CaliSabresfan24
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Who had Peterka 1st in goals and 2nd in points on the team at Thanksgiving on there bingo card?
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1 - yes demote Levi and if he improves trade Comrie at the TDL and bring him back up.
2 - yes demote Krebs, but wait until TT is back.
3 - nah, keep Johnson, waive/trade Bryson, platoon EJ and Clifton at 3rd RHD.
4 - agree with Rousek also.
5 - maybe, but Quinn will be back soon, so just for a couple weeks.
6 - yes, as usual, he's a cap dump and untradeable at this point.
When the dust settles you have 14-7-2
Skinner - Thompson - Tuch
Greenway - Mittelstadt - Benson
Quinn - Cozens - Peterka
Girgensons - Jost - Okposo
Olofsson, Rousek
Sammy/RyJo - Dahlin
Power - Jokiharju
RyJo/Sammy - Johnson/Clifton
Some of this is on Granato too. He needs to get guys in their best roles and get them going. If Rousek brings more speed and battle than Okposo at this point, it needs to happen and a team captain needs to accept that and set an example. If one of Clifton or EJ aren't better than RyJo then Granato needs to make them earn that last spot on their natural right-hand side and accept the result. Krebs and Olofsson have to accept that they need to be better to play, etc. Both KA and Granato have to set standards and make these guys play up to them.
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K8fool
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Agree w taking pressure of Levi . Krebs finding his offensive game w first line reps is an excellent idea , giving kulich or rosen help or a look.
Bryson proved he is better than most teams top 7 and will be gone. Great D deprh lets not lose.
The assessment begins soon unless we lose alot. Need a five game win streak and we may be stronger when Thompson and Quinn return.
Game 39? Is pitt jan 7
Game 48? is jan 27 Both dates are fine if we have less than 20 regulation losses. As quinn and TT may be strong enough to help by Feb
Bryson proved he is better than most teams top 7 and will be gone. Great D deprh lets not lose.
The assessment begins soon unless we lose alot. Need a five game win streak and we may be stronger when Thompson and Quinn return.
Game 39? Is pitt jan 7
Game 48? is jan 27 Both dates are fine if we have less than 20 regulation losses. As quinn and TT may be strong enough to help by Feb
sabremike
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Kevyn Adams became Gm After the team had amassed 68 points in 69 games.
That is what the team he inherited was.
as we approach the quarter mark of this season after four full off-seasons of work…they have 18 points in 19 games. They don’t have 12 forwards they want to play while missing 1 in season injury there (Quinn was hurt before UFA. He chose not to replace him). Rosen and Kulich are ready for call ups…but the phone doesn’t ring despite being desperate for scoring. They have a rookie outperforming his two ”big” off-season moves on D…who can’t get minutes because Granato won’t bench anyone. They have a 21 year old goalie who he said we can’t block who needs to play a lot more and not in the NHL…but instead we carry three goalies so no one can get any kind of rhythm because we can’t admit this was always a terrible plan. It’s made even dumber when UPL and Comrie have exceeded expectations and you have been handed an easy out to do what’s right.
Is it enough yet? Are we honestly ok with this mess that isn’t in any better place than they were before Adams got here? Do we have to do this forever? He needs to do his f***ing job.
Doing nothing is not acceptable. This is not acceptable.
That is what the team he inherited was.
as we approach the quarter mark of this season after four full off-seasons of work…they have 18 points in 19 games. They don’t have 12 forwards they want to play while missing 1 in season injury there (Quinn was hurt before UFA. He chose not to replace him). Rosen and Kulich are ready for call ups…but the phone doesn’t ring despite being desperate for scoring. They have a rookie outperforming his two ”big” off-season moves on D…who can’t get minutes because Granato won’t bench anyone. They have a 21 year old goalie who he said we can’t block who needs to play a lot more and not in the NHL…but instead we carry three goalies so no one can get any kind of rhythm because we can’t admit this was always a terrible plan. It’s made even dumber when UPL and Comrie have exceeded expectations and you have been handed an easy out to do what’s right.
Is it enough yet? Are we honestly ok with this mess that isn’t in any better place than they were before Adams got here? Do we have to do this forever? He needs to do his f***ing job.
Doing nothing is not acceptable. This is not acceptable.
joshjull
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Oh Chad....
1) Lets start with the Girgs/Okposo nonsense. Chad's been pushing this crap all season to deflect from his boy Krebs' poor play. He also sprinkles in attacks on Donny for not giving him better linemates.
Girgs hasn't lost a step and is one of the faster players on this team. Don't believe me, check the NHL EDGE stats. Chad either didn't do his research or is just lying. Neither is a good look but he's counting on his followers to not notice (not the first time).
Girgs/Okposo have been mostly solid with some very good games sprinkled in without Krebs. It's also a very odd night to go after them........
OZS% - 29%
CF-12
CA -3
SCF- 5
SCA -0
HDCF-2
HDCA -0
Pretty dominate play with a tough deployment and revolving left wingers.
2) Why no mention of the biggest problem this team faces? Our best players not being good enough all season. Thats why we are the position we're in. That group, more than anything else, will be why we got out of this situation (assuming we do). Odd omission when talking about a pivotal moment of the season.
3) Why no mention of sending Krebs down for one of Kulich/Rosen? I would have thought the guy struggling all season with zero 5v5 points and only a secondary assist overall would be the prime candidate for it. Oh, right that's his boy.
4) Ryan Johnson. I'd like to see him stay up and send Bryson down. But can they settle down a bit. They've been doing a circle jerk over the kid since he played his first game. It's amazing how quick they do this for players they like and how long it takes for ones they don't. (Mitts says hello). The kid has hardly played (8gms with 14mins atoi and no special teams). Its bit early to assert they have to admit he is better than both free agents.
Would it kill Chad to do actual hockey analysis on this? Like getting into the fact that E.Johnson plays the lion's share of PK minutes of the dmen (with Sammy). Or that Clifton also PKs and provides physicality that Ryan Johnson doesn't. None of that means RyJohnson can't play ahead of one of them. But more of conversation is needed beyond simply posting R.Johnson's xGF% and pretending that's all that matters.
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Dreakon13
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I kinda agree that this management group can't seem to make a decision, though I think it's because they're desperately trying to not lose the good vibes in the room.
After a decade of disenfranchised young players and money chasing vet signings, I think they found themselves in a weird place this past offseason with a young, talented group actually happy to be in Buffalo and in the conversation for actual NHL players in free agency... so to do a heel turn and start benching new acquisitions after only a chunk of the season (especially a guy like EJ who is both beloved and supposed to be showing Dahlin and Power how it's done), and/or send Levi packing after becoming a bit of a local media darling or whatever other verbal agreements might've been behind the scenes, or whatever other decisions they might need to make, probably feels unconscionable.
They're kinda waiting for a player or players to such a bad stretch that they actually force their hand, which I don't think has necessarily happened yet with most of the roster top to bottom having their own struggles. Where I think a team in a less desperate position organizationally doesn't really think past rewarding the players playing better.
After a decade of disenfranchised young players and money chasing vet signings, I think they found themselves in a weird place this past offseason with a young, talented group actually happy to be in Buffalo and in the conversation for actual NHL players in free agency... so to do a heel turn and start benching new acquisitions after only a chunk of the season (especially a guy like EJ who is both beloved and supposed to be showing Dahlin and Power how it's done), and/or send Levi packing after becoming a bit of a local media darling or whatever other verbal agreements might've been behind the scenes, or whatever other decisions they might need to make, probably feels unconscionable.
They're kinda waiting for a player or players to such a bad stretch that they actually force their hand, which I don't think has necessarily happened yet with most of the roster top to bottom having their own struggles. Where I think a team in a less desperate position organizationally doesn't really think past rewarding the players playing better.
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debaser66
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they all got barely any minutes, if I would cut off some time of Dahlins nearly 28 min per game, and EJ is the best PK option besides MS
debaser66
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the X systems promotes bad "Journalism", its detrimental to its core, just wasting peoples time, with attention grabbing being its main quality.
Why should he care to research, if he actually posted something sensible, nobody would share it, its that urge to correct or respond to stupidity that fuels antisocial media.
toddkaz
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Its time to turn the page on Okposo and Girgensons. Its not working and it hasn't worked for years.
I hope when this team is out of the playoffs these guys are jettisoned at the trade deadline and give icetime to guys like Rousek, Biro and even Cederqivst and Weissbach and see what we have.
I can't help but think naming a new captain, maybe Dahlin would help energize the team and Dahlin.
I hope when this team is out of the playoffs these guys are jettisoned at the trade deadline and give icetime to guys like Rousek, Biro and even Cederqivst and Weissbach and see what we have.
I can't help but think naming a new captain, maybe Dahlin would help energize the team and Dahlin.
Krebs is only waivers exempt a few more games. Once he's not exempt, he gets claimed for sure.
you forgot...
get rid of the assistant coaches that are doing nothing but collecting a paycheck.
if the above happens and nothing changes, get rid of Donnie.
this team doesn't deserve the attention and respect the people on this board show for them. in fact, neither does this shit hole league with their absurd officiating, gambling affiliation, and laughable rules enforcement.
YEP! And this board has been infiltrated by them over the past couple of years...you can easily tell which posters live on twitter and parrot the nonsense. This place has pretty much become WGR whiner line Twitterazi derp quality at this point.
Doug Prishpreed
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It’s a horrible website that’s on its last legs, what do you expect? I can’t believe how many people still come here as it is.
Forgot about that. I would actually rather trade Krebs+ to Calgary for Lindholm. I also would like to trade Comrie+ to Edmonton for Ryan McLeod. None of that will happen. Krebs will stay, be mediocre, and KA will sit on that.
Mattilaus
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It's not realistic to get a player like Lindholm for spare parts. Trading for him would hurt. Not saying i wouldn't do it, but Krebs would not be the main piece.
They are close to ruining Krebs. He's been all over the lineup. Forced to play with slugs like Okposo. Ruined his value. You've got less than a dozen games to move him to Rochester and try to get his game back. Then trade him. His value now is the equivalent of a late second and not much more. You would need to put Rosen minimum into a deal for Lindholm on the plus side. A signed Lindholm would be worth it. I'd go Rosen, Krebs, 2nd rounder or Poltapov. If Lindholm signed for a nice four to five year deal, I would consider Savoie even.
Mattilaus
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I don't believe Rosen, Krebs, and a 2nd would be enough for a signed Lindholm. He is a 70-80 point, defensively responsible C, who is one of the best faceoff guys, smack dab in the middle of his prime.
I'd do Rosen or savoie, Krebs, and a 2nd in a heartbeat which means it isn't enough.
joshjull
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I agree with your take on “X”. But Chad has been like this from the start. Well before X was a thing.
I don’t want to completely dump on Chad because I do like some of his stuff, like his post game breakdowns and some of the team focused articles. But he and his boys are so over the top in their praise for players they like and relentlessly attack players they don’t like.
CaliSabresfan24
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We all know the Pegula's won't let Adams can Donny. We all saw how long it took for them to finally fire Ralph. I am not fully on the get rid of Granato idea but I am getting closer then I ever thought I would
So if thats the case, you need to get rid of either Christy or Ellis or both of them. Who cares what Donny thinks at this point. There needs to be a shake up behind the bench.
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Maybe I'm just ignorant of the Sabres twitter discourse as I only use twitter to snag replay clips/highlights. But it seems like people only post Chad here to dump on him? Where are these legions of twitter poisoned HF boards posters?
stokes84
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Girgs and Okposo are here for one reason: to grind out hard minutes and not get scored on. Last night, they put out Girgs to get the game to the garage. And what happens? Girgs loses his man and they tie the game. If he can’t be counted on to give you that, what is he here for? He’s done. He gives us nothing. Only a liability who doesn’t know the first thing about winning hockey games consistently.
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You’ll find the people who spend the off-seasons defending Adams real world inactivity and trolling the people who voice concern over it need a place to vent when they are proven wrong yet again. The boogeyman of “Sabres twitter analytics guy” is just their strawman target because they can’t admit they duped themselves again. Or that the brutally honest posters they hate were, of course, right.
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