Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Broberg, Holloway and Ceci are Gone, Do We Add Another D Before Camp?

[Tobias Kahun]

We've gotten some decent RHD prospects still. Paul Fischer, Max Wanner, Beau Akey. But... if we had Kesselring, our D core would be set.

Ekholm Bouchard
Nurse Kesselring
Kulak Emberson

I still hate that Bjugstad trade

How would it be set?

It’s funny how you have such an issue with stecher and they have fairly similar analytic results

 

[McTonyBrar]

Was Kesselring projecting to be where you've penciled him in within 2 years, though?

Not that year no. I thought that, after our playoff run, he'd make the team as bottom pair and be top 4 this season or the next. I still wish we hadn't thrown him away for a rental

How would it be set?

It’s funny how you have such an issue with stecher and they have fairly similar analytic results

I'm not a Stecher fan. He's had years to prove he can play top 4 and I haven't seen him live up to it. Neither did other teams or they would've signed him.

Why do you have such a problem with me? It seems like whatever I say, you always get at me.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Not that year no. I thought that, after our playoff run, he'd make the team as bottom pair and be top 4 this season or the next. I still wish we hadn't thrown him away for a rental


I'm not a Stecher fan. He's had years to prove he can play top 4 and I haven't seen him live up to it. Neither did other teams or they would've signed him.

Why do you have such a problem with me? It seems like whatever I say, you always get at me.

Because you make statements and dodge questions, like laughing at stecher being in the lineup and then never answering why.

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

How would it be set?

It’s funny how you have such an issue with stecher and they have fairly similar analytic results

I think Stecher is a lot better than a lot of people here give him credit for

 

[MessierII]

Evander Kane got healthy scratched multiple times last year and people still talk about him like he's a lock for 30 goals and a beastly playoffs.

Evander Kane was never healthy scratched because outside of maybe the first 20 games he was never healthy.

 

[Fourier]

The actual number doesn't matter as long as it can be buried in the AHL, and fits under the Oilers cap.

Mostly this is true but not completely. At the deadline a $150K difference becomes over $500K. That could be significant.

 

[McShogun99]

I think Stecher is a lot better than a lot of people here give him credit for

If Stecher is the teams full time, 2nd pairing D then we can kiss winning a Cup this year goodbye. He's a fine 6/7 but that's about it.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Because you make statements and dodge questions, like laughing at stecher being in the lineup and then never answering why.

I dodge questions? What the? Are you just so centralized around me? Fine. You want to know why I don't think Stecher should be in the lineup? He has very limited hockey IQ. The biggest attribute for me when playing hockey is hockey IQ. If a player has questionable hockey sense, they won't be able to handle the role they are given.

Yakupov proved that. Pouliot proved that. Stecher also is very small and his defensive game isn't the best. Nurse with him would be a nightmare pairing.

Hockey IQ is the biggest reason why I have no faith in Stecher and I think, when it comes to drafting, it's the most important attribute to look at. I know you rely on analytics which is fine. We all look at hockey differently sometimes.

There's your answer. I hope it is sufficient

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

If Stecher is the teams full time, 2nd pairing D then we can kiss winning a Cup this year goodbye. He's a fine 6/7 but that's about it.

Who said anything about second pairing, I think hes a decent 3 pairing defenseman who could be good on the PK and we arent exactly swimming in defensemen

 

[MessierII]

If Stecher is the teams full time, 2nd pairing D then we can kiss winning a Cup this year goodbye. He's a fine 6/7 but that's about it.

The roster we start camp with will not be the roster we enter the playoffs with.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

If Stecher is the teams full time, 2nd pairing D then we can kiss winning a Cup this year goodbye. He's a fine 6/7 but that's about it.

Yeah, just like ceci was a fine #6 and we still came within a goal of the cup

I dodge questions? What the? Are you just so centralized around me? Fine. You want to know why I don't think Stecher should be in the lineup? He has very limited hockey IQ. The biggest attribute for me when playing hockey is hockey IQ. If a player has questionable hockey sense, they won't be able to handle the role they are given.

Yakupov proved that. Pouliot proved that. Stecher also is very small and his defensive game isn't the best. Nurse with him would be a nightmare pairing.

Hockey IQ is the biggest reason why I have no faith in Stecher and I think, when it comes to drafting, it's the most important attribute to look at. I know you rely on analytics which is fine. We all look at hockey differently sometimes.

There's your answer. I hope it is sufficient

Limited hockey IQ?

It sounds like you don’t really know the player

 

[McDoused]

Is this guy quietly going to put up 40 goals for only 3M?

 

[McTonyBrar]

Yeah, just like ceci was a fine #6 and we still came within a goal of the cup


Limited hockey IQ?

It sounds like you don’t really know the player

Yes limited hockey IQ. He has a lot of skill but I don't see much when it comes to hockey sense. If you don't agree, I understand. I may end up being completely wrong. But I just don't see what you see in him

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Yes limited hockey IQ. He has a lot of skill but I don't see much when it comes to hockey sense. If you don't agree, I understand. I may end up being completely wrong. But I just don't see what you see in him

You’re the first person I’ve heard of talking about stecher with limited hockey iq

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

You’re the first person I’ve heard of talking about stecher with limited hockey iq

I think we are too use to looking for offensive minded defensemen. Forgot what a good "my own end first" type of a player is. Stecher is a good option to have when you need someone to keep things steady

 

[McTonyBrar]

You’re the first person I’ve heard of talking about stecher with limited hockey iq

Okay. Well it's what I've seen with him. I don't get why you're so upset about my opinion of him. Am I not allowed to have an opinion on a player?

 

[Canovin]

Is this guy quietly going to put up 40 goals for only 3M?

10 goals for every 1M just like Hyman

 

[FlameChampion]

Is this guy quietly going to put up 40 goals for only 3M?

Scored a lot more goals from in and around - close to the net than I expected. Guess it makes sense. Hard to score 40 goals without being infront of the net unless you’re Draisaitl.

 

[McShogun99]

Yeah, just like ceci was a fine #6 and we still came within a goal of the cup


Limited hockey IQ?

It sounds like you don’t really know the player

Ceci is a way better Dman then Stecher.

 

[commie]

Evander Kane was never healthy scratched because outside of maybe the first 20 games he was never healthy.

and in the first 20 games, he was one of very few that was generating any sustained offence.

When healthy, he is still very much the unicorn player, a power forward heavy hitting force that can still pot in 25-30 goals.

 

[CornKicker]

Okay. Well it's what I've seen with him. I don't get why you're so upset about my opinion of him. Am I not allowed to have an opinion on a player?

stecher is a fire sale in his own zone, watch him in the playoffs before the oilers got him, hes a fine back up 7 d man but to play him like a top 6 is a disaster waiting to happen

 

[gordonhught]

stecher is a fire sale in his own zone, watch him in the playoffs before the oilers got him, hes a fine back up 7 d man but to play him like a top 6 is a disaster waiting to happen

Apparently some moron above does not agree with you.

 

[foshizzle]

If Stecher is the teams full time, 2nd pairing D then we can kiss winning a Cup this year goodbye. He's a fine 6/7 but that's about it.

Based on what? He had good analytics last year playing top 4 on a bad Arizona team. They were far superior than Ceci and we managed to get to the finals with him

Ceci is a way better Dman than Stecher.

No he is not

 

[McDNicks17]

Here's a random name (so I can look like a genius if a trade randomly happens ): Joey Keane.

25 year old rightie owned by Carolina. He had some solid AHL seasons while blocked by Carolina's D and then went to the KHL for some reason where he had a couple good years.

He made the AHL All-Rookie Team and All-Star team with Knoblauch in Hartford and played his first junior hockey in Dubuque after now Oiler, Kalle Larsson, brought him in.

Maybe toss a Conditional 7th rounder or something for him, sign him to a league minimum deal and see if he can play.

 

[K1984]

Scored a lot more goals from in and around - close to the net than I expected. Guess it makes sense. Hard to score 40 goals without being infront of the net unless you’re Draisaitl.

This is what has me excited about the acquisition.

The Oilers had finishing problems last year, and much of that was due to a preference for our scoring players to score from distance and off passing plays vs grime around the net. Hyman is really our only player that scored goals primarily from around the crease, but now we have another to take out the trash.