Roster Thread (2023-2024 Season)

[Ehran]

Mitts

He does have 74 assists over the past 1.5 seasons.

 

[Zman5778]

Bruins looking into Girgs and Okposo for playoffs ?

If this is accurate...and if Boston is showing interest in Zem and KO................

I mean.....if Boston is showing interest in our veterans, doesn't that say a whole lot about the way they play? And how a Stanley Cup contender sees a place for them on their roster????

And yet some here can't wait to shove them out the door????

 

[5 Minute Major]

If this is accurate...and if Boston is showing interest in Zem and KO................

I mean.....if Boston is showing interest in our veterans, doesn't that say a whole lot about the way they play? And how a Stanley Cup contender sees a place for them on their roster????

And yet some here can't wait to shove them out the door????

I’m good with Z staying.

I’ll pack Okposo’s bags and drive him to the airport.

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

Mitts:

I want him resigned. He's finally the player we hoped for. If he gets traded, at least Adams would be selling high. The return better be good, e.g. the main pieces are him and an extended Hanifin.

Girgs, Okposo:

Let them make the decision about going to playoff contenders. They've both been stalwart soldiers for this miserable organization. They've earned their say.

EJ:

Same as above. I suspect this is his final season, and the fire in the belly isn't there for a late-season move to another team. Unlike G and OK, he has his Cup.

 

[Mattilaus]

If this is accurate...and if Boston is showing interest in Zem and KO................

I mean.....if Boston is showing interest in our veterans, doesn't that say a whole lot about the way they play? And how a Stanley Cup contender sees a place for them on their roster????

And yet some here can't wait to shove them out the door????

Just because an organization is a winning one, doesn't mean they make no mistakes. There is also a difference between bringing in an aging out vet to be stable depth at the bottom of the roster and relying upon that same vet to be the leader of your troops and current getting #1 PP time. Boston needs less out of Okposo than we do in order to be successful. Boston also plays a slower grindier game.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

If this is accurate...and if Boston is showing interest in Zem and KO................

I mean.....if Boston is showing interest in our veterans, doesn't that say a whole lot about the way they play? And how a Stanley Cup contender sees a place for them on their roster????

And yet some here can't wait to shove them out the door????

At this point, no one should be shamed for wanting anyone to be shown the door on this shit team, in this shit org. Especially guys who have been here through years of constant losing, answering the same damn questions over and over again. I'm just tired of looking at their pouting faces year after year.

These were the captains and leaders who allowed the team to be unprepared to start literally every game. Good captains hold their team accountable, and they failed at that. Dahlin has too.

I think people would also like to see them have success elsewhere too. No one thinks they're the reason the team sucks every year, but they sure haven't helped the team win.

 

[debaser66]

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What happened to Friedmann, did he have the Better Call Saul makover?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Friedmann just said that Buffalo is trying to trade prospects but the only one that people want, Kulich is untouchable. That is absolutely insane to me. Adams sucks so bad, this team will never have success with him.

Why does Pegula hate experienced NHL managers? We all know why...anyone who is good has a choice, and no one with a choice will work with the irrational, dumb ass owner and accept his meddling and overall role. I hate that man so much.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Friedmann just said that Buffalo is trying to trade prospects but the only one that people want, Kulich is untouchable. That is absolutely insane to me. Adams sucks so bad, this team will never have success with him.

Why does Pegula hate experienced NHL managers? We all know why...anyone who is good has a choice, and no one with a choice will work with the irrational, dumb ass owner and accept his meddling and overall role. I hate that man so much.

1. I call BS that Kulich is the only one people want. Savoie may be 4th or so on our prospect list, but he would be #1 by leaps and bounds for many organizations.

2. Kulich being untouchable is so incredibly stupid if true. However, I’m guessing it’s slightly more nuanced than that.

3. Friedman knows nothing so all of this is likely coming out of thin air.

 

[Zman5778]

Friedmann just said that Buffalo is trying to trade prospects but the only one that people want, Kulich is untouchable. That is absolutely insane to me. Adams sucks so bad, this team will never have success with him.

Why does Pegula hate experienced NHL managers? We all know why...anyone who is good has a choice, and no one with a choice will work with the irrational, dumb ass owner and accept his meddling and overall role. I hate that man so much.

There is ZERO chance that Kulich is the only prospect that other teams want. And my guess is that Kulich is "untouchable" in trades where draft picks or other prospects of Kulich's ilk are the primary return.

If Kulich really is "untouchable" for an NHL upgrade, that's beyond stupid -- it's so beyond stupid that I actually don't believe it. And it's EF reporting it, so it makes me not believe it more -- he has no legit Sabres source.

 

[Chainshot]

Friedmann just said that Buffalo is trying to trade prospects but the only one that people want, Kulich is untouchable. That is absolutely insane to me. Adams sucks so bad, this team will never have success with him.

Why does Pegula hate experienced NHL managers? We all know why...anyone who is good has a choice, and no one with a choice will work with the irrational, dumb ass owner and accept his meddling and overall role. I hate that man so much.

Or that the only team(s) EF has spoken to have said they asked for Kulich and were turned down flat. It's not like he has ever had much success breaking anything that Buffalo were doing.

Agree on the rest - who wants someone putting their nose into things. Or even just the reputation of what he may or may not have done thus far is going to make people loathe to work for the team.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

1. I call BS that Kulich is the only one people want. Savoie may be 4th or so on our prospect list, but he would be #1 by leaps and bounds for many organizations.

2. Kulich being untouchable is so incredibly stupid if true. However, I’m guessing it’s slightly more nuanced than that.

3. Friedman knows nothing so all of this is likely coming out of thin air.

There is ZERO chance that Kulich is the only prospect that other teams want. And my guess is that Kulich is "untouchable" in trades where draft picks or other prospects of Kulich's ilk are the primary return.

If Kulich really is "untouchable" for an NHL upgrade, that's beyond stupid -- it's so beyond stupid that I actually don't believe it. And it's EF reporting it, so it makes me not believe it more -- he has no legit Sabres source.

Yes, that was just me being hyperbolic...agree with you both, but if he's the one that brings the most teams to the table, you HAVE to use him. Especially since he's a winger.

If I'm making anyone untouchable it's Ostlund, but that's just me. I trade wingers all day for roster fixes, and try not to touch any centers or RHD.

 

[toddkaz]

What worries me is trading Mitts like we did Reinhart and it comes back to bite us.

Reinhart hadn't reached his potential and good chance Mittelstadt still has a little more to go.

Would hate to see him hit 80 points on another team and we end up being desperate for a 2-3C

Doesn't really make sense.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

The reason why Friedmann doesn't break anything is because there's nothing to break. No one ever has any scoops on Buffalo because they don't do anything.

I believe all of his scoops that he's had on Buffalo the past year: I do believe him when he said we went hard after Pesce, for instance. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean he' was wrong.

People get so triggered when you mention any media member having any information on Buffalo. HE STINKS, HE NEVER BREAKS NEWS. Guess what -- he definitely does, and does it regularly, and more than most. Time to step outside your confirmation bias for a minute.

There literally isn't one member of the media who I can post on without everyone jumping in and immediately dismissing everything they say. It's such a histrionic homer attitude imo.

 

[Zman5778]

There literally isn't one member of the media who I can post on without everyone jumping in and immediately dismissing everything they say. It's such a histrionic homer attitude imo.

It isn't just here on this board. PLENTY of other teams' fans feel the same way about a number of national media. Friedman, Dreger, Weekes, Pagnotta, etc.

I think the only national media members that are generally "trusted" are LeBrun, McKenzie, maybe Goldman and Lavoie.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

What worries me is trading Mitts like we did Reinhart and it comes back to bite us.

Reinhart hadn't reached his potential and good chance Mittelstadt still has a little more to go.

Would hate to see him hit 80 points on another team and we end up being desperate for a 2-3C

Doesn't really make sense.

How much you payin Casey? Because ya dude, if he survived his time in Buffalo he’s bound to be better elsewhere. Dude got fed to the wolves his first year, sent down once his confidence was washed, got hurt, got hurt some more, fought through that fluke stuff and is now a real solid player. And we’re gonna let him go while we pay others 8 mil+ to find inventive ways to f*** up, cool.

 

[toddkaz]

How much you payin Casey? Because ya dude, if he survived his time in Buffalo he’s bound to be better elsewhere. Dude got fed to the wolves his first year, sent down once his confidence was washed, got hurt, got hurt some more, fought through that fluke stuff and is now a real solid player. And we’re gonna let him go while we pay others 8 mil+ to find inventive ways to f*** up, cool.

Injuries and rushing him definitely hurt his development that being said how much is he worth? 6-7m? thats doable in my eyes.

Has Casey said he wants to be here? Maybe he doesn't want to sign long term

 

[Chainshot]

The reason why Friedmann doesn't break anything is because there's nothing to break. No one ever has any scoops on Buffalo because they don't do anything.

I believe all of his scoops that he's had on Buffalo the past year: I do believe him when he said we went hard after Pesce, for instance. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean he' was wrong.

People get so triggered when you mention any media member having any information on Buffalo. HE STINKS, HE NEVER BREAKS NEWS. Guess what -- he definitely does, and does it regularly, and more than most. Time to step outside your confirmation bias for a minute.

There literally isn't one member of the media who I can post on without everyone jumping in and immediately dismissing everything they say. It's such a histrionic homer attitude imo.

I think what he breaks about Buffalo is from talking to a wide range of folks and getting things through agents and other front office types who go off the record with him. Some of that stuff never comes to pass but he does paint a picture that they've tried to address some needs and it's not hard to think that he's gotten that info from being in communication with folks Adams has tried to deal with.

It wasn't meant as an indictment of his body of work - EF's still more plugged in that most and so it warrants paying attention to what he's saying. Similarly, he's said Buffalo has been asked about Tuch and rebuffed teams that are asking. That also tracks.

Circling back to a question I have had most of the year - what is the plan with Kulich? When he was playing well-ish before going to the U20's, he was at center, though his defensive game at 5-on-5 was not something he was excelling at yet. When he came back, he went in the middle for a little, then Appert admitted that the future is probably on the wing, put him back at the wing, and now he's out day-to-day. I don't see a consistent development plan there. He's got a big shot and has some ability to produce goals against his peers when the pressure is on. He's quietly competitive, seems pretty intense, but isn't particularly physical in a traditional sense. He's not big - downright average sized - and do they think he's a center or do they think he's a winger and when will he hit measures to get more than a nibble at the NHL level?

(None of that is a shot at you, just riffing that if Kulich is the ask, then what is the offer and then further, what is the outcome of how they are trying to develop him.)

 

[Old Navy Goat]

I look at Kulich as a middle 6 winger that will get you 20g+ a season, be a PP asset with a questionable defensive game. Basically a more engaged Olofsson but no one irreplaceable. Saying that, he isn't a throw-in for a trade unless part of a package for a big fish

 

[OkimLom]

What worries me is trading Mitts like we did Reinhart and it comes back to bite us.

Reinhart hadn't reached his potential and good chance Mittelstadt still has a little more to go.

Would hate to see him hit 80 points on another team and we end up being desperate for a 2-3C

Doesn't really make sense.

When did trading Reinhart come back to bite us? We got a future potential high quality starter. We don't have a hole in our top 6 with Reinhart leaving.

Sure it stinks that Reinhart has been more productive since leaving, but that's the "risk" when a better team than yours trades, for one of your guys.

For an organization that has had a weakness of coaching since 2013 (also coming up on 11 year anniversary of Ruff being let go next Tuesday), and one could say even longer, a lot of players have had a case of players playing better and being more productive when they moved on from us. It's not something that is new.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I look at Kulich as a middle 6 winger that will get you 20g+ a season, be a PP asset with a questionable defensive game. Basically a more engaged Olofsson but no one irreplaceable. Saying that, he isn't a throw-in for a trade unless part of a package for a big fish

I know looks can be decieving with regards to effort, but one of the big differences between the two is that Kulich LOOKS like he works harder than Oloffson on a shift by shift basis. I value him highly, just don't see a spot on the team in the short or medium term.

So yeah, not anywhere near a throw-in. He's a big piece for someone out there.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Friedmann just said that Buffalo is trying to trade prospects but the only one that people want, Kulich is untouchable. That is absolutely insane to me. Adams sucks so bad, this team will never have success with him.

I don’t know how you could possibly believe anything with the premise of “Kulich is the only prospect people want.” That doesn’t even make sense


But I agree he is not untouchable. Savoie, Kulich, Rosen, and Ostlund are all major prospect chips that need to be in the table.

And the whole NHL roster should be on the table for a hockey trade. Though Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, Thompson, and Cozens are excluded for obvious reasons.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

It's kind of funny that last season Reinhart was pretty meh for Florida, producing basically at the same rate as here. This year he took off with really no change to his game, just more pucks are going in

 

[Chainshot]

It's kind of funny that last season Reinhart was pretty meh for Florida, producing basically at the same rate as here. This year he took off with really no change to his game, just more pucks are going in

Part of it is his PP production. He's got that drag move around the net, the step out, and has always been pretty good at deflections. Florida has adapted to the reduced power of the one-timer off the wing to play to their strength with a couple of guys who produce well around the crease in him and Tkachuk.

 

[Tatanka]

I don’t know how you could possibly believe anything with the premise of “Kulich is the only prospect people want.” That doesn’t even make sense


But I agree he is not untouchable. Savoie, Kulich, Rosen, and Ostlund are all major prospect chips that need to be in the table.

And the whole NHL roster should be on the table for a hockey trade. Though Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, Thompson, and Cozens are excluded for obvious reasons.

Why are those mentioned excluded?