Jim Bob
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Given that ZG and VO are the two obvious TDL candidates that did not move, I doubt that is the case.
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I believe the quote was retaining in a 3 way trade to facilitate other teams. I am sure he offered retention on VO as UFA.
Zman5778
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I'll believe it when I see it.
I mean, Kevyn told us his plan in the offseason during his presser:
1. Promote from within to fill Casey's 3C spot (Krebs/Savoie/Ostlund)
2. Specifically mentioned a 4th line center to help on faceoffs/PK from outside the org.
3. Wants to keep Girgensons.
Essentially, the same forward group is coming back with a new 4th line center and maybe a vet depth RW. And Olofsson is walking (didn't say that, but assumed)
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I agree it's probably what happens .. but I doubt he says any differently at this time if he was working on something
I mean, let's go through the wingers:
Tuch - Stated explicitly not interested in trading.
Skinner - Full NMC and untradable contract.
Quinn/Peterka/Benson - All on ELC
Greenway - Pretty much only defensively competent forward in the top 9.
Thompson/Cozens - Signed for 7 years and already moved out 1 center.
Realistically, I don't see a fit other than maybe swapping Greenway out for someone else, but why would they move their only forward who knows where the defensive zone is?
The real smart move would be to buyout Skinner and find a fit, but, I don't expect the ownership to rubber stamp that.
3 is false.
He wanted Girgs for the rest of the season he thought his leadership was still valuable to the team finishing the season.
KA will 100% add an impact forward this offseason. I do not mean a 4C.
I like Greenway, he is probably a high end 4th liner on a cup contender. I wouldn't feel bad putting him down there if it meant a good winger was added. The skinner buyout is a possibility he looks like he.....lost his love for the game.
Jim Bob
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I could see Peterka moved.
I could see Power moved.
He could trade for a more conventional Center that would push Tage down.. and put Cozens on Wing or make Cozens 3rd line C.
Peterka would be hard because he is on ELC so not much money going out.
That's why Power going is best option. Move 8 mill out... replace Power with either RJ or a much cheaper top 4 guy ( Roy?) Not Pesce.. he's washed.
He specifically stated his focus is on getting players to help the team win games. He saved about 3m in cap space short term by moving Mitts out. He can Taylor Hall someone if he wanted this year.
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I highly doubt Adams has any intention of dealing Power
Beerz
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Probably not. I should of said my preference instead of "I could see".
I just think it makes the most sense.
Good value and high salary out in order to bring in an impact forward... preferably a Center
Adams heavily implied they wanted to bring him back. And they have paid him well over the market rate twice now to keep him here. We will see what happens this summer but my guess is he stays on some over market 1 year deal again.
Time will tell. I don't see it happening though. Would be happy to be wrong.
Greenway is a middle six winger, IMHO. 1 year left to UFA though. I'm curious how tied is he to Granato's status as he's a guy Granato wanted badly.
That would be out of character for Adams, but we'll see.
Ain't nobody touching Powers contract. At least not at the value you'd want to get out of a recent 1st OA pick. Who can take on 8M a year for a work in progress?
If you assume 1.5-2M for Krebs
5 M for UPL
~5M for the 4th line
That's around 10M left to cover:
Backup Goalie, 13th F/7th D-man.
So there is cap room to make an add, especially if you move a body out. But Power ain't getting moved.
Jim Bob
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He stated that he wanted to upgrade the blueline last off season and he got Clifton and EJ.
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The money wouldn't be for next year... would be for the year after with Quinn and Peterka and Levi being reupped...and I think Tuch is due that year too? Or maybe the year after.
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Don't think calling Greenway the only defensively competent forward in the top 9 is even remotely accurate. Benson, Quinn, even Cozens have pretty good defensive awareness just off the top of my head. Thompson has better defensive analytics than Greenway too. Greenway is a 3rd line energy winger at best that I was never impressed with even when he was in Minnesota.
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You have 3 major RFAs next year: Quinn, Peterka, and Bryam. Only major fall off is Greenway. Assuming a 5M or so raising of the cap, you are probably going to bridge them to the other side of Skinner's deal and make a long term decision then.
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The Hall situation was unique to that off-season and his connection to Krueger. Usually good players would sign a one eyar deal to make a Cup run. We’re not remotely a Stanley Cup contender. I mean we’re not even a playoff team yet.
So why would a good veteran sign here for one year? Whats the incentive?
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Hopefully they bridge Peterka... I'll hold up and wait n see about Quinn. I'd like them to get a long term deal with Byram.
I say we have at least 2 more years of Skinner. I can only see them buying him out in final year.
And it was reported he went after Pesce and didn’t win out to the movement clause. It’s if he can’t get who he wants that scratch and dent takes over.
Jim Bob
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And as Adams said at his press conference, they are still dealing with that and it is incumbent on the team to improve to the point that more players are willing to come here.
The Tuch and Byram cases are still outliers and not the norm.
That impacts the odds of Adams being able to land an impact F this offseason.
And given how Tarasenko to Ottawa worked out (along with Hall here), I wouldn't be super excited about a veteran UFA signing for 1 year at big money.
Err, money? never said it was realistic.
As a 13th I am okay with Girgensons. Not sure what Power matters here? Skinner is the issue. I wouldn't even consider trading Power.
Clifton was an upgrade.....
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
Not a strong UFA market for a 4th line C who can win faceoffs and kill penalties.
Clifton was not the upgrade in the top 4 that people were hoping for this past offseason.
He is an OK 3rd pairing RHD moving forward.
Skinner is reaching buyout territory with his play. He got benched last game and was largely responsible for the SHG against.
Maybe he is still nursing whatever injury he missed time with, and will be back to his regular chaotic self next season. I guess we can hope. We can’t even Matt Moulson him because of his NMC.
Maybe he is still nursing whatever injury he missed time with, and will be back to his regular chaotic self next season. I guess we can hope. We can’t even Matt Moulson him because of his NMC.
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