not disappointed since. The athletic has him as the 2nd best G prospect after Waalsted, and those are the only tier 1 prospects. The hockey writers have him number 1.

He's not getting traded for a 2nd. Aside from that, Nashville is in a win now mode, so they'd want a solid player back.

 

[McHelpus]

Tbh Nashville looks like a pretty good team. I wouldn't want to give up anything valuable for them to use at the deadline.

 

[North]

Ask on mains if you think it's a valid question. Value wise Askarov and Rodrigue aren't close.

I don’t really care what the mains say.

 

[LTIR]

I don’t really care what the mains say.

Sure but it's a check on homerness.. otherwise we can claim anything here and skew the stats to back it up.

Eg. Kulak > Parayko

 

[Slats432]

Between pedigree, age and comparable performance, Askarov is superior to Rodrigue in value. I don't watch tons of goalie film but Askarov is in the highest echelon of goalie prospects.

 

[North]

Sure but it's a check on homerness.. otherwise we can claim anything here and skew the stats to back it up.

Eg. Kulak > Parayko

The mains aren’t a check on anything.

If you can’t see the generally skewed perspective on there with regards to the Oilers, I don’t know what to tell you.

That being said, I believe Askarov has more value than Rodrigue but Rodrigue has developed nicely for us so far so I don’t know that Askarov is a need.

 

[spot]

Probably already been mentioned here, but what about savoie for askarov? Then we hope that Holloway is matched and both he and podkolzin continues to grow.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

It's hard to keep track of sv% trends, is .911 elite in the AHL? I just don't see it as a priority for the Oilers when Rodrigue has been progressing well and is still young. The Oilers need to save what little trade assets they have for more impactful players imo.

But why throw out an opinion on a player when you didn't even bother to look at his stat line? Putting those numbers up at those ages is crazy.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Fkn Trolls. That organization is trash ..

https://x.com/i/web/status/1825545016909103254

They’re acting like they offersheeted RFA Duncan Keith and RFA Patrick Kane . Let the fools have their tartar sauce.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

They’re acting like they offersheeted RFA Duncan Keith and RFA Patrick Kane . Let the fools have their tartar sauce.

I heard these offer sheets will make them challenge for the division.

 

[Mr Kot]

Laine to Habs

 

[Paralyzer]

Whoa Patrik Laine going to Montreal. Wonder what they are getting for him lol.

 

[FlameChampion]

Whoa Patrik Laine going to Montreal. Wonder what they are getting for him lol.

Interested to see what the return is

 

[Arpeggio]

But why throw out an opinion on a player when you didn't even bother to look at his stat line? Putting those numbers up at those ages is crazy.

I did look at the stat line, .911 didn't strike me as crazy. When Skinner was 22 he had a .914 in the AHL, and while I have no idea how good Askarov will end up being, I don't remember anyone expecting Skinner to step in and be an elite NHL goalie following that season. But I thought maybe save percentages had significantly dropped in the AHL to where .911 would be standout.

When I think of elite AHL numbers, I think of a guy like Dustin Wolf putting up a .930. Looking at the top goalies in the NHL, they all put up better seasons than Askarov at the same age. A bunch of guys put up better numbers in the AHL than Askarov did last season.

If we're just looking at stats, I don't see what makes Askarov a can't miss guy. You're right though, I don't watch him. I will say, if he's not happy playing behind Jusse Saros (who btw, was putting up .920 and .930 in the AHL at Askarov's age), I can't imagine he's going to have a ton of time for playing behind Stuart Skinner.

 

[FlameChampion]

Columbus clearing space for Nurse. I don’t mind it.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

It's a shame NHL managements let their egos get in the way sometimes.

An Askarov for Broberg trade could have made a ton of sense for both teams at the start of the off-season.

 

[Paralyzer]

Patrik Laine and a 2nd Round Pick to Montreal for Jordan Harris. I'd say Edmonton got a better player in a cap dump scenario compared to this one.

 

[joestevens29]

I did look at the stat line, .911 didn't strike me as crazy. When Skinner was 22 he had a .914 in the AHL, and while I have no idea how good Askarov will end up being, I don't remember anyone expecting Skinner to step in and be an elite NHL goalie following that season. But I thought maybe save percentages had significantly dropped in the AHL to where .911 would be standout.

When I think of elite AHL numbers, I think of a guy like Dustin Wolf putting up a .930. Looking at the top goalies in the NHL, they all put up better seasons than Askarov at the same age. A bunch of guys put up better numbers in the AHL than Askarov did last season.

If we're just looking at stats, I don't see what makes Askarov a can't miss guy. You're right though, I don't watch him. I will say, if he's not happy playing behind Jusse Saros (who btw, was putting up .920 and .930 in the AHL at Askarov's age), I can't imagine he's going to have a ton of time for playing behind Stuart Skinner.

I don't think it's just being a backup in the NHL that is the issues. They signed Wedgewood as well in NSH making it likely Askarov was going to be sent to the minors and he doesn't want that.

 

[Slats432]

Patrik Laine and a 2nd Round Pick to Montreal for Jordan Harris. I'd say Edmonton got a better player in a cap dump scenario compared to this one.

Harris is the better player, but Montreal got a 26 year old top 3 pick that a year ago was a PPG. And a 2nd.

 

[joestevens29]

Patrik Laine and a 2nd Round Pick to Montreal for Jordan Harris. I'd say Edmonton got a better player in a cap dump scenario compared to this one.

Laine's contract is a lot worse though.

Also quite the different situation. Laine pretty much wouldn't play in CBJ anymore.

CBJ is kind of lucky it didn't cost more, but I guess CBJ also didn't have to trade Laine. They could've just waived him and sent him to the AHL.

Whole situation is kinda messed up lol.

 

[Arpeggio]

I don't think it's just being a backup in the NHL that is the issues. They signed Wedgewood as well in NSH making it likely Askarov was going to be sent to the minors and he doesn't want that.

I thought I read today that his relationship with Trotz soured right after they signed Saros to the 8 year extension.

 

[North]

Probably already been mentioned here, but what about savoie for askarov? Then we hope that Holloway is matched and both he and podkolzin continues to grow.

No.

We need forwards that can slot in when wingers like Skinner move on.

 

[joestevens29]

Harris is the better player, but Montreal got a 26 year old top 3 pick that a year ago was a PPG. And a 2nd.

Flip side is Laine hasn't played a full year since the covid year. Also now pushed himself out of two teams.

Him and Dubois very similar. They actually play a full season to their capability and they are game changers. Problem is that it doesn't happen every year.

 

[FlameChampion]

Harris is the better player, but Montreal got a 26 year old top 3 pick that a year ago was a PPG. And a 2nd.

I really like the majority of the moves Kent Hughes does

 

[Oilslick941611]

Tbh Nashville looks like a pretty good team. I wouldn't want to give up anything valuable for them to use at the deadline.

We have nothing of value to give up at the deadline anyway. We can’t lose anyone off the roster and have no cap to entertain upgrades. There is no reason to assume we will be in on anything come deadline, we had to dump our assets just to keep an overpaid Broberg.

Our Bullets are spent