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not sure about that, with Dahlin playing 'limited minutes'
Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)
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he will likely have 50 this season
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he was just talking about now and the TDL. nobody said that they are not replacing guys in the off season.
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regulars who need to be replaced urgently: Joker, VO
depth guys: Clague, Bryson (they should end the experiment with undersized d men)
in that regard Joker also plays like an undersized D, too weak to push people around in front of the net, nobody cares if one of those 3 finishes a check.
KO will probably hang em up, his legs are feeling the season
depth guys: Clague, Bryson (they should end the experiment with undersized d men)
in that regard Joker also plays like an undersized D, too weak to push people around in front of the net, nobody cares if one of those 3 finishes a check.
KO will probably hang em up, his legs are feeling the season
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Could see KO taking one year deals in a Craig Anderson role as an extra forward. Can be rotated in games and rested when he needs It while mentoring the young team. Given his injury history and his skating though might not be a bad idea to call It quits.
Agree on everything you say. VO does not fit into our rush attack style offense. There’s definitely teams that could use his abilities and be able to utilize him in a more efficient way. Should be able to get a decent asset back for him. Would like a defense prospect.
The Joker experiment needs to end. He has a negative impact on the team when he is out there. Not even worth carrying as an extra d, especially at his cap hit.
I think It would make sense to move Mitts as well. Really like where his game is at now and would have no problem keeping him around a bit longer but I think it’s inevitable that he gets pushed out. Why not try to get a decent return on him now?
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Don't let facts derail a perfectly good agenda.
Man they have to get 71 out of the lineup ASAP. He brings nothing. Skinners PPG was a gift after a terrible VO turnover on the PP.
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I was thinking he could be the one going out for Greenway.
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That’s the only change I expect up front for next season. 71 gets dealt for a pick or an equivalent defenseman.
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I agree that is the most likely. However, it does go against them saying they will play the players that give them the best chance of winning. Hino has been good. Better than VO.
Should be VO or KO, but if not it should be JJP before Hino based on play. We all know it has never been about play.
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I am in agreement KO is bad, especially lately, but taking into account everything we know, he is extremely well liked in the locker room and a leader. Additionally he is the captain. He could be on any of the other 31 teams in the league and he would not be benched in this situation. I don't fault the coaching staff for not benching him.
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JJ has been getting quality looks and has been a bit unlucky. But he is the future and will likely be here the next time they make a run to the playoffs. The other two will likely not be here. If the point of the season was developing players then it is now the final exam time.
I agree with a caveat. I think he’s saying that while a deal for someone like Chychrun wasn’t off the table for this organization (Adams’ presser basically spoke to that), they were only looking for guys with term. Not wasting assets on pending UFA’s in order to push for a spot. They want their core group to develop into the ones who will get them there. That’s Thompson/Cozens/Quinn/Krebs/Tuch/ Peterka/ Dahlin/Power/Samuelsson, so half of your roster for hopefully the next 5-7yrs is here. And a lot of that is playing in the top half of your roster. They need this group to lead them and they can only do that through these experiences.
Also, listening to Adams in his post deadline press conference I have a few thoughts trying to read the tea leaves.
1) he’s looking for the core group to lead them to the promised land. Right now that is Thompson, Cozens, Krebs, Quinn, Peterka, Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, Tuch(though injured) & UPL and to a lesser extent Skinner and now maybe Greenway.
2) while this is a good portion of the team, particularly a majority of the forward group, I think Adams is right. The group above should be 8 out of the 13 forwards on the roster next year. Hypothetically they bring back Jost & Girgensons. That’s 10-13.
3) The way Adams spoke about Kulich & Savoie I’m assuming they’ll get every chance to make the team next season. I see Kulich as a near certainty, and with Savoie only being able to go back to the WHL, I think they’ll see it as more beneficial to his development to be in Buffalo in a middle-6 role.
4) I think they’ll be looking to add a #4 defenseman. Whether that’s a LHD who can run the 3rd pair, and then play a lot of special teams, or a RHD who can bump Jokhiharju & Lybushkin down or out, I’m not sure. But I see them adding a quality defenseman to the group.
5) he seemed non-commital about the goaltenders, except for Anderson. But he, and we know Anderson doesn’t have much time left. UPL is not ready (and may never be) to take the lead role. Comrie, while he gave praise for coming back from his injury, has been mediocre.
6. His talk about Devon Levi, and how lightly he treaded on the subject, tells me they don’t want to “spook” Levi so to speak, want him to sign, and then will look into finding a true #1. My money would be on Demko, but I could also see a free agent like Jarry, Andersen, or Raanta as a possibility.
Overall I like what he had to say, where the organization is headed. And how they’re approaching the teams development.
They’re ahead of the curve, so we’re excited. And we’re also impatient. It’s his job not to dive into those emotions and move those pieces right now.
1) he’s looking for the core group to lead them to the promised land. Right now that is Thompson, Cozens, Krebs, Quinn, Peterka, Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, Tuch(though injured) & UPL and to a lesser extent Skinner and now maybe Greenway.
2) while this is a good portion of the team, particularly a majority of the forward group, I think Adams is right. The group above should be 8 out of the 13 forwards on the roster next year. Hypothetically they bring back Jost & Girgensons. That’s 10-13.
3) The way Adams spoke about Kulich & Savoie I’m assuming they’ll get every chance to make the team next season. I see Kulich as a near certainty, and with Savoie only being able to go back to the WHL, I think they’ll see it as more beneficial to his development to be in Buffalo in a middle-6 role.
4) I think they’ll be looking to add a #4 defenseman. Whether that’s a LHD who can run the 3rd pair, and then play a lot of special teams, or a RHD who can bump Jokhiharju & Lybushkin down or out, I’m not sure. But I see them adding a quality defenseman to the group.
5) he seemed non-commital about the goaltenders, except for Anderson. But he, and we know Anderson doesn’t have much time left. UPL is not ready (and may never be) to take the lead role. Comrie, while he gave praise for coming back from his injury, has been mediocre.
6. His talk about Devon Levi, and how lightly he treaded on the subject, tells me they don’t want to “spook” Levi so to speak, want him to sign, and then will look into finding a true #1. My money would be on Demko, but I could also see a free agent like Jarry, Andersen, or Raanta as a possibility.
Overall I like what he had to say, where the organization is headed. And how they’re approaching the teams development.
They’re ahead of the curve, so we’re excited. And we’re also impatient. It’s his job not to dive into those emotions and move those pieces right now.
I had questions about where Jost fits. If they could get him for term but a little less than his QO, that would be great.
I no longer have questions.
I no longer have questions.
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I think they have a tangible “wants to be here” advantage with Jost. He’s moved twice. And he’s seen what can happen when you end up in a bad situation…and he knows this is a good one. He gets ice time and is told to be himself out there.
He’s outpacing any production he’s had in the league, including Colorado. And that’s coming in cold to the system and not knowing his teammates.
There has to be at least a little “I don’t want to go through that again” in his thought process.
I think Jost-Gus make sense for their roll on that zone flipping line they have. I am worried about Okposo and the battle with father time as his legs have gotten heavier as the season has progressed.
I'm curious to see if they "Krebs" one of those two next season if one of them makes it out of camp. It may not be the popular look to put a kid between a couple of gnarled, cycle guys, but it certainly did wonders for Krebs' game to be focused on that style of game as we see him making mostly smart puck decisions that aren't creating high danger chances against now. I've had that gnawing at the back of my head watching Savoie for a month now - him in between Gus and Okposo/Okposo replacement (Jost?) in a cycle trio.
The one type I'd like to see for sure is a LD who can soak PK minutes while providing some stoutness to net front denial. They might view Stillman as that guy, though he too gets caught looking from what I've seen of him in Vancouver. That is a coaching task but if they could get a better PKing defenseman who they can trust, they might be able to draw down Dahlin's PK time (without him doing it himself by being in the box) so he's fresher for offensive situations and transitioning the puck.
He gets giddy talking about Levi. I hope Devon is lights out as a netminder but if he falters or needs more time, I worry at Adams' ability to be impartial there. Adams is clearly smitten with the possibility of what Levi might be.
It is hard sometimes to stay patient. I'm glad they acknowledge their shortcomings and are reportedly in on trying to make those areas stronger.
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Definitely a matter of having had his career flash before his eyes and turning that into working hard. And now after half a season, there doesn't seem to be any regression toward not playing the same way night after night. I wondered if it would carry through, if moving around on lines would see him change what he's been doing and it hasn't. I'm not saying throw term and more money at him, but I wouldn't mind if he's back in a depth role on a reasonable deal because he does play that same way regardless of who his linemates have been.
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I was actually considering the possibility of Gus/Krebs remaining together and replacing Okposo with Greenway. From the posts I've seen, part of Greenways issues this season has been getting him going so to speak. Well that energy line worked to get Krebs going, perhaps it works to get Greenway going now. Greenway also played the bulk of last season as a RW so he can play both sides effectively given how good he was last year.
In the near-term, I wonder at Greenway's shoulder and if his conditioning is going to be cause of any issue but I would like to see his defensive impacts further up the lineup with either Cozens or Thompson.
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I don't see a lot of upside in Jost, but in his defense, the PK is so abysmally coached, it's hard to tell whether he'd be a staple there or could improve that unit. Overall, team FO% has been trending better, but this is an area where I want that fourth line center to be better than average.
I wouldn't go more than a year with him, with an eye on an upgrade. He's been great, but I think the Sabres can do better.
I wouldn't go more than a year with him, with an eye on an upgrade. He's been great, but I think the Sabres can do better.
I see no major additions in the FW group over the summer. I expect they'll run with 13 FWs and cycle in Kulich or other Rochester guys on a regular basis. Savoie is too unpredictable of a situation, but would seem like one extra body too many and not play enough given the chance to play Rochester guys. I lean towards him staying in the WHL. Olofsson probably sticks around until the TDL also, at which point Kulich/Rosen/Rousek stay up.
Skinner - Thompson - Tuch
Mittelstadt - Cozens - Peterka
Quinn - Krebs - Greenway
Girgensons - Jost - Olofsson/rotation of AHL guys
That better 3rd pair LHD I've been wanting, is now Stillman unfortunately. He'll be a placeholder for Johnson, and maybe flipped at the TDL or just waived. I hope you're right about a #4 Dman. I assume you are given KA's involvement with Chychrun talks. I hope that scenario ends up like -
Samuelsson - Dahlin
Power - new guy
Stillman - Jokiharju (Johnson takes over by the TDL)
Bryson - Lyubushkin
They probably carry eight Dmen. I don't expect any changes in goal, with UPL/Comrie splitting duties. I don't mind getting a legit starter somehow, but it won't be a top-notch guy with a heavy trade price tag. I don't see KA doing that knowing Levi is his long-term solution. So that amounts to AHL guys getting some time up, and one Dman I hope and expect KA to add. The big difference is going to have to be from players getting better, quickly. The bigger roster moves won't come until the TDL or summer of 2024, with long-term replacements of Olofsson, Bryson, Lyubushkin, maybe Jokiharju, Comrie, and maybe even UPL.
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