Roster Thread (2023-2024 Season)

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nooooo not players who hate to lose!

Remember when he had O'reilly? Man what a loser.

And Eichel too. He hated losing.

What happened to those guys?

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If we get Brady for our 4th best forward prospect, a late 1st, and 2 cap dumps, I am all for it!
 
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Peters wants to trade our first or either of Savoie or Kulich for Kadri in his age 34 - 39 seasons.

Then more for some of the worst players in the league on terrible contracts like Gudbranson. Because we “don’t need skill” on a team that won’t have a 60 point forward in a season where scoring is up in the league

The bar has been set for worst off-season idea.
Stop trading for guys that are moral sh&ts. Just because they are tough. Find and oay fir tough up and coming stars ready to be names as we have assets. After switching out lame sword giving Coach and timid kissing asz gm. We'll be fine. Remove data tracking devices for first periods and key games f the league
 
Sabre's actual Pegula organizational motto.......

"We hate to lose.........

........ but we now expect too"

We are a long, long ways from his original "purpose' statement....
 
Sabre's actual Pegula organizational motto.......

"We hate to lose.........

........ but we now expect too"

We are a long, long ways from his original "purpose' statement....
They need to stop focusing on what to say to the media or addressing opinions that they obviously disregard and focus on action we don't need our guys to be good in interviews we need them to to be good on the ice and stop having everyone in the orginaztion care about media or having a feel good response or pretty words to put us at ease it's at the point where we don't care if you are trying just do. Good locker room vibes was last years storyline, what's this year's? I know they had reasons for a less than optimal year with Quinn and tage's injury but no excuses they all need to go into the off-season agitated not disappointed. This group of players live and die by granato apparently so why didn't they play like it they need to be dissatisfied with the results, which I am sure they are probably taking it the worst, and the effort they put in if they gave their best every night they need to realize their best wasn't good enough and need to be better. I don't mean just skating hard or battle tirelessly on the boards, we need that too, but rather dialed in before puck drop. Do we have a sports psychiatrist? If not we should get one so these guys get help for staying focused and help sharpen mentality come game time. One thing I noticed is that a lot of guys at times seem to be in their head and doing to much thinking we need to play instinctively while aware to much puck watching on defense so many times you'll see 3-4 guys just focused on the puck carrier anticipating his moves meanwhile someone is sliding right into the slot. They need to trust eachother on defense and trust that their guy has their guy and stay in position we get chaotic and end up collapsing. /End rant
 
Peters wants to trade our first or either of Savoie or Kulich for Kadri in his age 34 - 39 seasons.

Then more for some of the worst players in the league on terrible contracts like Gudbranson. Because we “don’t need skill” on a team that won’t have a 60 point forward in a season where scoring is up in the league

The bar has been set for worst off-season idea.

Is Petey back at the bar? Woof.
 
Having a hobbled pro scouting department means thinking that they can makeover an energy line and swap around half (or more) of their defense and get a good backup like Vancouver did in the last year is probably folly, right?

I mean, other than hiring a coach and fresh assistants... which Vancouver also did.
 
Peterka Thompson Tuch

Quinn Cozens Benson

Skinner XXX XXX

Greenway XXX XXX

I want a C (depending on assets) as 2C or 3C. Two new 4th liners. Guessing Savoie makes the 3W spot.

Can consider Skinner but it is unlikely anything happens, a good 3C he can be serviceable.

Dahlin Byram
Power XXX
Samuelsson XXX

#Free Ryan Johnson

Offseason will be boring for D outside of Joker contract. D is heavily invested in long term.

UPL
Levi
Comrie's name will be etched into the backup goalie spot on the bench (not on the team).

I am really only seeing 1 big center addition, two fourth line signings, maybe a bottom pair D. Probably too boring for unhappy fans.

If we want to sign a real name coach that shakes loose sure, but if its to promote appert or another first time head coach, leave Granato in.
 
Can someone explain to me how getting a couple of Matt Martins or *insert minimally skilled plug who hits people* fixes the problem of the team being poorly coached and drilled and players having no idea what they are supposed to be doing and constantly being in the wrong position?
 
Can someone explain to me how getting a couple of Matt Martins or *insert minimally skilled plug who hits people* fixes the problem of the team being poorly coached and drilled and players having no idea what they are supposed to be doing and constantly being in the wrong position?
Hockey isn't football -- the coach isn't giving them routes to run. They're supposed to know the basic shit that you're describing. A lot of it is on the dumbass players who were all so skilled coming up that their coaches probably let them do whatever.

The coach sucks and needs to go, but the way these guys are in the wrong position so much goes well beyond bad coaching.
 
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Can someone explain to me how getting a couple of Matt Martins or *insert minimally skilled plug who hits people* fixes the problem of the team being poorly coached and drilled and players having no idea what they are supposed to be doing and constantly being in the wrong position?

A couple of points on this:

Players have roles and not all of those roles are dangling and toe dragging to generate chances. Playing one's role is an important aspect of a team game, with shutting down other team's top guys actually being part of the equation. Can a player negate his opposite number, generally disrupt another team's better lines, win their matchup territorially? Some of that is retention of the puck and how to best keep the puck from the front of one's own net. I would assert that one of the best ways to do that is to work a strong cycle on the forecheck. Making the less risky play to put a puck below the goal line and trusting one's linemates to work a disruptive forecheck that keeps a team pinned in their own zone is a skill that a lot of people just don't appreciate because it isn't as easy to see as a goal. That isn't necessarily just from someone who hits nor is that a Matt Martin type exclusively.

Then there is another aspect that seems to get left out, and that's the idea of pulling a team into the fight. Guys who hit often will engage the crowd at home. It can be infectious, drawing one's teammates into things. Competitive people get their blood up and it builds on itself. So for a team that struggles to have the fans engaged, in a town that absolutely adores the physical side of the game, to have the team essentially completely ignore the physical part of the sport is self-hobbling. They don't get the fans out of their seats on a big hit, they don't get the other team off their game looking for revenge, and they don't get their sleepy asses into the game right away. From a fan support standpoint, embrace the dumb. Embrace the barstool guy who is always complaining about some player not hitting or being tough or whatever by giving them some of those guys who are very much that to keep those folks engaged and entertained while the high-skill guys can go do their thing.

Yes, the coach doesn't require it and appears to openly allow them to avoid it so some of the guys won't do it. I'm not thinking Dakota Joshua in Buffalo is going to have over 200 hits (or even four fights) this year. But it's how he's wired and what he does and would likely be how he approaches playing.

And from a defensive standpoint, it still looks like a team that is willing to put a body on a body in the defensive zone to knock down their check has an easier time disrupting in-zone flow and overload attempts because someone has to pick themselves up off the ice to get back into the play. They don't have to chase hits, but when they are there, finish them and reap some of the reward.
 
Peters wants to trade our first or either of Savoie or Kulich for Kadri in his age 34 - 39 seasons.

Then more for some of the worst players in the league on terrible contracts like Gudbranson. Because we “don’t need skill” on a team that won’t have a 60 point forward in a season where scoring is up in the league

The bar has been set for worst off-season idea.
Has he proposed trading for Ryan Reeves?
 
My 2024 Offseason priorities:

1) Coaching change
2) Removal of Skinner either via trade or buyout.
3) Middle six C
4) RHD to play with Power
5) two way middle six winger to play with Cozens/Quinn
6) Competent Backup G to allow Levi to get starts in Rochester.
 
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