The Bob father getting me excited.
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The Bob father getting me excited.
brentashton
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Is he suggesting that NHL coaches and GMs have never attended? BS.
He’s licking sphincters.
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It has everything to do with training camp because that's the type of LTIR you're talking about haha.
If you're disagreeing with that, you need to do some more reading.
Hmmm cryptic tweet…
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And he will adjust it as he needs to as they get closer to making a deal. Typical bobbullshit.
Why are you acting like the only time a team can place a player on LTIR is at the start of the season
Your plan counts on a surgery that takes 2-3 weeks to recover from magically taking 7 months and the league not asking any questions lol.
Good luck with that.
Nothing he has hinted at this year has been BS
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I would like the team to trade for a player now, during the offseason. I don't want to gamble and wait for the deadline. The gamble is we may not find a trade partner at the deadline. The gamble is the Oilers may have to enter LTIR out of necessity due to injury ruining the accrued cap space option. I outlined an option within the CBA that would help maneuver for a possible trade before the season started which would see the team remain cap compliant. Staying cap compliant before the season starts, beyond the grace amount of 10%, and maximize the LTIR on Kane's contract alone... not Nurses.
Nurse would only used as a technicality to enable a trade by staying within the cap parameters by employing the LTIR guidelines before the season starts while optimizing Kane's LTIR.
That same cap ceiling would also occur, as explained above, if you placed Kane on LTIR after the regular season starts. You can get close to capitalizing fully on Kane's LTIR ceiling if you place him on LTIR before the season starts but you must do roster gymnastics that exposes players to waivers and we've lost enough players as it stands.
It's a technicality within the CBA that can be manipulated if the LTIR was driven beyond Kane's regular cap hit which is all the LTIR the Oilers need to acquire a significant defenseman on the second pairing. It speeds up the workable time frame of a possibly trade. There very well may be a trade market advantage in doing so by the Oilers thinking out of the box and taking the path least travelled.
And yes, it is all dependant on Kane staying on the LTIR for the entirety of the regular season unless the Oilers make additional moves to become cap compliant once Kane come off of the LTIR.
If we don't take advantage of placing Kane on LTIR for potentially the entire regular season I don't think anyone should realistically believe this Oilers team can win a Stanley Cup. If they don't take advantage of the opportunity that presents itself the cup window may never open again during the McDavid and Draisaitl years. And that would be a shame.
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Hopefully Bob gets deep into the sauce and leaks something juicy.
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I don’t really think our plan is to trade for more wishful thinking
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Exciting it true, big part is “at some points, which could mean the TDL. But still interesting
Who cares. It's fairly f***ing obvious they chose to acrue cap space for a reason.
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And that's a f***ing poor decision. Look at the average age of this team. Do you really believe between now and the trade deadline the Edmonton Oilers will not be forced to utilize LTIR? That utilization will negate cap accruement. That's a big f***ing if. That's the way it is. What exactly are posters failing to comprehend here?
You still haven’t explained how the Oilers are going to convince anyone that a procedure that has a 6-12 week recovery time is going to take an entire season to recover from.
The only way it works is if the reported injury/surgery that Kane has isn’t a sports hernia. Who knows, maybe that’s the case. But the team will need to be able to prove it.
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The same way Mark Stone's lacerated spleen kept him out, a lacerated spleen is a less serious ailment than a sports hernia. You don't have to prove f*** all. You only need Kane to say, I'm still sore, I won't be ready until the playoffs start. The precedent has been set for exactly this occasion.
Stone suffered the lacerated spleen at the end of February. He didn’t miss an entire season with it. He missed 2 months. The precedent has not been set where an injury with a 2-3 month recovery lasts an entire season.
If the Oilers try and game the system they better make sure they are doing a good job of it. Because the league will gladly bring the hammer down on Edmonton when they looked the other way for league darling teams.
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Because it creates excitement today, for something that many would consider likely to happen before or at the TDL? “At some point” is super vague.
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It's a lot more complicated than "I am still sore" especially if Kane's contract is insured to any degree which it may well be as one of the 5 largest deals on the team. In that case you are actually at risk of insurance fraud, but who worries about such things?
Being sore is not a justification for LTIR. If it was teams could have players on LTIR pretty much any time they wish. The injury has to prevent the play from playing, it has to be certified by a physician and it is potentially subject to independent assessment, especially if the contract is insured. So could the Oilers get away with this. Possibly, because Kane has had other issues that might be able to justify more time off. But this one would be a massive longshot and if it backfired that would be a disaster.
You seem to feel that you have an LTIR strategy that no one else has figured out. Yet as others have posted it does not look like you actually understand the rules.
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