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BFLO said:
Okposo is capable of having a decent game here and there, but more often than not he looks cooked.

The 60 bad games he'll play this year will outweigh the 20 decent ones. Similar to last season.

I understand that he's basically a place holder at this point and that this is probably his final season, but I still hope he gets pushed out of the lineup sooner rather than later.
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You really think Okposo was bad in 60 games last year?
 
Dubi Doo said:


These are actually pretty close to what I had. I would've gone with these lines, though:

Skinner-Tage-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Mitts
Greenway-Krebs-Benson
Girgs-Jost-Okoposo
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Benson on the third line is wasted.
Skinner-Tage-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Krebs(doesn't deserve the spot. Quinn takes it when returns)
Greenway-Mitts-Benson
Girgs-Jost-Okposo

I also think Mitts and Benson could get some chemistry going. I would have liked to see Benson on the first line last night.. I remember last year Tuch could drive offense on his own line when he was moved away from Tage.

Krebs is a black hole out there and Benson will get sucked in.

The other option is to sign Kane when he is healthy and ship Olofsson and Krebs out for picks although I am not sure we would get much. Krebs could probably get us a solid 5-6 defender.
 
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toddkaz said:
Benson on the third line is wasted.
Skinner-Tage-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Krebs(doesn't deserve the spot. Quinn takes it when returns)
Greenway-Mitts-Benson
Girgs-Jost-Okposo

I also think Mitts and Benson could get some chemistry going. I would have liked to see Benson on the first line last night.. I remember last year Tuch could drive offense on his own line when he was moved away from Tage.

Krebs is a black hole out there and Benson will get sucked in.

The other option is to sign Kane when he is healthy and ship Olofsson and Krebs out for picks although I am not sure we would get much. Krebs could probably get us a solid 5-6 defender.
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I think we waited too long to get anything of value for Krebs.

I'd leave him on 4th line for this season but will need to take a look next season what we want to do
 
toddkaz said:
Benson on the third line is wasted.
Skinner-Tage-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Krebs(doesn't deserve the spot. Quinn takes it when returns)
Greenway-Mitts-Benson
Girgs-Jost-Okposo

I also think Mitts and Benson could get some chemistry going. I would have liked to see Benson on the first line last night.. I remember last year Tuch could drive offense on his own line when he was moved away from Tage.

Krebs is a black hole out there and Benson will get sucked in.

The other option is to sign Kane when he is healthy and ship Olofsson and Krebs out for picks although I am not sure we would get much. Krebs could probably get us a solid 5-6 defender.
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No one has cap space to take Vic. He is going to be around or he is going to be part of a dollar-in-dollar-out move but almost no team has any cap to allot to that sort of pickup.
 
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Krebs situation is unfortunate. He bought into loving Buffalo and being a Sabre probably more than anyone else in the beginning. Its tough to admit you have to cut ties with the guy like that but it needs to be done if he doesn’t progress this season.
 
Chainshot said:
No one has cap space to take Vic. He is going to be around or he is going to be part of a dollar-in-dollar-out move but almost no team has any cap to allot to that sort of pickup.
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The good news is his contract didn't prevent us from doing anything this season and then it's off the books at end of the year.
 
JLewyB said:
Krebs situation is unfortunate. He bought into loving Buffalo and being a Sabre probably more than anyone else in the beginning. Its tough to admit you have to cut ties with the guy like that but it needs to be done if he doesn’t progress this season.
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Why do we have to cut ties with him? He's shown he can be a defensively-reliable 4th line option. I'm fine with Krebs as our 4th-line center with speed and a bit of jam to his game.....and it looks like he's figuring out how to win faceoffs.



As an aside -- WTF has happened to Casey in the dot???? 2 years ago, he was on an upward trajectory, winning 50%ish over the last 10 games of the season or so. This year he's been cover-your-eyes awful in the dot.
 
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Zman5778 said:
Why do we have to cut ties with him? He's shown he can be a defensively-reliable 4th line option. I'm fine with Krebs as our 4th-line center with speed and a bit of jam to his game.....and it looks like he's figuring out how to win faceoffs.



As an aside -- WTF has happened to Casey in the dot???? 2 years ago, he was on an upward trajectory, winning 50%ish over the last 10 games of the season or so. This year he's been cover-your-eyes awful in the dot.
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its ridiculous, he's 22. So many are still trying to fast forward everything, which you simply can't do with maturity and experience, such typical hockeys 'future' nonsense.

what were guys like Chandler Stephenson, Mikael Backlund, etc etc etc doing at 22? plenty of time for him to develop beyond this season. But we gotta make room NOW.
 
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Sabreality said:
its ridiculous, he's 22. So many are still trying to fast forward everything, which you simply can't do with maturity and experience, such typical hockeys 'future' nonsense.

what were guys like Chandler Stephenson, Mikael Backlund, etc etc etc doing at 22? plenty of time for him to develop beyond this season. But we gotta make room NOW.
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The example I love to cite here is Danny Paille. Dude was a 1st round pick that never realized his talent -- but went on to play good and important 4th line/PK minutes on a very good Bruins team.

If Krebs turns into that, I'm perfectly happy
 
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Zman5778 said:
Why do we have to cut ties with him? He's shown he can be a defensively-reliable 4th line option. I'm fine with Krebs as our 4th-line center with speed and a bit of jam to his game.....and it looks like he's figuring out how to win faceoffs.



As an aside -- WTF has happened to Casey in the dot???? 2 years ago, he was on an upward trajectory, winning 50%ish over the last 10 games of the season or so. This year he's been cover-your-eyes awful in the dot.
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The sample size is so small. Maybe it's randomness or maybe he matched up poorly against some of the guys he's faced so far. I'm sure he can get back up to where he was the past couple years, which is around the 45% mark. Not good but acceptable.
 
Sabreality said:
its ridiculous, he's 22. So many are still trying to fast forward everything, which you simply can't do with maturity and experience, such typical hockeys 'future' nonsense.

what were guys like Chandler Stephenson, Mikael Backlund, etc etc etc doing at 22? plenty of time for him to develop beyond this season. But we gotta make room NOW.
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The problem with Krebs is his IQ is not very good. He skates around with the puck gets pressure then throws the puck into someone's feet like he has some sort of magical vision that the puck will get through 3 players.

When will Krebs learn? Sure he is only 22 but its pretty tough to teach hockey IQ. I saw Krebs 3 times yesterday get a tiny bit of pressure and he throws the puck away.

He should know better, take the puck to the outside instead he tries to pass through 3 guys.

Don't really know whats going on with the coaches and him learning but its only a matter of time before he slowly works his way off the roster.

Trade him while he has value. We have prospects lined up to take his spot.

Chainshot said:
No one has cap space to take Vic. He is going to be around or he is going to be part of a dollar-in-dollar-out move but almost no team has any cap to allot to that sort of pickup.
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How about dollar for dollar? I would rather have Garland but his contract is 2 years too long to be a contact for contract deal.
 
toddkaz said:
The problem with Krebs is his IQ is not very good. He skates around with the puck gets pressure then throws the puck into someone's feet like he has some sort of magical vision that the puck will get through 3 players.

When will Krebs learn? Sure he is only 22 but its pretty tough to teach hockey IQ. I saw Krebs 3 times yesterday get a tiny bit of pressure and he throws the puck away.

He should know better, take the puck to the outside instead he tries to pass through 3 guys.

Don't really know whats going on with the coaches and him learning but its only a matter of time before he slowly works his way off the roster.

Trade him while he has value. We have prospects lined up to take his spot.
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If Krebs is what you describe him as......why do you think he has value around the league?
 
Zman5778 said:
Why do we have to cut ties with him? He's shown he can be a defensively-reliable 4th line option. I'm fine with Krebs as our 4th-line center with speed and a bit of jam to his game.....and it looks like he's figuring out how to win faceoffs.



As an aside -- WTF has happened to Casey in the dot???? 2 years ago, he was on an upward trajectory, winning 50%ish over the last 10 games of the season or so. This year he's been cover-your-eyes awful in the dot.
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His speed is above average. His vision is high end. The issue is he isn’t looking where he’s passing half the time. And he’s passing half the time when he should be shooting. He’s willing to “jam” but he’s actually pretty weak on the puck and checking.

I think this year will show if he should stick in the NHL or be a tweener. It mainly depends on whether that willingness turns into effectiveness in the “jam” part of his game. The start to the year doesn’t bode well.
 
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toddkaz said:
Benson on the third line is wasted.
Skinner-Tage-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Krebs(doesn't deserve the spot. Quinn takes it when returns)
Greenway-Mitts-Benson
Girgs-Jost-Okposo

I also think Mitts and Benson could get some chemistry going. I would have liked to see Benson on the first line last night.. I remember last year Tuch could drive offense on his own line when he was moved away from Tage.

Krebs is a black hole out there and Benson will get sucked in.

The other option is to sign Kane when he is healthy and ship Olofsson and Krebs out for picks although I am not sure we would get much. Krebs could probably get us a solid 5-6 defender.
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Repeating what others have said, but don't think of the lines as a hierarchy.

Last season, 28-19-21 were getting the second most ice-time behind 53-72-89. This season 12-37-9 is (through 3 games) the only line tilting the ice regularly in the Sabres favor in all three zones. Moreover, they are being trusted with ice time in critical moments and zone starts, whether the Sabres are down, or up.

Whatever line or role Benson is playing, he is not being wasted. He is either influencing, or helping to influence, play in a positive direction.

To the board, not just you:
It's 3 games, against 3 different teams, so far this season. I'm fine "waiting" to mess with lines until after all 12 dressed forwards play a full 60 minutes (or their share of them). If all 12 forwards, regardless of who those 12 are, are playing for 60 minutes, or nearly 60 minutes, and the Sabres are getting no results for a bunch of games in a row, I'll gladly entertain a shuffling of lines. If Don Granato wants to mix things up sooner, fine by him.
 
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The baffling thing through the last 2 games is the Buffalo Sabres playing successful defensive hockey. Something people said this roster and coach could never do.
 
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toddkaz said:
Benson on the third line is wasted.
Skinner-Tage-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Krebs(doesn't deserve the spot. Quinn takes it when returns)
Greenway-Mitts-Benson
Girgs-Jost-Okposo

I also think Mitts and Benson could get some chemistry going. I would have liked to see Benson on the first line last night.. I remember last year Tuch could drive offense on his own line when he was moved away from Tage.

Krebs is a black hole out there and Benson will get sucked in.

The other option is to sign Kane when he is healthy and ship Olofsson and Krebs out for picks although I am not sure we would get much. Krebs could probably get us a solid 5-6 defender.
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I’d change it to

Skinner-Tage-Benson
Peterka-Cozens-Tuch
Greenway-Mitts-Girgs/Jost/Okposo
Krebs centering 2 of Girgs/Jost/Okposo/Olofsson

I don’t want Mitts snd Krebs on same line
 
Djp said:
I’d change it to

Skinner-Tage-Benson
Peterka-Cozens-Tuch
Greenway-Mitts-Girgs/Jost/Okposo
Krebs centering 2 of Girgs/Jost/Okposo/Olofsson

I don’t want Mitts snd Krebs on same line
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That lineup is really missing Quinn. Not sure Kane would be a good pickup or not.
 
I don't see Patrick Kane joining Buffalo and thinking the best way for me to re-find my game on a resurfaced hip joint while playing in front of home town fans is to embrace the Sabres 2023-24 newly-instilled commitment to 200' of team defense. It would be akin to asking a similar-aged (35yo in 1982) Elton John to stop wearing flamboyant costumes and switch genres to rap music. It ain't gonna be natural.
 
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