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Roster Thread (2023-2024 Season)

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BFLO said:
Remember when Tim Murray and Bylsma got fired for dropping from an 81 point team to 78 in year 2 of being together?

Adams and Donnie are on pace to drop from 91 to 77 in year 3.5 and there's no expectation of change.
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Murray deserved to be fired for not firing and moving on from a coach that wasn’t interested in developing/coaching the roster. That’s like any business not moving on from a manager that isn’t interested in managing a company.

This is coming from probably the only person on these boards that was completely fine with the majority of his roster moves even with the flaws.
 
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OkimLom said:
Murray deserved to be fired for not firing and moving on from a coach that wasn’t interested in developing/coaching the roster. That’s like any business not moving on from a manager that isn’t interested in managing a company.

This is coming from probably the only person on these boards that was completely fine with the majority of his roster moves even with the flaws.
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Good thing Adams has that great coaching situation settled and in his back pocket.
 
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BuffaloMango said:
That would be an easier pill to swallow if Mitts hadn’t publicly said the Sabres had not yet even begun talks about an extension.
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It’s my favorite part of this. They waited on Mittelstadt’s development and he became a good player…certainly their most consistent despite this disaster of a season…and he’s out there begging to sign and saying he doesn’t want to leave when they bring up trade rumors.

And captain “we want players who want to be here” doesn’t talk to him.

Follow the money and look forward to a cheap plug taking his spot while we wait for a teenager to take it.
 
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Ace said:
It’s my favorite part of this. They waited on Mittelstadt’s development and he became a good player…certainly their most consistent despite this disaster of a season…and he’s out there begging to sign and saying he doesn’t want to leave when they bring up trade rumors.

And captain “we want players who want to be here” doesn’t talk to him.

Follow the money and look forward to a cheap plug taking his spot while we wait for a teenager to take it.
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I think part is ego and part is he’d have to admit defeat on what he sold Pegula on. And that’s efficient spending and build through the draft.

Adams can’t go back on that because when he asked for the money it was based on long term economics. It’s the base layer of his stupid house of cards he sold Terry and Terry sold us.

If he signed Mitts only to trade Cozens/Power next year he might as well drop his letter of resignation on Terry’s desk. 80% of what he’s asked to do is not fork up the money.
 
OkimLom said:
Murray deserved to be fired for not firing and moving on from a coach that wasn’t interested in developing/coaching the roster. That’s like any business not moving on from a manager that isn’t interested in managing a company.

This is coming from probably the only person on these boards that was completely fine with the majority of his roster moves even with the flaws.
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One of his assistants leaked stuff to the press. He refused to fire thst person so he got fired.
 
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BFLO said:
Remember when Tim Murray and Bylsma got fired for dropping from an 81 point team to 78 in year 2 of being together?

Adams and Donnie are on pace to drop from 91 to 77 in year 3.5 and there's no expectation of change.
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But that’s not why they were fired and you know that. They’d still be here if Murray didn’t drink and curse so much, and kissed the Pegula’s ass like the present group does.
 
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Pagnotta reporting Sabres AGM took in consecutively be Bruins games. Can't imagine who they are targeting.
 
truthbluth said:
Pagnotta reporting Sabres AGM took in consecutively be Bruins games. Can't imagine who they are targeting.
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I don't mean this tongue in cheek. There is a non-zero chance that there are people in this org who might attend a Bruins game or two just to see how a real NHL hockey is played.

Worth noting they played Vancouver and the Washington. The Canucks are no joke and Washington with Ovi is 6 points back on Tampa with 2 games in hand.

Both these games were real 2 life NHL Teams playing. Where as when you go to a Sabres game you only get to see 1. But that is only if the other team actually tries.
 
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truthbluth said:
Pagnotta reporting Sabres AGM took in consecutively be Bruins games. Can't imagine who they are targeting.
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Not necessarily targeting, but scouting in general. With the lack of an actual scouting department, a lot of the guys in management pull triple, sometimes quadruple duty to help save Pegula money on the budget. I’d be willing to bet Adams still has some duties he’s supposed to do at Harbor Center, like refilling the straws or napkins.
 
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elchud said:
Don't think we can afford 4 forwards over 7 million a year...and Mitts has made the case to make 7million plus as our best forward. Gotta move Cozens or Mitts.
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yes we can.

looking ahead for 25/26 .. lets assume we have a $91M cap

If you split is by 4/7 for 14F and 3/7 for G/D thats a 52/39 split

For F--
say 4 f avg $8M cap foe 32M (Skinner, Tage, Mitts, Cozens)
say 6 F are on ELC/$1M for $6M total (Benson, Kulich, Savoie, Ostlund, Rosen, another F)
that leave $13M for 4F (tuck 4.75, say JPP and Quinn get 2 yr bridges at $3.5M each, another player for 1.25M)
the team could go just 13F and take that 1.25 and then the 1.5M left for 6F and and residual from the top 4 and pool that to resign Greenway at $3M per

for D and G for $39M
Sam, Power, Clifton, Dahlin at $27M
RyJo $2M
RD $4.5M
UPL $3.5M
Levi $2M

In 26/27 you have Benson ending his ELC, Clifton replaced by an ELC prospect, Tuch resigned using most of clifton cap space). the cap increase should cover Benson bridge and an ELC replacement

you can similarly do this if you think the bottom 9, bottom 5F, back G, and 6/7 Dman make up about $11M in space).

the rest gets split 60/40 for 9F, 5D, 1 G

with $90M cap thats $80M for those 15 players that include some ELCs

summer 2027 skinner comes off and cap increase goes to bridges/ELCs ending (Levi, JPP, Quinn, Savoie, Ostlund, Kulich, RyJo, others)

Of course you might not have those players and may trade some for other positions.


The cap will be tight

Im fine trading one of those 3F for a younger RD who can be a solid mid pair filling that $4M or so role i have listed for 2026 summer. guy and then Ostlund replaces Tage/Cozens/Mitts at one of the center roles.

In 2026 and 2027 they could decide among their young F and trade some for picks/prospects and pay some of them more
 
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