Roster Thread (2023-2024 Season)

[The Red Helmet]

Kulich should ask for a trade.

 

[sabremike]

I think Girgensons is just here to help keep things on the rails through the end of the season. Both on ice, as a responsible "center" and in the room. Disappearing Okie, EJ, and Girgs all at once wouldn't have been a responsible changing of the leadership guard imo.

The season is already off the rails and the wreckage is strewn all over the place so what even is the point?

 

[HOOats]

The season is already off the rails and the wreckage is strewn all over the place so what even is the point?

This ain't wreckage. In the wrecked minds of our fanbase it may appear as wreckage, but it isn't. Wreckage is ten game losing streaks, guys sniping at each other in the media, guys fighting each other at the bar, interpersonal problems that last for a long time. And avoiding that is important to next season (which is scheduled to take place, despite this board's wishes).

 

[zenthusiast]

Utter disaster would at least be entertaining, this is just endless impotence

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

This ain't wreckage. In the wrecked minds of our fanbase it may appear as wreckage, but it isn't. Wreckage is ten game losing streaks, guys sniping at each other in the media, guys fighting each other at the bar, interpersonal problems that last for a long time. And avoiding that is important to next season (which is scheduled to take place, despite this board's wishes).

“Content sub-mediocrity” might be a more apt term

 

[DapperCam]

Tim Murray was the poster child for "Red Flag" shopper, and his dysfunctional locker room and team broke the first rebuild attempt.

His strategy was okay, he just picked a bunch of a-holes.

 

[TehDoak]

This ain't wreckage. In the wrecked minds of our fanbase it may appear as wreckage, but it isn't. Wreckage is ten game losing streaks, guys sniping at each other in the media, guys fighting each other at the bar, interpersonal problems that last for a long time. And avoiding that is important to next season (which is scheduled to take place, despite this board's wishes).

If anything, this teams more drama. It'd at least show that they care.

Adams has gathered the most docile group of drinking/gaming buddies this side of the dispensary next to a dave and busters next to a jr college.

 

[zenthusiast]

Maybe it’ll suddenly come together next year.

 

[Chainshot]

Kulich should ask for a trade.

Why?

 

[Der Jaeger]

Did Adams say why he didn’t move Girgensons?

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Anyone think the "veteran center" Adams tried to get was Zegras? I know there was some smoke about that over the summer.

Or any other guesses?

 

[truthbluth]

Did Adams say why he didn’t move Girgensons?

Yes, because Girgensons is too important to the fabric of the team.

Anyone think the "veteran center" Adams tried to get was Zegras? I know there was some smoke about that over the summer.

Or any other guesses?

It was Laughton, I'd bet. Probably just Philly wouldn't come .down on price.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

It was Laughton, I'd bet. Probably just Philly wouldn't come .down on price.

Duh. He totally slipped my mind.

 

[Fezzy126]

Hertl going to Vegas.

Do some of you get it yet that teams don’t care about the cap. They upgrade and worry about it after.

It’s maddening reading posters worrying about RFA contracts down the road in here.

We’re f***ed if our front office is worried about it.

Yes. All of this.

I also don't understand why some fans (you know who you are) think there are only two choices:
1) Trade a player before his contract is up, or
2) Sign a long term contract and assume that you're stuck with him until he retires or dies

The third option is sign a that player to term, and if someone starts to outperform him, or you start to go up against the cap, then trade him away at that time. Do you know what the Calgary's and Winnipeg's (or the Buffalo's for that matter) of the world would do if you offered them a good player locked into a long term contract? It's a dream scenario that never happens for them.

Players want to go to winning teams. Florida was a joke where players got retirement contracts for nearly 20 years. They're well run and win - the other parts are just gravy. If Vegas was a shit stain on the ice, players wouldn't be interested in going there. It's not the weather or taxes that make the difference, it's winning.

I was begging for Zito to be our GM before we hired Botts. I'm so envious of what he's done there. Glad to know I can be right about some things once in a while.

 

[Gabrielor]

Couple random, unconnected takes:

1) Their best prospect not named Benson/Levi is Savoie.

2) They should trade their 24 1st for help now, even if they win the lotto

3) Mitts took 6 years to become what he is now. Give Krebs time.

 

[Dubi Doo]

I feel like it's not fair to keep Gus around for more of this.

I admire the loyalty. He'd rather sink with the ship than live and watch her fall to the abyss. It's reminiscent of the captain standing by the fire in the Titanic movie.

On the real, it's telling to me that he wants to gut it out for this team. His effort is never in question. The epitome of a heart and soul player, and I'm here for it.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Couple random, unconnected takes:

1) Their best prospect not named Benson/Levi is Savoie.

2) They should trade their 24 1st for help now, even if they win the lotto

3) Mitts took 6 years to become what he is now. Give Krebs time.

1. Agree

2. I agree we shouldn't use our pick, but if we win a top-2 pick, Celebrini or Lindstrom would be great gets.

3. Agree

 

[Chainshot]

Yes, because Girgensons is too important to the fabric of the team.


It was Laughton, I'd bet. Probably just Philly wouldn't come .down on price.

Laughton was someone a few places talked up as a possible match for Buffalo. There was also that random thing about Couture which seemed like it would go nowhere since they would have had to retain... but the Sharks just did for Hertl until 2027.

Couple random, unconnected takes:

1) Their best prospect not named Benson/Levi is Savoie.

2) They should trade their 24 1st for help now, even if they win the lotto

3) Mitts took 6 years to become what he is now. Give Krebs time.

If they traded their 1st and it was the winning lottery ticket for Celebrini, that would be foolish. That kid is for real.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Laughton was someone a few places talked up as a possible match for Buffalo. There was also that random thing about Couture which seemed like it would go nowhere since they would have had to retain... but the Sharks just did for Hertl until 2027.

And now the Sharks can't retain next season (Hertl, Karlsson, Burns).

 

[Chainshot]

And now the Sharks can't retain next season (Hertl, Karlsson, Burns).

Yep. Crazy stupid of them to not only retain but give up two third rounders in that too.

 

[Ace]

I also don't understand why some fans (you know who you are) think there are only two choices:
1) Trade a player before his contract is up, or
2) Sign a long term contract and assume that you're stuck with him until he retires or dies

I don’t think Kevyn Adams posts here

 

[Gabrielor]

Laughton was someone a few places talked up as a possible match for Buffalo. There was also that random thing about Couture which seemed like it would go nowhere since they would have had to retain... but the Sharks just did for Hertl until 2027.



If they traded their 1st and it was the winning lottery ticket for Celebrini, that would be foolish. That kid is for real.

I don't want to wait for another key guy's development. I'm already expecting years before savoie and benson are fully formed.

I'd rather get something now, and I imagine the value of moving a 1OA pick would be huge.

 

[Chainshot]

I don't want to wait for another key guy's development. I'm already expecting years before savoie and benson are fully formed.

I'd rather get something now, and I imagine the value of moving a 1OA pick would be huge.

I don't think Celebrini is going to take all sorts of time. He's going to step in and be good. And the Sabres could use a guy with that sort of talent and competitiveness. Some of their supposedly competitive guys aren't.

 

[Fezzy126]

Couple random, unconnected takes:

1) Their best prospect not named Benson/Levi is Savoie.

2) They should trade their 24 1st for help now, even if they win the lotto

3) Mitts took 6 years to become what he is now. Give Krebs time.

1) I think right now that Savioe and even probably Rosen are better hockey players than Kulich, but I still really like Kulich's upside the most. @Chainshot mentioned Palat as a comparable (I know, we loathe comparables), but I kind of think if he develops in the right way that he could be similar to Guentzel. I'm just not sure what Savioe and Rosen become at the NHL level.

2) Honestly, I'm never one to trade top 10-15OA 1st rounders. If there's a deal out there and that's what it takes, then sure, I'm not against it. Just seems like those types of deals are so few and far between.

3) In the post-covid year (2020-21), once Krueger got fired, Casey got put in a top 6 role and flashed down the stretch, scoring 16 points over the last 21 games. That was his age 22yo season (D+4).

The next season he looked like he was ready to break out during the preseason, then his injury derailed his season. Since then, he's been our best passer and most consistent performer (when not having to carry Olofsson's carcass around the ice).

Krebs is currently in his 23yo season (D+5) and I'm not sure he's ever flashed the way Casey did in his D+4 season. He'll get plenty of runway from me, but will he get it from the team?

 

[Beerz]

Couple random, unconnected takes:

1) Their best prospect not named Benson/Levi is Savoie.

2) They should trade their 24 1st for help now, even if they win the lotto

3) Mitts took 6 years to become what he is now. Give Krebs time.

Give all the time you want to Krebs..nothing wrong with being patient. But he should've been in the AHL this year.

Agreed the 24 1st needs to be utilized in a trade.

I'll take Kulich over Savoie... probably Ostlund too