If I 'm Zemgus I would want to go to some playoff bounded team. Pegula or not. He can come back next season for cheap if he wants.
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Youre probably only talking about adding ~10 goals if that to the overall total last season if Samson was on the roster because you would be losing goals from other player.
Beerz
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Wait... why are you projecting Reinharts goals this year onto to our team last year? .. He scored 31 last year on a Stanley Cup finalist team.
You're doing your best.. ill give you that
Ace
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I’m not going to get deep into this hypothetical past this post…but yeah…Reinhart playing on a team that scored as much as this one did would make it easy to project a great productive year. What’s more…it forces two giant improvements.
1. It lets Mitts play with a better linemate wherever Reinhart sits in the lines. We saw what he became when his linemates improved. A whole year of that? Yeah it helps.
2. Since Olofsson was the one scratched after Greenway came it is safe to assume they don’t sign him if Reinhart is here. Replace his defensive liabilities and the black hole that sucked in his linemates all year with a player like Samson? Yeah it helps.
On the other hand. Saying the players we got back for him didn’t help is a bit disingenuous. Levi backstopped ten out of a possible fourteen points when they couldn’t trust Comrie or UPL to play. And Anderson physically couldn’t.
So yes. It would have helped. Maybe it even shakes out as enough to win one more game. But maybe Comrie and UPL allow 6 goals every game for the last two weeks and they miss anyway.
1. It lets Mitts play with a better linemate wherever Reinhart sits in the lines. We saw what he became when his linemates improved. A whole year of that? Yeah it helps.
2. Since Olofsson was the one scratched after Greenway came it is safe to assume they don’t sign him if Reinhart is here. Replace his defensive liabilities and the black hole that sucked in his linemates all year with a player like Samson? Yeah it helps.
On the other hand. Saying the players we got back for him didn’t help is a bit disingenuous. Levi backstopped ten out of a possible fourteen points when they couldn’t trust Comrie or UPL to play. And Anderson physically couldn’t.
So yes. It would have helped. Maybe it even shakes out as enough to win one more game. But maybe Comrie and UPL allow 6 goals every game for the last two weeks and they miss anyway.
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The original premise was about trading Reinhart biting us in the ass. I responded that it didn't, and you have yet to show how it bit us in the ass. Trading Reinhart and having it bite us back wouldve been more true if say Levi decided to not sign his ELC and go to free agency after his college years, with the addition of the 1st round pick busting or refusing to not play for Buffalo.
Im a fan of Sam, and I would love for him to be on the team, but he didn’t want to stick around for the rebuild and so you get what you can for a player in that situation and Buffalo made out at least well.
For all we know, those 45-50 goals (not sure why you chose those numbers) could’ve came in the blowouts we won, which wouldn’t have mattered for us to make the playoffs. its not a guarantee that we make the playoffs even with Reinhart‘s scoring. Shoot we only had a chance to sniff the playoffs because of Levi’s play at the end of the season.
His style of play ensures that he doesn't..... lol
Stand to the side the net. Do not block shots. Let your opponent beat you to the puck. Reluctantly engage physically. Stand around and watch the play as it develops...
At least that works for me in my beer league....knock on wood
Doug Prishpreed
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The instigator guys brought up Kadri earlier in the season and I thought it was the dumbest idea I’d ever heard, with that crazy contract. After watching this team in 2024 I’ve totally switched my tune.
This is the trade they put on the table that for once I totally support. God, I’d love this so much now.
Mitts + Savoie + Clifton/Joki
For
Weegar + Kadri.
This is the trade they put on the table that for once I totally support. God, I’d love this so much now.
Mitts + Savoie + Clifton/Joki
For
Weegar + Kadri.
sabremike
THE RED BULL
chi777
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Does anyone really think that our intrepid GM and his one single pro scout are enough to outwit all the other GMs in the league and get a decent return for Mitts, Girgs, our prospects or any of the other stuff we're trying to move?
And how terrified are you if you are a player on some other team that you might end up in Buffalo? It would be like being forced into a nightmare. Do you think that coaches of other teams hold the threat of being traded to Buffalo sort of like parents might threaten kids with the evil Santa, Krumpus? "if you don't play hard, we'll send you'll end up in Buffalo!!".
And how terrified are you if you are a player on some other team that you might end up in Buffalo? It would be like being forced into a nightmare. Do you think that coaches of other teams hold the threat of being traded to Buffalo sort of like parents might threaten kids with the evil Santa, Krumpus? "if you don't play hard, we'll send you'll end up in Buffalo!!".
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Tough to say no with Weegar in there.
I'd have to see Kadri buyout numbers because I think his contract runs until he's Joe Bidens age
Kadri is 33 years old now. He'll be 34 before the start of next season.
Assume you buy him out in 2026:
The guy had one great offensive year and cashed in on it. He's 33 with 5 more years @ $7M cap hit. His offensive numbers dropped by 1/3 after he signed that big contract, and no reason to think he's going to bounce back. (so far he hasn't this year so.... )
EDIT: Weegar is 30. First year of an 8 year deal at $6.25M per year. What are the odds of his making his contract a value add after year 3 or 4?
Doug Prishpreed
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I really don’t care. I still would prefer watching them for a few years and then buy out the Kadri contract, which isn’t bad at all, for a buyout. I want to watch a team that takes the game seriously.
I think Weegar will be worth the contract the entire way through. It’s not all that old for a good Dman like him at all.
The buyout numbers aren’t bad at all, using the cap friendly site. I think it’s because he’d be 37 when the contract ends, that uses a differnt calculation.
If you buy him out at 35, it’s like two years at $2.3 or something like that.
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I think Weegar will age ok... I say he has another 5 years of good play.
6.25 is pretty cheap
They're in a bit of a no-man's-land with the need to have high performing vets in the 25-28 year old range but no teams are moving those sort of guys at the moment while the folks at the 30-year old barrier are often tied up on ridiculously risky contract.
Weegar would be a potential graceful fix to what they need on the blueline. Take the 4-ish years of likely good play and deal with a fall-off after year 4 or 5, ya'know, like good teams do.
People are so quick to throw out "I'm okay with buying out...." but lets be realistic.
What in Pegula's history makes anyone think its conceivable that he's going to agree to paying someone millions of $$ to not play hockey?
Pipe dreams just set everyone up for frustration.
What in Pegula's history makes anyone think its conceivable that he's going to agree to paying someone millions of $$ to not play hockey?
Pipe dreams just set everyone up for frustration.
Mattilaus
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Honestly, we shouldn't be letting potential cap problems in 5 years stop us from improving now. Keep drafting well and in 5 years our young kids will be seasoned, they can carry the team and we can use ELCs to plug holes. Then we can manage a couple bad contracts. Every team has a few. If not, we can trade away the bad contracts to basement dwelling teams for a 3rd or a 2nd when they have 2 years left.
Tired of hearing we can't improve now because it MIGHT put us in a bad spot in 5 years.
Tired of hearing we can't improve now because it MIGHT put us in a bad spot in 5 years.
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This season is shot
Only favorable trade is with another team whose season is shot for a change of scenary trade
I have zero faith in this type of trade
Trading with a contender yields magic beans and injured players for help now.
Otherwise wait till offseason
Only favorable trade is with another team whose season is shot for a change of scenary trade
I have zero faith in this type of trade
Trading with a contender yields magic beans and injured players for help now.
Otherwise wait till offseason
Doug Prishpreed
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Yes, it’s completely unrealistic that this team will ever be good under Pegula. So I can’t talk about things that would make the team better because it sets you up for disappointment?
Dude, get outta here with this nonsense. It’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Putting you on ignore.
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