Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

[TheBarnIsElectric]

I've been thinking of trading oloffson for a while, like many of us have for the obvious reasons. But...

There is something to be said for having a guy with his shot on your third line. We think of him as a PP specialist and a liability at 5v5, but 10 of his 13 goals this year have come at even strength. That's not to say he's good 5v5, but he's dangerous anytime he gets chances to shoot regardless of situation.

Sure we have other scoring wingers with good shots in the system (Kulich, Rosen to name a couple), but none of these guys has a shot like Vic's. Sorry, they just don't.

I think if we had really solid two way players to play with him on the 3rd line, he would not be a bad guy to keep around long term, especially considering that our top two lines are 5v5 monsters, and what he can bring to the PP.

I personally think it's foolish not to have him opposite Tage on PP1. If they want to try to take away Tage, sure Dylan will get some goals on the other side, but if you have oloffson over there getting consistent time and space to walk in and shoot... I want that.

 

[StrompTroller]

I've been thinking of trading oloffson for a while, like many of us have for the obvious reasons. But...

There is something to be said for having a guy with his shot on your third line. We think of him as a PP specialist and a liability at 5v5, but 10 of his 13 goals this year have come at even strength. That's not to say he's good 5v5, but he's dangerous anytime he gets chances to shoot regardless of situation.

Sure we have other scoring wingers with good shots in the system (Kulich, Rosen to name a couple), but none of these guys has a shot like Vic's. Sorry, they just don't.

I think if we had really solid two way players to play with him on the 3rd line, he would not be a bad guy to keep around long term, especially considering that our top two lines are 5v5 monsters, and what he can bring to the PP.

I personally think it's foolish not to have him opposite Tage on PP1. If they want to try to take away Tage, sure Dylan will get some goals on the other side, but if you have oloffson over there getting consistent time and space to walk in and shoot... I want that.

Many of those ES goals are empty netters no? That number may not look so great without them.
I also think quinn's shot can replace vic's on either unit you decide to place him long term. His shot clearly in't as good but is definitely built for power play usage.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

I've been thinking of trading oloffson for a while, like many of us have for the obvious reasons. But...

There is something to be said for having a guy with his shot on your third line. We think of him as a PP specialist and a liability at 5v5, but 10 of his 13 goals this year have come at even strength. That's not to say he's good 5v5, but he's dangerous anytime he gets chances to shoot regardless of situation.

Sure we have other scoring wingers with good shots in the system (Kulich, Rosen to name a couple), but none of these guys has a shot like Vic's. Sorry, they just don't.

I think if we had really solid two way players to play with him on the 3rd line, he would not be a bad guy to keep around long term, especially considering that our top two lines are 5v5 monsters, and what he can bring to the PP.

I personally think it's foolish not to have him opposite Tage on PP1. If they want to try to take away Tage, sure Dylan will get some goals on the other side, but if you have oloffson over there getting consistent time and space to walk in and shoot... I want that.

3 of his even strength goals are empty netters so those can be pulled out of that 10.

As for his PP usage, Buffalo has the 2nd best PP in the league right now at 29.2%. There's really no reason to tinker with something that has clearly been working so far. Maybe if teams start focusing in on Tage more they make some changes, but even when they do he's still beating them.

 

[Jim Bob]

Sure he is -- out of 6 defenseman, he has the 3rd highest TOI/game. Unless you're going to call any old defenseman "top pairing" if they play even strength with a star, which isn't how it works.

Would you call Ryan Lindgren a top pairing D because he plays on the "top pair" with Fox? Of course not. He's a middle pairing guy who is paired with a star.

If you cannot see how much better Dahlin plays with Samuelsson than without him, I do not know what to tell you.

And Lindgren is a top pairing guy as long as he is the guy that pairs well with Fox.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

If you cannot see how much better Dahlin plays with Samuelsson than without him, I do not know what to tell you.

And Lindgren is a top pairing guy as long as he is the guy that pairs well with Fox.

Samuelsson is our modern day Beukeboom. Dahlin will sing his praises during his HHOF speech 20yrs from now

 

[Chainshot]

Assuming the first one out will be... ___________?

I would think Asplund for how he's worked in and out of the lineup thus far.

We know the dog pile answer is for most.

 

[DatDude44]

I love watching this team play man. Easily the most entertaining team in hockey to watch imo.... and i'm a blues fan.....


Question for you guys, obviously depth on D is wee bit of concern in terms of playoffs this year and probably for the next 2-3....

I was wondering what Sabres fans are thinking the next big move will be and when.... Are you guys content staying with whatcha got for this year and just letting the guys continue to gel and build together? Or do you guys think a veteran D or Fwd added to the mix would help? Obviously you guys have an embarassement of riches when it comes to A/B level prospects and draft picks right now......

If you guys were interested in immediate help (that could also be around longer term and provide veteran leadership) would Colton Parayko and or Ivan Barbashev tickle your guys fancy? Parayko gets a bad rap on here from people that expected him to become the next chris pronger or be an immediate and easy alex pietrangelo replacement and he just isn't that. But he is an absolute mutant at 6'5 and skates/gallops like the wind, he's a stud defensively(especially in important games) and his skating allows him to recover from his or others mistakes extremely often. Think of it as adding a right handed samuelsson with a smidge less puck skill but loads of more experience.

I figured

Dahlin-Sammy
Power-Parayko

would be a ridiculous top 4 D core for the next however many seasons and allows you to put joker into a 5-6 slot which probably makes that pairing one if not the best 3rd pair in the league and the trickle down effect with bryson/pilut-joker and lyubushkin gives you guys a nice 8 man unit that you'll be able to rotate in and out of the bottom pair. Or allows you flexibility this offseason to trade joker somewhere where he'll get top 4 opportunity(or maybe he's in the paryako deal lol) that can clear some cap for you guys. I personally don't see how joker fits long term with you guys just given composition. I figure a veteran cup winning D that can mentor power etc.... would be exactly what you'd need.

Would love to know sabres fans thoughts on this type of acquisition and what you guys would be willing to part with

Also, figure Barbashev is an Adams type of guy who could fit into your bottom 6 as well and provide speed, energy, physicality with a surprisingly nice shot(60 pts last year, tho it's an outlier, hes ideally a 3rd line LW that can play C if needed)


I also think Toronto fans and media would absolutely lose their minds if you guys acquired Parayko lmaooo

 

[Ace]

Assuming the first one out will be... ___________?

I would think Asplund for how he's worked in and out of the lineup thus far.

We know the dog pile answer is for most.

Hinostroza being healthy isn’t even close to a reason to take Asplund out.

Hinostroza being healthy isn’t a reason to take anyone out

Poor play is a reason…and that ain’t Asplund. Sorry for so many that it ain’t Krebs either. Know how bad they want it.

 

[Fly Boy]

I love watching this team play man. Easily the most entertaining team in hockey to watch imo.... and i'm a blues fan.....


Question for you guys, obviously depth on D is wee bit of concern in terms of playoffs this year and probably for the next 2-3....

I was wondering what Sabres fans are thinking the next big move will be and when.... Are you guys content staying with whatcha got for this year and just letting the guys continue to gel and build together? Or do you guys think a veteran D or Fwd added to the mix would help? Obviously you guys have an embarassement of riches when it comes to A/B level prospects and draft picks right now......

If you guys were interested in immediate help (that could also be around longer term and provide veteran leadership) would Colton Parayko and or Ivan Barbashev tickle your guys fancy? Parayko gets a bad rap on here from people that expected him to become the next chris pronger or be an immediate and easy alex pietrangelo replacement and he just isn't that. But he is an absolute mutant at 6'5 and skates/gallops like the wind, he's a stud defensively(especially in important games) and his skating allows him to recover from his or others mistakes extremely often. Think of it as adding a right handed samuelsson with a smidge less puck skill but loads of more experience.

I figured

Dahlin-Sammy
Power-Parayko

would be a ridiculous top 4 D core for the next however many seasons and allows you to put joker into a 5-6 slot which probably makes that pairing one if not the best 3rd pair in the league and the trickle down effect with bryson/pilut-joker and lyubushkin gives you guys a nice 8 man unit that you'll be able to rotate in and out of the bottom pair. Or allows you flexibility this offseason to trade joker somewhere where he'll get top 4 opportunity(or maybe he's in the paryako deal lol) that can clear some cap for you guys. I personally don't see how joker fits long term with you guys just given composition. I figure a veteran cup winning D that can mentor power etc.... would be exactly what you'd need.

Would love to know sabres fans thoughts on this type of acquisition and what you guys would be willing to part with

Also, figure Barbashev is an Adams type of guy who could fit into your bottom 6 as well and provide speed, energy, physicality with a surprisingly nice shot(60 pts last year, tho it's an outlier, hes ideally a 3rd line LW that can play C if needed)

Don't know what to think about Parayko at this point in time. Obviously he is a good player. Have to believe that Joker is probably going the other way in that deal however, or at the very least a separate one later.

Barbashev is someone I would absolutely love for Adams to go after. But in FA. No real interest in spending assets on him right now, or at least not until closer to the deadline when we have a better idea where the team is at in the standings.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

If you cannot see how much better Dahlin plays with Samuelsson than without him, I do not know what to tell you.

And Lindgren is a top pairing guy as long as he is the guy that pairs well with Fox.

Teams don't have 4 top pairing guys -- do you realize that the word "pair" implies two?

Owen Power will never be a top pairing defenseman because he won't be paired with Dahlin -- intersting to know! In 5 years you'll sound like a moron saying that he's a second pairing defenseman even though he has the most TOI on the whole team.

If Power becomes a topp pairing Dman, does that push Samuelsson back to being second pairing? This line of logic is silly.

If you cannot see how much better Dahlin plays with Samuelsson than without him, I do not know what to tell you.

And Lindgren is a top pairing guy as long as he is the guy that pairs well with Fox.

Did I say Dalin didn't play better with Samuelsson?

 

[Chainshot]

I love watching this team play man. Easily the most entertaining team in hockey to watch imo.... and i'm a blues fan.....


Question for you guys, obviously depth on D is wee bit of concern in terms of playoffs this year and probably for the next 2-3....

I was wondering what Sabres fans are thinking the next big move will be and when.... Are you guys content staying with whatcha got for this year and just letting the guys continue to gel and build together? Or do you guys think a veteran D or Fwd added to the mix would help? Obviously you guys have an embarassement of riches when it comes to A/B level prospects and draft picks right now......

If you guys were interested in immediate help (that could also be around longer term and provide veteran leadership) would Colton Parayko and or Ivan Barbashev tickle your guys fancy? Parayko gets a bad rap on here from people that expected him to become the next chris pronger or be an immediate and easy alex pietrangelo replacement and he just isn't that. But he is an absolute mutant at 6'5 and skates/gallops like the wind, he's a stud defensively(especially in important games) and his skating allows him to recover from his or others mistakes extremely often. Think of it as adding a right handed samuelsson with a smidge less puck skill but loads of more experience.

I figured

Dahlin-Sammy
Power-Parayko

would be a ridiculous top 4 D core for the next however many seasons and allows you to put joker into a 5-6 slot which probably makes that pairing one if not the best 3rd pair in the league and the trickle down effect with bryson/pilut-joker and lyubushkin gives you guys a nice 8 man unit that you'll be able to rotate in and out of the bottom pair. Or allows you flexibility this offseason to trade joker somewhere where he'll get top 4 opportunity(or maybe he's in the paryako deal lol) that can clear some cap for you guys. I personally don't see how joker fits long term with you guys just given composition. I figure a veteran cup winning D that can mentor power etc.... would be exactly what you'd need.

Would love to know sabres fans thoughts on this type of acquisition and what you guys would be willing to part with

Also, figure Barbashev is an Adams type of guy who could fit into your bottom 6 as well and provide speed, energy, physicality with a surprisingly nice shot(60 pts last year, tho it's an outlier, hes ideally a 3rd line LW that can play C if needed)

Breaking them down into separate bins -

Parayko would be really interesting as a possible option to solve the RHD part of things for the non-Dahlin 2nd pairing. That said, he's got a full NTC that he's in the first season of and from what I can tell of a deal that takes him well out into his mid-30's. Adding to that, he has no ties to WNY or the Sabres outside of being teammates with two guys who left during the worse times in O'Reilly and Scandella. If the Blues wanted to move him and the bigger if of Parayko being willing to go to Buffalo, yeah, that would be an interesting option. The fit might be there, though the risk of his deal (the amount of time with the NTC and his age in particular) seems like a mitigating circumstance, even if he was interested in making it happen.

As for Barbashev... I like the energy. I'm not sure I'm convinced he's a good defensive forward though from some of the fancy stuff though I do not pretend to be good at interpreting those. NST has him getting smoked at scoring chances for/against among Blues' forwards last year and thus far this year. That's troublesome since Buffalo is in the position of needing to find guys who can prevent some goals rather than amp up the entertainment value of being high event players at both ends.

 

[Jim Bob]

Teams don't have 4 top pairing guys -- do you realize that the word "pair" implies two?

Owen Power will never be a top pairing defenseman because he won't be paired with Dahlin -- intersting to know! In 5 years you'll sound like a moron saying that he's a second pairing defenseman even though he has the most TOI on the whole team.

If Power becomes a topp pairing Dman, does that push Samuelsson back to being second pairing? This line of logic is silly.


Did I say Dalin didn't play better with Samuelsson?

If you think a team has two and only two top pairing defenseman at one time, you are the silly one.

That is like saying that Malkin has been a 2nd line center his whole career.

Samuelsson is absolutely a complementary top pairing defensive defenseman.

 

[Chainshot]

Hinostroza being healthy isn’t even close to a reason to take Asplund out.

Hinostroza being healthy isn’t a reason to take anyone out

Poor play is a reason…and that ain’t Asplund. Sorry for so many that it ain’t Krebs either. Know how bad they want it.

Yeah, I have a hard time looking at last night's game and finding it hard to see one guy who would be an easy player to sit.

 

[jfc64]

Now, go ahead and trade for BOTH Erik Karlsson and John Klingberg. Entertainment!

 

[Chainshot]

Now, go ahead and trade for BOTH Erik Karlsson and John Klingberg. Entertainment!

Eek. All the shots, every game, all the time.

 

[Jim Bob]

Breaking them down into separate bins -

Parayko would be really interesting as a possible option to solve the RHD part of things for the non-Dahlin 2nd pairing. That said, he's got a full NTC that he's in the first season of and from what I can tell of a deal that takes him well out into his mid-30's. Adding to that, he has no ties to WNY or the Sabres outside of being teammates with two guys who left during the worse times in O'Reilly and Scandella. If the Blues wanted to move him and the bigger if of Parayko being willing to go to Buffalo, yeah, that would be an interesting option. The fit might be there, though the risk of his deal (the amount of time with the NTC and his age in particular) seems like a mitigating circumstance, even if he was interested in making it happen.

Parayko has played with Jost, Comrie & Skinner at the WCs for Canada and he did play with Tage for Thompson's half a season in St Louis.

I would expect that he would nix a trade to Buffalo. But, we know Adams is not afraid to try and trade for a guy with a NTC.

There are not a ton of RHD that might be a solid fit next to Power for a long stretch. I think Parayko could be that. And he would add some more experience to a blueline that is really young.

 

[DeletedUser539]

I would rather stay the course as we are actually improving game to game yes I also would like a top four rhd to pair with power and upgrades to the bottom six but I also don't want to trade away guys like savoie,rosen,kulich and ostlund yet or handcuff our available cap that was finally fixed from making over zealous trades or signings.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

I love watching this team play man. Easily the most entertaining team in hockey to watch imo.... and i'm a blues fan.....


Question for you guys, obviously depth on D is wee bit of concern in terms of playoffs this year and probably for the next 2-3....

I was wondering what Sabres fans are thinking the next big move will be and when.... Are you guys content staying with whatcha got for this year and just letting the guys continue to gel and build together? Or do you guys think a veteran D or Fwd added to the mix would help? Obviously you guys have an embarassement of riches when it comes to A/B level prospects and draft picks right now......

If you guys were interested in immediate help (that could also be around longer term and provide veteran leadership) would Colton Parayko and or Ivan Barbashev tickle your guys fancy? Parayko gets a bad rap on here from people that expected him to become the next chris pronger or be an immediate and easy alex pietrangelo replacement and he just isn't that. But he is an absolute mutant at 6'5 and skates/gallops like the wind, he's a stud defensively(especially in important games) and his skating allows him to recover from his or others mistakes extremely often. Think of it as adding a right handed samuelsson with a smidge less puck skill but loads of more experience.

I figured

Dahlin-Sammy
Power-Parayko

would be a ridiculous top 4 D core for the next however many seasons and allows you to put joker into a 5-6 slot which probably makes that pairing one if not the best 3rd pair in the league and the trickle down effect with bryson/pilut-joker and lyubushkin gives you guys a nice 8 man unit that you'll be able to rotate in and out of the bottom pair. Or allows you flexibility this offseason to trade joker somewhere where he'll get top 4 opportunity(or maybe he's in the paryako deal lol) that can clear some cap for you guys. I personally don't see how joker fits long term with you guys just given composition. I figure a veteran cup winning D that can mentor power etc.... would be exactly what you'd need.

Would love to know sabres fans thoughts on this type of acquisition and what you guys would be willing to part with

Also, figure Barbashev is an Adams type of guy who could fit into your bottom 6 as well and provide speed, energy, physicality with a surprisingly nice shot(60 pts last year, tho it's an outlier, hes ideally a 3rd line LW that can play C if needed)


I also think Toronto fans and media would absolutely lose their minds if you guys acquired Parayko lmaooo

Blues are going to want to trade Paryako as the player he was before this season, and other teams are going to look at his contract and hesitate.

I wonder if the Sabres wouldn't be well served looking at Mikkola as a UFA. If Johnson doesn't sign with them, he could hold down the fort on their 3rd pairing.

 

[jc17]

Every day after a VO goal needs a friendly reminder that you have to give to get.

If he never scored, no one would ever want him. We can't want to hold onto him after every goal and want to trade him after every goal-less stretch

 

[Fjordsen]

Parayko? Of course! If Adams was ready to get Gibson on his contract, he might as well target Parayko, we really need a player like that.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Assuming the first one out will be... ___________?

I would think Asplund for how he's worked in and out of the lineup thus far.

We know the dog pile answer is for most.

What do we think of a potential Boosh/Clague 3rd pair ?

 

[BuffaloGooner]

The more I think about it, Philly has some nice players I’d like the Sabres to target. Konecny is one of my favorite guys (since he’s like Skinner in that he’s a skilled dink), Farabee, Sanheim, hell even Scott Laughton for a more defensive center.

There is no way the higher ups at that organization can think lying to themselves is more sustainable than gaining futures.

 

[Chainshot]

What do we think of a potential Boosh/Clague 3rd pair ?

Jokiharju isn't close to ready, so it seems that pair would be a ways off.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

The more I think about it, Philly has some nice players I’d like the Sabres to target. Konecny is one of my favorite guys (since he’s like Skinner in that he’s a skilled dink), Farabee, Sanheim, hell even Scott Laughton for a more defensive center.

There is no way the higher ups at that organization can think lying to themselves is more sustainable than gaining futures.

Would you trade Mitt's + for Konecny ? We know Farrabee was of interest as he was rumored to be part of the Risto deal.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Blues are going to want to trade Paryako as the player he was before this season, and other teams are going to look at his contract and hesitate.

I wonder if the Sabres wouldn't be well served looking at Mikkola as a UFA. If Johnson doesn't sign with them, he could hold down the fort on their 3rd pairing.

Weirdly when the Sabres played the Blues, I was posting in their GDT about the guy. We pretty much agreed that Mikkola + small add for Joker would work as a basis for a trade. Or the middle of the Sabres 3 2nds.