Roster Thread (2023-2024 Season)

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I dont even know what I'd want in a return for Mitts. I want a better bottom 6 and I want the defense to play better in their own end. But I've been predicting this for 2 years now, Mitts has been the odd man out for a couple seasons. Id rather keep mitts and trade prospects to build a third line that plays a better style of hockey but Id trade mitts if it was for a player who was better at the center responsibilities especially d zone and faceoffs. I'd have to hope they find a way to get that 2/3 responsible defender to take some abuse off Sammy. Maybe they can do a double and trade Joker for a good 50 point defensively responsible center who is a +50% at the dot, then trade Mitts for that mature, defensive stalwart for the top 4.

But f*** me if they trade Mitts for some bullshit over the hill goaltender. I might burn stuff
 
So you sign Thompson, you sign Cozens, you sign Dahlin, you sign Power, to longer term deals to show a commitment to the players, and yet you are shopping or refusing to want to pay a RFA, who by all accounts is well liked in the room from vets and younger players, and fits nicely with the age of players, is probably your most complete forward for the past two seasons...IF TRUE, and I stress this, IF TRUE, that's how you keep yourself a non-desired place to play. 1 step forward, 2 steps back with this organization.

For the record, I don't believe a damn word any of the "journalists" say who's job relies on clicks and creating a "buzz" to stay employed.
 
It would be cap related not Pegula related.

Itd be very difficult to move forward with 3 Cs making 7mil each and a W making 9mil when it comes to Peterka and Quinn

It's even more difficult when you don't actually spend to the cap, as has been the case for the last two years. Keep drinking the Pegula Flavour Aid. Someone explain to me why this team wouldn't spend a nickel of real dollars and use its cap room at the deadline last year. It was easy picking for mid-round picks. Explain to me, after 12 years of no playoffs, how we are $8 M under the cap and couldn't sign a couple of one-year deals.
The franchise is becoming a joke.

They literally cut the audio clip off at the point where he was about to announce which goalie he'd heard / was speculating about. Cheap cliffhanger stunt to get clicks on their podcast.

Gibson
 
So you sign Thompson, you sign Cozens, you sign Dahlin, you sign Power, to longer term deals to show a commitment to the players, and yet you are shopping or refusing to want to pay a RFA, who by all accounts is well liked in the room from vets and younger players, and fits nicely with the age of players, is probably your most complete forward for the past two seasons...IF TRUE, and I stress this, IF TRUE, that's how you keep yourself a non-desired place to play. 1 step forward, 2 steps back with this organization.

For the record, I don't believe a damn word any of the "journalists" say who's job relies on clicks and creating a "buzz" to stay employed.
Yes, it could be biased. But the nature of the Pegula years through multiple GMs has been crazy spending moves (Leino, Skinner, Krueger) and then sudden shifts like making sure to get rid of Ryan O'Reilly one day before a bonus is due and destroying his value. The whole management of the team is like having no management.
 
So you sign Thompson, you sign Cozens, you sign Dahlin, you sign Power, to longer term deals to show a commitment to the players, and yet you are shopping or refusing to want to pay a RFA, who by all accounts is well liked in the room from vets and younger players, and fits nicely with the age of players, is probably your most complete forward for the past two seasons...IF TRUE, and I stress this, IF TRUE, that's how you keep yourself a non-desired place to play. 1 step forward, 2 steps back with this organization.

For the record, I don't believe a damn word any of the "journalists" say who's job relies on clicks and creating a "buzz" to stay employed.
i think its important to say at some point that cap decisions get made

and as 1 of those journalists pointed out if you are going to make a cap decision with Mitts you should probably trade him before putting him in a position where he has to be the guy who doesnt get paid
 
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It's even more difficult when you don't actually spend to the cap, as has been the case for the last two years. Keep drinking the Pegula Flavour Aid. Someone explain to me why this team wouldn't spend a nickel of real dollars and use its cap room at the deadline last year. It was easy picking for mid-round picks. Explain to me, after 12 years of no playoffs, how we are $8 M under the cap and couldn't sign a couple of one-year deals.
The franchise is becoming a joke.

Why isn't it possible they didn't find any pieces at the deadline last year that they wanted and didn't already get or had already been dealt? They targeted Chychrun but Arizona took less than our offer. We acquired Greenway and Stillman. We supposedly were in on Wilson and Jensen from Washington but both got extensions. Just because there was open money doesn't mean that it must be spent entirely to get multiple rentals. Adams deemed the team not quite ready to go after rentals and chose not to target expiring UFAs.

As for this offseason, they re signed guys and had only 1 or 2 spots left in totality on offense. Could he have signed other vets, sure, but he was banking on growth from our present team for better or worse.
 
Imagine Adams bringing in Kuznetsov, a player with a substance abuse problem. Sure, you'd get a 1st line center. But what does that do to the bevy of kids in the locker room?

Murray did that three times over: Kane, Bogosian, and Lehner. One troublemaker who was a bad example of a pro, one lazy player who got along on physical gifts, and a player with a substance abuse problem.

Virtually everyone Adams brings in has been to set a culture example. In the long run, that'll led to a lot more winning than the short-term gratification of just bringing someone in.
Kuznetsov isn't first line center.
 
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Kulich is scratched tonight in Rochester.

We’re at an amazing vortex where I genuinely don’t know what the most likely reason is. Sick or hurt? call up? Trade? Hasn’t scored a goal since the Truman administration?

Place your bets.
 
Kulich is scratched tonight in Rochester.

We’re at an amazing vortex where I genuinely don’t know what the most likely reason is. Sick or hurt? call up? Trade? Hasn’t scored a goal since the Truman administration?

Place your bets.

Per Appert, Kulich is day-to-day right now.
 
Absolutely zero teams would buy out a 30+ goal scorer ... where do you even come up with this BS?
If Skinner was slotted down the lineup where he belongs and off the top pp unit, he wouldn't be a 30 goal scorer. At that point the majority of teams would. He is given favorable scoring opportunities at the expense of team structure. I cried the day the Sabres re upped him. I didn’t cry at my parents funerals.
 
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If Skinner was slotted down the lineup where he belongs and off the top pp unit, he wouldn't be a 30 goal scorer. At that point the majority of teams would. He is given favorable scoring opportunities at the expense of team structure. I cried the day the Sabres re upped him. I didn’t cry at my parents funerals.

If Tage Thompson was slotted down the line up he wouldn't be either. If Dylan Cozens was slotted down the line up he wouldn't be either. Goal scorers are slotted where they are because they score goals.

This doesn't even make sense.
 
Skinner wouldn't sniff top 9 minutes on a playoff team. He doesn't do enough to make a team a playoff team. He is a one way selfish player who pads stats. It was evident when Krueger said play d or sit. Meatballs lets him do as he pleases bc they can't get rid of him.
 
If Skinner was slotted down the lineup where he belongs and off the top pp unit, he wouldn't be a 30 goal scorer. At that point the majority of teams would. He is given favorable scoring opportunities at the expense of team structure. I cried the day the Sabres re upped him. I didn’t cry at my parents funerals.
How is he given favorable scoring opportunities? If there’s one thing he’s good at, it’s creating opportunities for himself. When he’s on, he’s usually a guy leading the transition up the ice.

i have no problem thinking he’s a streaky goal scorer. I take no issue with thinking he’s terrible defensively. heck, if you want to call him inconsistent, That’s fair. But to say he is given opportunities is wrong.

and finally, if there was a thing about Skinner that’s been known for years, he’s shown he can score goals with an assortment of player talent levels.
 
Skinner wouldn't sniff top 9 minutes on a playoff team. He doesn't do enough to make a team a playoff team. He is a one way selfish player who pads stats. It was evident when Krueger said play d or sit. Meatballs lets him do as he pleases bc they can't get rid of him.
Whatever.. you're changing the argument. I said no team is going to buy out a 30+ goal scorer... you're making up some hypothetical where he isn't a 30+ goal scorer... congrats.
 
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How is he given favorable scoring opportunities? If there’s one thing he’s good at, it’s creating opportunities for himself. When he’s on, he’s usually a guy leading the transition up the ice.

i have no problem thinking he’s a streaky goal scorer. I take no issue with thinking he’s terrible defensively. heck, if you want to call him inconsistent, That’s fair. But to say he is given opportunities is wrong.

and finally, if there was a thing about Skinner that’s been known for years, he’s shown he can score goals with an assortment of player talent levels.
Skinner wouldn't be putting up 30 wo pp time and certainly not on a 3rd line. We saw him down lineup. He was invisible. And he doesn't make anyone he plays with better. He is a self centered player.
 
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Whatever.. you're changing the argument. I said no team is going to buy out a 30+ goal scorer... you're making up some hypothetical where he isn't a 30+ goal scorer... congrats.
No he is not a 30 goal scorer on a good team because he wouldn't get the time. The Sabres have a guy like that in VO and can't give him away. So yeah smart teams would take the hit.
 
Skinner wouldn't be putting up 30 wo pp time and certainly not on a 3rd line. We saw him down lineup. He was invisible. And he doesn't make anyone he plays with better. He is a self centered player.
Jeff Skinner is like top 10 in 5v5 goal scoring for the past 8 to 10 years... this is ridiculous

No he is not a 30 goal scorer on a good team because he wouldn't get the time. The Sabres have a guy like that in VO and can't give him away. So yeah smart teams would take the hit.
Jesus Christ ..you're comparing Jeff Skinner to VO lol
 
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