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Desperate with few options on the board is the wrong time to make a big tradeThe oilers defence is in a desperate situation and that’s perfectly healthy with all hands on deck.
Oilers need a big trade now.
Desperate with few options on the board is the wrong time to make a big tradeThe oilers defence is in a desperate situation and that’s perfectly healthy with all hands on deck.
Oilers need a big trade now.
The whole point of the moves has been to accrue cap space for the deadline to improve it then so they don't have to gut the roster to do it now.The oilers defence is in a desperate situation and that’s perfectly healthy with all hands on deck.
Oilers need a big trade now.
Nah. The most critical pieces from a finals blue line are still in place, the performance downgrades of the 4/6 spots will be marginal.The oilers defence is in a desperate situation and that’s perfectly healthy with all hands on deck.
Oilers need a big trade now.
I wouldn’t touch Askarov. If things don’t go just right for him here he’ll whine and pout. If things go well for him here he’ll demand Bobrovsky/Sheshterkin numbers. Cause Russian Goalie gonna Russian Goalie.
Nah. The most critical pieces from a finals blue line are still in place, the performance downgrades of the 4/6 spots will be marginal.
Rushing a reactive trade would be foolish, there’s no market right now, they would just be throwing away assets. This team is good enough to weather the storm for the first half of the season the same way they became a top 5 defensive team in the league, by committee with good, structured play.
This reminds me of the year before last when fans were howling for Holland to trade for a defender in December/January when the options were the corpse of Edmundson or emptying the cupboards for Chychrun. Instead Holland waited until the trade market developed and made the best addition he could. Now just like then, patience will pay off.
The whole point of the moves has been to accrue cap space for the deadline to improve it then so they don't have to gut the roster to do it now.
Our right is fine. It’s not better by any means but it’s fine. Stetcher was a regular on the PK in AZ. Played over 2 minutes a game of PK time. Emberson has played some PK too a bit over a minute a game for the sharks. Our right side is by no means AHL caliber. We still have 4 NHL players there.This is the worst D we’ve had since before Ekholm (when the D was the Achilles heel). Nobody around here wanted Joel Edmundson despite Montreal fans trying to sell him for years.
There is nobody to play the PK on the right side. There is nobody with size on the bottom half of the D, there is nobody to play against elite opposition in the defensive zone. Darnell Nurse gonna carry the mail for you?
People severely underrated our right side (despite the fact that it was CLEARLY the area where we could best use an upgrade).
Going from “good enough” to AHL caliber is catastrophic. In today’s NHL, NOBODY can carry a team and compensate for sub-par defence. That includes McDavid and Drai. You’ll annihilate the San Jose’s of the NHL but when it comes down to a 7 game series vs. A good all-around team with good goaltending… you’re in deep
Our right is fine. It’s not better by any means but it’s fine. Stetcher was a regular on the PK in AZ. Played over 2 minutes a game of PK time. Emberson has played some PK too a bit over a minute a game for the sharks. Our right side is by no means AHL caliber. We still have 4 NHL players there.
Obviously our #1 priority and sole focus will be upgrading the right side. That being said it is absolutely fine to start the regular season. We’ve made the playoffs and even won rounds with the followingYa Emberson has played a LOT more PK in the AHL the last couple seasons than the NHL.
This reeks of decade of darkness copium. Come on, people. “We found a random AHLer so we don’t need any of those game 7 tested defenders anymore! Everything is fine! Bob Stauffer says he’s great!”
Stecher is an absolute midget. Size isn’t everything, but when you throw Desharnais in front of the net on the PK you know what you’re going to get. Stecher won’t be able to hang with elite/large offences. He’s going to box out Filip Forsberg and Ryan O’Reilly?
Our right side isn’t fine. Come on, man.
Before Woodcroft dipped into our AHL team and raised up Desharnais, the Oilers were DYING out there. It’s hilarious how people don’t remember how desperate this team was for RD like 2 years ago. Goldfish memory. We could have missed the playoffs that year if we didn’t staunch the bleeding on D.
Speaking of decade of darkness. Matching Brobergs ridiculous offer sheet would have been a decade of darkness thing. I’m glad we’re passed those days of desperation.Ya Emberson has played a LOT more PK in the AHL the last couple seasons than the NHL.
This reeks of decade of darkness copium. Come on, people. “We found a random AHLer so we don’t need any of those game 7 tested defenders anymore! Everything is fine! Bob Stauffer says he’s great!”
Stecher is an absolute midget. Size isn’t everything, but when you throw Desharnais in front of the net on the PK you know what you’re going to get. Stecher won’t be able to hang with elite/large offences. He’s going to box out Filip Forsberg and Ryan O’Reilly?
Our right side isn’t fine. Come on, man.
Before Woodcroft dipped into our AHL team and raised up Desharnais, the Oilers were DYING out there. It’s hilarious how people don’t remember how desperate this team was for RD like 2 years ago. Goldfish memory. We could have missed the playoffs that year if we didn’t staunch the bleeding on D.
Holloway or Broberg??? What could have been.Askarov would be a great add but I think that Nashville will want an actual warm body if they move him. Probably a young prospect with similar upside. That second from the Oilers would at best be around a 45th or so pick assuming it was St. Louis' pick (the Oilers don't have their 2nd). Even though goalies don't get a lot in return he is still a guy many would see as a top end goalie prospect. A mid second is not much of a return at this point. Of course things may change. Askarov may force their hand and the return may be less than expected. I just don't see that being the case right now.
Speaking of decade of darkness. Matching Brobergs ridiculous offer sheet would have been a decade of darkness thing. I’m glad we’re passed those days of desperation.
Save Emberson, I would say that Lindstrom would be my preference over the other three.Id have to think that this was already explored. It could be that salary or opportunity wasn't enough for the player. We already have 4 players (Embersen, Stetcher, Brown and Carrick) capable of bottom RD.
So overdramatic haha. No one was robbed and nothing was decimated.If that was “the whole point” of these moves (getting robbed blind and decimating the D), we are truly the worst-managed franchise in history.
We’ve all been paying very close attention to who has been/will be available on the RD side for the past couple years. The best guys coming up are… Adam Larsson? Who had a bad year last year and doesn’t even wanna play here.
Come on. Come trade deadline, you can’t magically invent a player that fills our needs and trade for them. Besides, nobody in the NHL is going to want to help us. The Flames going to gift wrap Rasmus Anderson for us? Or will they just trade him to Vancouver or LA for half the price… you know the answer.
Ya Emberson has played a LOT more PK in the AHL the last couple seasons than the NHL.
This reeks of decade of darkness copium. Come on, people. “We found a random AHLer so we don’t need any of those game 7 tested defenders anymore! Everything is fine! Bob Stauffer says he’s great!”
Stecher is an absolute midget. Size isn’t everything, but when you throw Desharnais in front of the net on the PK you know what you’re going to get. Stecher won’t be able to hang with elite/large offences. He’s going to box out Filip Forsberg and Ryan O’Reilly?
Our right side isn’t fine. Come on, man.
Before Woodcroft dipped into our AHL team and raised up Desharnais, the Oilers were DYING out there. It’s hilarious how people don’t remember how desperate this team was for RD like 2 years ago. Goldfish memory. We could have missed the playoffs that year if we didn’t staunch the bleeding on D.
I had similar memories of that COVID Canadian division year as well.
But then I looked back at the numbers and Nurse-Barrie had a 47.8% xG%
Nurse-Bear was 59.1
Nurse-Barrie's xGF was 5th in the NHL. Which sounds fantastic until you see that their xGA was the worst of any NHL pairing that year.
They certainly were the most eventful, but probably not successful top pairing.
I think that's fair. For the most part, they were a 5 man unit with McDavid's line. They were paid to bring the offence that year, despite giving up a lot the other way.
What I like about Barrie is his ability to pass the puck. I want guys who can spring our forwards with speed as part of our transition game. Barrie obviously isn't great in the corners but I would like to see how he does in the new system and with Coffey.
Barrie also worked well with Kulak, so even if he can't keep up and play with Nurse all the time, he would be able to play in the bottom pair. He would also help with a "2nd unit" powerplay.
For 775k or 1M, it's a no risk move.
I haven’t seen anything that suggests he will be worth nurse money in the future.You’re either right or you’re wrong, what can I say?
If Broberg, an 8th overall pick who a lot of hockey people have been extremely bullish on, who just played well in the cup finals, doesn’t develop into a top 4D- then yes, St Louis will have overpaid a few bucks.
If he is anything like what he looks to be, he’ll be getting Nurse money in 3 years time and people will be asking “how the f was Edmonton so stupid?” Time will tell.
All while being a -23 playing the fewest 5v5 minutes of any Seattle dman. The next closest was Borgen at -5. That also came with 2 minutes per game on the PP. Time he wouldn’t get here. At ES he had 16 points. Would have put him 5th among Oilers dmen, one ahead of Kulak.Kind of impressive that he had a miserable season and still manage to outscore over half our dmen despite being on a team that scored 80 less goals.
All while being a -23 playing the fewest 5v5 minutes of any Seattle dman. The next closest was Borgen at -5. That also came with 2 minutes per game on the PP. Time he wouldn’t get here. At ES he had 16 points. Would have put him 5th among Oilers dmen, one ahead of Kulak.
He’s cooked.
Well, they're in a far better spot if that happens now.Don't think it's that far fetched that we can limp through the season with the defense the way it stands and upgrade later, but WTF happens if one of Nurse, Bouchard or Ekholm get hurt?
And again if you trade Kulak last summer then you’re gifting a spot to a player who hasn’t never shown that he’s ready to be a full time NHLer, which was what was apparent.I was suggesting last summer that he could've been moved because of this very reason. I didn't suggest there'd be a team that offered Broberg an inflated offersheet, but it was apparent that a high pedigree prospect needed the runway in the final year of his ELC.
Crazy idea that winning a cup should be the goal, not pandering to an underperforming prospect who had looked disappointing in every chance they gave him to secure his spot.But maybe broberg just isn’t as good as Kulak and never will be. Kulak is elite in the 5 slot. He’s about as good as it gets in the nhl in that role. Maybe Broberg ends up being better but we can’t run the risk of trading a guy like Kulak to find out. We’re trying to win a cup here.
I like Askarov a lot. But he's not a fit in Edmonton either need wise or acquisition cost. Nashville was hedging their bets around retool or rebuild. With deciding on retool Saros became their longterm guy and then signed veteran Wedgewood to back-up.The trade request just came out and they're exploring options. Maybe a 2nd and a sweetener