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Prospect Info: Round 1, 7th overall: Matvei Michkov, RW, SKA St. Petersburg (KHL)

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KHL starts real play September 1, let's get a grip, he has three seasons to develop, we'll see how good he is over that period.
For one thing, the KHL is not a scorer friendly league, so temper expectations of what a "good season" looks like:

2022-23 top five scorers:
Jaskin 67g 40-22 62
Tckachyov 64g 23-36 59
Radulov 62g 25-32 57
De Costa 54g 20-36 56
Tolchinksky 68g 16-40 56

Best seasons by drafted players under 25;
Nishikin (21) 3-69 - 2022-23 65g 11-44 55
Kovalenko (23) 6-171 2022-23 56g 21-33 54
Kaprizov (22) 5-135 2019-20 57g 33-29 62
Kaprizov (21) 5-135 2018-19 57g 30-21 51
Kaprizon (20) 5-135 2017-18 46g 15-25 40
Kaprizov (19) 5-135 2016-17 49g 20-22 42
Tolvanen (18) 1-30 2017-18 49g 19-17 36
Buchnevich (20) 3-75 2015-16 56g 16-21 37
 
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deadhead said:
KHL starts real play September 1, let's get a grip, he has three seasons to develop, we'll see how good he is over that period.
For one thing, the KHL is not a scorer friendly league, so temper expectations of what a "good season" looks like:

2022-23 top five scorers:
Jaskin 67g 40-22 62
Tckachyov 64g 23-36 59
Radulov 62g 25-32 57
De Costa 54g 20-36 56
Tolchinksky 68g 16-40 56

Best seasons by drafted players under 25;
Nishikin (21) 3-69 - 2022-23 65g 11-44 55
Kovalenko (23) 6-171 2022-23 56g 21-33 54
Kaprizov (22) 5-135 2019-20 57g 33-29 62
Kaprizov (21) 5-135 2018-19 57g 30-21 51
Kaprizon (20) 5-135 2017-18 46g 15-25 40
Kaprizov (19) 5-135 2016-17 49g 20-22 42
Tolvanen (18) 1-30 2017-18 49g 19-17 36
Buchnevich (20) 3-75 2015-16 56g 16-21 37
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Yeah say what you want (lets see what he does) but, Kaprizov is a f***ing specimen, Michkov is a chess master. If Kaprizov had Michkov's brain he'd be the best player in the NHL. Michkov thinks the game unhuman like. if you actually sit there and watch him you'd know what I mean. I would bet 100k that Michkov scores 100p in his first NHL season, I'm willing to meet anyone who wants to bet against me on that in vegas we can hand it over. I'll fly from Tokyo lol easy money.
 
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Yeah say what you want (lets see what he does) but, Kaprizov is a f***ing specimen, Michkov is a chess master. If Kaprizov had Michkov's brain he'd be the best player in the NHL. Michkov thinks the game unhuman like. if you actually sit there and watch him you'd know what I mean. I would bet 100k that Michkov scores 100p in his first NHL season, I'm willing to meet anyone who wants to bet against me on that in vegas we can hand it over. I'll fly from Tokyo lol easy money.
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We'll see. If he can come close to a PPG in the KHL at 18, he's something special.
If he falls short, well, it's a tough league for an 18 year old, be a little patient.
 
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We'll see. If he can come close to a PPG in the KHL at 18, he's something special.
If he falls short, well, it's a tough league for an 18 year old, be a little patient.
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Not be rude, but do you have any idea of how the KHL works or how his previous season stands with other top prospects that came before him? Do you have any idea how KHL team's deploy players or anything? Better yet, be honest, how much have you watched him play?

deadhead said:
We'll see. If he can come close to a PPG in the KHL at 18, he's something special.
If he falls short, well, it's a tough league for an 18 year old, be a little patient.
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If you couldn't tell, I am joking.
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I'm just like bro no one realizes how great this kid is, because I don't think a lot of people stay up and watch him play in the KHL, IM SENSITIVE LOL.
 
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Not be rude, but do you have any idea of how the KHL works or how his previous season stands with other top prospects that came before him? Do you have any idea how KHL team's deploy players or anything? Better yet, be honest, how much have you watched him play?
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I just reviewed the last 8 years of KHL scoring, there are few top prospects among the leaders (probably b/c few excel at 18-19, and come over when they're NHL ready around 20, so someone as talented as Michkov playing 3 years in the KHL is rare). The KHL is a veteran dominated league, even more than the SHL and much more than the AHL (which is a developmental league that limits how many veterans can play).

In NA, a player as talented as Michkov would probably play one more season in the CHL and then the NHL at 19. Might even jump directly to the NHL, but would probably struggle for a year or two (see Hughes, etc).

I'm skeptical that any poster labelled "GodKingMichkov" is an objective observer. :D

Though I agree that if Michkov is for real, he should be a threat for 100 points his first NHL season, at 21-22 years old, with 3 years of experience playing against men, albeit less talented men than the NHL (Lehtera is an object lesson, a below replacement level NHL player, from age 32-34, 137g 34-79 113 in the KHL, then at 35, 57g 11-46 57 in Liiga), he'll have time to fill out and be ready for the rigors of a NHL season (82 games plus hopefully the playoffs).
 
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I just reviewed the last 8 years of KHL scoring, there are few top prospects among the leaders (probably b/c few excel at 18-19, and come over when they're NHL ready around 20, so someone as talented as Michkov playing 3 years in the KHL is rare). The KHL is a veteran dominated league, even more than the SHL and much more than the AHL (which is a developmental league that limits how many veterans can play).

In NA, a player as talented as Michkov would probably play one more season in the CHL and then the NHL at 19. Might even jump directly to the NHL, but would probably struggle for a year or two (see Hughes, etc).

I'm skeptical that any poster labelled "GodKingMichkov" is an objective observer. :D

Though I agree that if Michkov is for real, he should be a threat for 100 points his first NHL season, at 21-22 years old, with 3 years of experience playing against men, albeit less talented men than the NHL (Lehtera is an object lesson, a below replacement level NHL player, from age 32-34, 137g 34-79 113 in the KHL, then at 35, 57g 11-46 57 in Liiga), he'll have time to fill out and be ready for the rigors of a NHL season (82 games plus hopefully the playoffs).
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KHL teams are also notorious for giving ice time based on seniority and not always on merit, but the good news is SKA loaned a player out to Sochi earlier today so I imagine theyre trying to make room for Michkov and Demidov. I think they had Michkov as the 13th forward to see where Demidov could fit in if he wasnt on a line with Matvei and he had some really solid shifts yesterday and the day before. They have games in back to back days starting tomorrow so hopefully Michkov gets some more minutes. Once the season opens I feel like Demidov gets carried as the 13th forward, hes been too good to loan out or send down and Michkov has been even better so far
 
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Three years in the KHL and Michkov will be as NHL ready as you can get - his biggest problem will be adjusting to faster players on smaller ice, so if he struggles initially, there will be no reason to panic - shouldn't take more than a couple months to get a feel for NHL hockey.

However, I think Sochi plays on a NHL size rink.

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Three years in the KHL and Michkov will be as NHL ready as you can get - his biggest problem will be adjusting to faster players on smaller ice, so if he struggles initially, there will be no reason to panic - shouldn't take more than a couple months to get a feel for NHL hockey.

However, I think Sochi plays on a NHL size rink.

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SKA play on 26x60 (NHL size) as well... they switched in 2020-21. So there will be no smaller ice adjustment really...

Every single KHL home game he has ever played has been on NHL sized ice actually.
 
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