I said 7 or 8 years because I was responding to your question about whether he's worth a long-term deal. The cap hit makes it worth it or not, it's not just term.
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I’ll echo 5x5 for Mitts. Feels like the perfect amount of commitment, and I think he’ll outperform that deal.
I could see Krebs not sticking around unless he’s willing to take a nice discount and accept being a role player.
I could see Krebs not sticking around unless he’s willing to take a nice discount and accept being a role player.
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It would be a funny bit if they never released the list, and we just needed to wait for players to score to hear their song. Would add some mystery/intrigue
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3 years is what I'd do for Mitts. Why would we go longer? I am extremely comfortable thinking we can replace him in 3 years, and I think he'd sign for 3 years if he wants to be here and that's what they're offering.
7 or 8 years make sense for your core, but why would we lock ourselves in that long with a secondary piece when we don't have to?
7 or 8 years make sense for your core, but why would we lock ourselves in that long with a secondary piece when we don't have to?
Sign him for six years, trade him after three or four. Bring back a nice haul if he has term left.
Doug Prishpreed
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You have to replace him with a center. None of the guys you listed play the same position as Mitts.
I see him as more of a middle-term commitment. He's somewhere between Pinto and Norris.
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I've said it before, but offer Mitts the Kotkanemi contract. 8 x $4.85m aav before he breaks out this year.
Doug Prishpreed
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That would probably work out well for Buffalo, like it. I'm skeptical he'd accept.
He's our Huala/Pinto, I thinks he compares pretty favorably to them two, all things considered. If we can upgrade, I'd be up for it though.
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The forward logjam makes me hesitant about where Mitts fits in long term. The solution to that is to make sure to avoid an NTC, or if one must be given, limit it and keep the list he can reject a trade to low. Tage and Cozens both have a 5 team no trade list, which is reasonable.
This way, if needed, they can move Mitts for salary relief or to open a spot if a prospect earns it, but until then, they still have a very useful player allowing them to roll 3 scoring lines.
This way, if needed, they can move Mitts for salary relief or to open a spot if a prospect earns it, but until then, they still have a very useful player allowing them to roll 3 scoring lines.
I don’t think they’re ready for it yet. They want to show this group that they believe in their talent, they’re a young group, and they can improve.So, this thread is a bit frustrating, in that there isn't a ton to speculate on. The needs are still the same that they were in the summer, and they showed minimal interest in fixing them. The only real obvious move is they'd probably move Olofsson for not alot. But after that...
1. They aren't going to get a goalie
2. They aren't going to add a two way forward (or any forward) unless there is a severe injury somewhere.
3. There seems to be little appetite for a core altering move.
Yes we can discuss how they could’ve dealt non rostered pieces that might not be a part of the future (Rosèn, Ostlund, UPL, etc etc). But it seems Adams really wants to hone in on the draft & develop method. At some point he’ll have to trade out some of that forward depth. But injuries, contract structures (elc’s sliding, etc) will help him to procrastinate that… probably for as long as he can unless they really struggle the first 30-40 games this year and they feel the need to make a change.
They’re giving a guy like Levi the opportunity to take the reins.
They’re giving Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson and even to a lesser extent Joki and opportunity to take the reins and be “the guys”.
They’re giving Cozens, Krebs, Peterka and now even Benson (to a lesser extent as he’ll likely get sent down after 9gp unless he REALLY takes over) an opportunity to develop more of a two-way game and add a different element to the forward group.
I understand the argument for getting guys to supplement all of those players i.e. a goalie like Gibson, a defenseman like Pesce, or even a forward like Backlund (obviously not now that he was extended.
At the same time, I do see what Adams & Granato are trying to do in letting this core group own their jobs, run this team, and carry them to the next level. It’s a challenge to the players and without having those above mentioned type of additions the players KNOW that the onus is on THEM to carry this team.
Any chance Krebs sees time on PP2?
I’m thinking for sure PP guys to open the season are…
Thompson
Skinner
Tuch
Cozens
Peterka
Mittelstadt
Benson
Greenway?
Dahlin
Power
Kind of answered it myself I guess… I think he’s the first guy to move to PP2 if there’s a forward injury? Maybe 2nd bc Olofsson.
I’m thinking for sure PP guys to open the season are…
Thompson
Skinner
Tuch
Cozens
Peterka
Mittelstadt
Benson
Greenway?
Dahlin
Power
Kind of answered it myself I guess… I think he’s the first guy to move to PP2 if there’s a forward injury? Maybe 2nd bc Olofsson.
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Olofsson will definitely be on one of the PP units Idk how Greenway would slot in over him or Krebs.
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There's no point in keeping Olofsson on the team if he doesn't even get PP time, his calling card is his shoot.
There is only Ostlund, who is the furthest off, or Krebs if he makes a jump. I don't think you can be very sure about either option before Mittelstadt needs a new deal. I'd rather get a new contract settled sooner, but only 7-8 years if it's around 6 mil AAV. If he passes Cozens in production this season prior to a new deal, KA will have to bump it past 7 mil AAV, or go shorter term.
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I didn't mean to be overly critical of you - it's just that I've seen this same arguement posted by a few people lately & it makes no sense what so ever.
Those players may well be gone... But they will be replaced by comparable players. IE heavily defensively orientated.
The only potential spot which might open up is if Mitts moves on. But I'd still bet on him being resigned.
Whichever way you draw it up, there simply isn't going to be room for a multitude of these young offensively orientated prospects. We (and more importantly Adams) needs to embrace the philosophy of moving on from them in order to help the team in other areas.
There is likely not room for more than 1 forward and 1 D prospect next year. Though I have a feeling one of Mitts or Krebs won't be around much longer. I would have tried to sell high on Kulich this offseason.
Mitts will not break out, and we have like 6 potential replacements for him. He will be about .5-/6 ppg, inevitably get injured and finish strong and everyone will say "Mitts breakout next year" like the last 3.
Bolded is the original point i was making in response to @Djp 's OP
And i still haven't got a response from him.
It's certainly possible that one or even both of Mitts/Krebs aren't around long term - but I wouldn't be at all surprised if both of them are.
I too, would have happily traded a Kulich away already if it had yielded another long term piece (such as Chychrun).
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This is so true.
If you could sign him for that I definitely would. I think 5X5 or 6X6 is more likely if they wanted to extend him.
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I'd argue he did breakout last year. He upped is PPG from around .5 to .72. That's a big time jump. He also showed a really strong two-way game, and proved he can play top-6/top line minutes effectively in a pinch. The fact he can be effective on the wing or at C is a big deal to me. He may be our modern-day Hecht.
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This is so true.
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