Speculation: Roster/Trade Discussion Thread - WTF is up with Brett Howden?

[SA16]

He would be worth it. Bunting knows Sullivan. I won't be shocked if it happens. They are worse options. Bunting is something needed. Rangers need tenacious players with speed thst have skill. Rangers need to improve their forechecking ability. Id rather have Bunting over Taylor Raddysh who freaking sucks

Bunting is 30 and beginning his decline. Raddysh is still in his 20ed. He could have untapped potential like his brother just showed.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Bunting is 30 and beginning his decline. Raddysh is still in his 20ed. He could have untapped potential like his brother just showed.

Raddysh is 28. Youre making it sound he is 25 lol. Bunting has more of an impact in games than Raddysh does.

 

[SA16]

Raddysh is 28. Youre making it sound he is 25 lol. Bunting has more of an impact in games than Raddysh does.

Darren Raddysh just had his breakout season at age 29-30 and they have the same genes. Why can't Taylor do the same? Late bloomers.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Darren Raddysh just had his breakout season at age 29-30 and they have the same genes. Why can't Taylor do the same? Late bloomers.

Darren Raddysh is not a late bloomer. One hit wonder

 

[RangersFan1994]

Rangers should offersheet or trade for Benson and Bourque

 

[mrmovies779]

Rangers should offersheet or trade for Benson and Bourque

Why would either team give up either player?

 

[RangersFan1994]

Why would either team give up either player?

Why did the Oilers give up on Broberg and Holloway. Teams do stupid stuff sometimes

 

[RangersFan1994]

Would anyone be upset if Mario Ferraro becomes a Ranger? Would upgrade the LD spot. Only 28

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Would anyone be upset if Mario Ferraro becomes a Ranger? Would upgrade the LD spot. Only 28

I would.

 

[bobbop]

Schneider to Winnipeg seems to be perfect for everyone.

The Rangers haven't started any contract talks with him.

The Jets have trouble finding players interested in Winnipeg. They can use another D. Schneider would be re-sign there. Long term.

Schneider for the eighth pick overall as the base. They can add pieces from each side.

The Rangers take Wyatt Cullen with the selection.

8th for Schneider is a complete non starter.

Fantasyland

 

[mrmovies779]

Would anyone be upset if Mario Ferraro becomes a Ranger? Would upgrade the LD spot. Only 28

He's pretty terrible.I wouldn't touch him.

 

[RangersFan1994]

 

[UnSandvich]

Would anyone be upset if Mario Ferraro becomes a Ranger? Would upgrade the LD spot. Only 28

There's a good chance Ferraro wouldn't upgrade an empty roster slot, let alone one where someone's already playing

 

[eco's bones]

Darren Raddysh is not a late bloomer. One hit wonder

IMO he's not a one hit wonder. He moved up to the first unit power play this year in Tampa because Hedman was out. One can say the numbers he produced last year are not likely to be replicated again and probably be right. But Darren Raddysh is still a fairly solid top 4 defender who put up 30+ points in each of his two previous seasons. So he's a good two way defenseman.

Problem is---signing him as a free agent off last season it's going to be a bidding war and he's going to make a lot. But still he's easily one of the best say 3 players in free agency at least right now. Money aside I'd put him way ahead of Bunting. He wouldn't put up the same points for sure like last year but he'd make our defense a lot better. He would IMO be at least as good an addition as Gavrikov last year.

The Rangers also are short of D and this has been an ongoing discussion here. We have 10 guys signed or controlled through restricted free agency going into next year going between both the Rangers and Hartford. We're going to need at minimum at least 13. 90% of those posting here want to dump Schneider and then we got guys like Iorio and Vaakanainen who aren't very good. Dorrington who is raw and Morrow trying to find his way. It's a f***ed up situation as far as D but more people here seem worried more about the forwards. Somebody's got to break pucks out of our own zone though before we can talk about our forecheck.

 

[Hodes42]

Darren Raddysh just had his breakout season at age 29-30 and they have the same genes. Why can't Taylor do the same? Late bloomers.

Rangers had Brian Sakic in the system back in the day. Same genes as Joe.

 

[Bruner4329]

Raddysh is 28. Youre making it sound he is 25 lol. Bunting has more of an impact in games than Raddysh does.

And you are making it sound like 28 is old. A ton of players have their more productive years between 26-31.

 

[McRanger92]

I’d like to hear from someone who has seen Ferraro actually play. Is he a product of a poor environment or a contributor?

 

[xsniper11x]

Anyone else not seeing this thread on the main page? Even find/ctrl F doesn’t do it. I can only access via the link on the old locked thread.

 

[TGWL]

Would anyone be upset if Mario Ferraro becomes a Ranger? Would upgrade the LD spot. Only 28

If you want another Lindgren who can't move the puck out of the zone while being given a ton more minutes than he should get, then you won't be upset.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Bourque might be a cap casualty in Dallas if the Stars are hell bent on reupping Robertson.

Not saying offersheet him but a trade could likely be worked out if that's the direction the Rangers want to go.

 

[kovazub94]

IMO he's not a one hit wonder. He moved up to the first unit power play this year in Tampa because Hedman was out. One can say the numbers he produced last year are not likely to be replicated again and probably be right. But Darren Raddysh is still a fairly solid top 4 defender who put up 30+ points in each of his two previous seasons. So he's a good two way defenseman.

Problem is---signing him as a free agent off last season it's going to be a bidding war and he's going to make a lot. But still he's easily one of the best say 3 players in free agency at least right now. Money aside I'd put him way ahead of Bunting. He wouldn't put up the same points for sure like last year but he'd make our defense a lot better. He would IMO be at least as good an addition as Gavrikov last year.

The Rangers also are short of D and this has been an ongoing discussion here. We have 10 guys signed or controlled through restricted free agency going into next year going between both the Rangers and Hartford. We're going to need at minimum at least 13. 90% of those posting here want to dump Schneider and then we got guys like Iorio and Vaakanainen who aren't very good. Dorrington who is raw and Morrow trying to find his way. It's a f***ed up situation as far as D but more people here seem worried more about the forwards. Somebody's got to break pucks out of our own zone though before we can talk about our forecheck.

Two things: Morrow has to go through waivers now to be sent down so I’m pretty sure he will be with the varsity, and Raddysh’s lesson (and somewhat Howden’s too) is to not give up on a still pretty young asset, especially on D.

Then, again we don’t know what the Rangers will do in the draft but it’s more likely that it will be a defenseman who will need just one year before we talk about him being in the lineup in ‘27-‘28. Fortescue too (if not sooner).

The point is I don’t think the Rangers should add more than one mid- or long-term deal on defense (the other could be picked from scraps cheaply). I also don’t want it to be Raddysh, not because I doubt that he performs but rather because I don’t want to pay premium for the PP skillset that won’t be needed here. Andersson on 4-year deal? Maybe.

 

[NYR Viper]

Don't want Raddysh. We'd be paying for his PP1 production and getting PP2 production from him at best. He's already 30 and it will probably take a 7-year deal to sign him. No thanks. We shouldn't be signing any older players to long term deals.

McMann is about to turn 30. 5 years is probably what it will take. I'd be happier about paying him than Raddysh. Arvidsson would be a good pickup short term.

I don't want McMann and Arvidsson playing ahead of Cuylle, and I don't really want Kasper toiling away on the 3rd line, or Laba on the 4th line. We complain all the time about the young guys being pushed down the lineup by vets, and here you're doing it again. Are we trying to win a cup next year or build a team that can win a cup down the road? If it's the latter, and it should be, then we need to put our young players in positions to succeed.

So what about a line up of:

Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Perrault
McMann-Miller-Cuylle
Kasper-Laba-Arvidsson
Kartye-________-Chmelar
Rempe
Edstrom

At some point it’s semantics in terms of where guys play at 5v5 and neither McMann or Arvidsson would be PP1 guys.

In my scenario, the Rangers would have 3 1st’s this year and two already in 2027 on top of already adding Musty and Greentree along with Kasper who is very young. That’s a ‘retool’ and if a young player progresses then you have the opportunity to trade someone for either more futures or in a package for an upgrade.

I truly doubt the Rangers are going in to next season with Perrault, Lafreniere, Cuylle, Kartye, Greentree and another young player on the wing. I could be wrong, but that seems like a whole lot of ‘prayers’ especially given their cap space.

Now you could convince me that rather than McMann, the Rangers go for someone like Schwartz along with Arvidsson. Both guys likely get two year deals with possibly limited NTC’s and could play anywhere in the top-9 until a young player proves ready.

 

[Waltuh]

Bourque might be a cap casualty in Dallas if the Stars are hell bent on reupping Robertson.

Not saying offersheet him but a trade could likely be worked out if that's the direction the Rangers want to go.

Is he worth being excited about? Seems mid

 

[Waltuh]

Anyone else not seeing this thread on the main page? Even find/ctrl F doesn’t do it. I can only access via the link on the old locked thread.

Do you have the thread starter on ignore

 

[bernmeister]

Let's just start with this.

Can you give me one roster where you don't put 4th liners on the 1st line?

thanks for yr patience, have been busy.

bold: Prob yes, but it would be counterproductive to idea of fastest route to dynamic team w/young core.

In the immediate last stab at it, I went to get max # of earlier 1st rounders, and specified let's once and for all, catch up on fixing our D for next decade or so.
1st line = Fs.
we would be upgrading that next yr.

Now, why can't we have better Fs now?
Answer: we need to move vets, and that is overriding.
When you do that, there is no jtm, zib, etc etc
And in the big picture that is worth it, b'c all vets are a declining asset, appreciably so from a certain pt on.

We stupidly did rentals and coupla other winners [e.g., Nemeth].
That depleted youth.
That means ONLY 2 CHOICES
Slowly replace vets w/youth over time, gradually, in piecemeal.
OR
Do it wholesale, 1 or 2 shots.

Also, I do not agree that players like Carrick, Brodz, and coupla others who played well in higher lines were chump change and would not CONTINUE to play well in higher lines if given more responsibilities -- key would be if there is chemistry.

Also finally, in the immediate last blueprint I put out, we got Horcoff and Hage, both pivots. I did not pencil them into starting lineup, but those are bluer blue chips, and likely first line material once they take hold.
So starting a season w/a 1C gap is a fair negative criticism, but requires context of the full, big picture. They would only be a gap until Hage/Horcoff etc -- the calvary -- arrives.