WC: Roster Talk '12 — Sweden

[sepHF]

He's playing in the AHL playoffs..so no.

durr... right.

 

[LiveeviL]

Hjalmarssons arrival makes me calm about the defense situation. Not sure I want Lundqvist and Hagelin over Karlsson and Silfverberg anymore.

The D is good, but Lundqvist can save the game even if everyone else decide to do a suck-routine. But seriously, the NYR-OTT series is pure win anyway.

 

[gretskidoo]

Thats just ridiculous . We just need a really good PP quarterback (Karlsson) and the defense will be good to go.

If Fernholm is even a possible for the roster.. We definitely need more than Karlsson.

 

[Nacho]

who ever is saying the swedish defense is good, needs to wake up. and wth isnt omark being used on the pp?

 

[joe89]

who ever is saying the swedish defense is good, needs to wake up. and wth isnt omark being used on the pp?

Ericsson and Hjalmarsson are not on the team yet and we're rolling 8 D's. Should be better anyway, but it's more a collective thing than individual.

The lines are rolling like usual on the PP, there's basically no active coaching at all since the players are fighting for the same final spots.

If Fernholm is even a possible for the roster.. We definitely need more than Karlsson.

He's a #7 at best, more like #8 or #9.
Karlsson/Stralman
Ericsson
Hedman
Hjalmarsson
Kronwall
Ekholm
Fernholm/Brodin/Frogren

 

[Dosing]

hopefully the dmen coming from nhl can adapt quick to big ice

 

[Nacho]

just terrible, no discipline at all

 

[thoves]

Can't compare today's lineup with the one in WC.

Ahneløv, Harju, Bång, Zackrisson, Omark, Lundh, Fernholm will probably all be gone by then.


Franzen-Zetterberg-Eriksson
Landeskog-Järnkrok-Silfverberg/Hagelin
Stålberg-Kruger-Alfredsson/Andersson
Persson-Lundqvist-Pettersson

Strålman/Karlsson-Hedman
Hjalmarsson-Ericsson
Ekholm-Kronwall
+Frögren and Brodin.

Enroth
Fasth

(maybe Lundqvist)


A faaaaaaar better squad than today. Hopefully!

 

[gretskidoo]

Can't compare today's lineup with the one in WC.

Ahneløv, Harju, Bång, Zackrisson, Omark, Lundh, Fernholm will probably all be gone by then.


Franzen-Zetterberg-Eriksson
Landeskog-Järnkrok-Silfverberg/Hagelin
Stålberg-Kruger-Alfredsson/Andersson
Persson-Lundqvist-Pettersson

Strålman/Karlsson-Hedman
Hjalmarsson-Ericsson
Ekholm-Kronwall
+Frögren and Brodin.

Enroth
Fasth

(maybe Lundqvist)


A faaaaaaar better squad than today. Hopefully!

Only if that 4th line gets less than 2 minutes a game. Such garbage players.

 

[Dosing]

god is it boring to watch them play teams like chezch and slovakia they even play worse sit on your a$$ hockey then färjestad...

 

[Nacho]

Can't compare today's lineup with the one in WC.

Ahneløv, Harju, Bång, Zackrisson, Omark, Lundh, Fernholm will probably all be gone by then.


Franzen-Zetterberg-Eriksson
Landeskog-Järnkrok-Silfverberg/Hagelin
Stålberg-Kruger-Alfredsson/Andersson
Persson-Lundqvist-Pettersson

Strålman/Karlsson-Hedman
Hjalmarsson-Ericsson
Ekholm-Kronwall
+Frögren and Brodin.

Enroth
Fasth

(maybe Lundqvist)


A faaaaaaar better squad than today. Hopefully!

one more time, its not about the players, there is no teamplay what so ever, how many od man rushes have sweden given up these last 3 games, ive lost count.

 

[thoves]

Yep, agree with you there. But they are the best 4-line players Sweden have at the moment. And I would think that they accept all the minutes they could get in a WC at homeground.

Edit: Answer to gretskidoo

 

[thoves]

I've watched a couple of Russia games lately, and based on your thoughts here it seems likely that Sweden-Russia could be a boooooooring game.

Russia has played super-defensive.. But still lost their games 0-1 etc...

 

[jfc64]

Only if that 4th line gets less than 2 minutes a game. Such garbage players.

Nah.

 

[joe89]

Thought Lundqvist and Pettersson were good. Sadly for them, Harju destroyed most of the zone time they created. His fluke goal doesn't mean much. But the biggest difference is that they were leading guys today and expected to score, and will be 4th line guys in the WC. Their more diminished roles on the final team will only do them well.

Persson was real weak today, and what a nonsensical line to play him with Omark and Lundh. Omark has regressed the last couple of seasons and has no confidence. I doubt he'll stay on the team.

Fasth, Zackrisson and Olausson were not terrible but also non-factors. Neither adds anything special, maybe maybe that Fasth's speed could be useful on another line.

Kid line did what I expected and more. They didn't get nearly the ice time they deserved. Thought all three of them were great.

Kronwall and Ekholm was the only good D pairing. Brodin was alright. Hedman was up and down. Ahnelov, Fernholm and Karlsson were pylons. Frogren I didn't notice much, but I guess that's a good thing for him.

 

[JackHughes86]

Josefson has a broken wrist. The guy can't stay healthy..

yeah its really unlucky he was looking good again

 

[weklof]

Updated summary

Now it's official that Krüger joins: http://www.swehockey.se/Startsidesnyheter/2012/April2012/NHL-lagetinforVM/

All available NHLers accounted for


Roster for Kajotbet Hockey Games:
Jhonas Enroth, Buffalo
Viktor Fasth, AIK
Cristopher Nihlstorp, Färjestad

Staffan Kronwall, Tjerepovets
Daniel Fernholm, HIFK
Mattias Ekholm, Brynäs
Jonas Frögren, Färjestad
Mattias Karlsson, HV71
Jonas Brodin, Färjestad
Jonas Ahnelöv, Modo
Victor Hedman, Tampa Bay

Johan Larsson, Brynäs
Fredrik Pettersson, Frölunda
Calle Järnkrok, Brynäs
Jesper Fasth, HV71
Patrik Zackrisson, Atlant
Joel Lundqvist, Frölunda
Daniel BÃ¥ng, AIK
Niklas Persson, CSKA
Niklas Olausson, Luleå
Linus Omark, Edmonton
Jonas Andersson, Atlant
Patrik Lundh, Färjestad
Johan Harju, Luleå
Gabriel Landeskog, Colorado

Confirmed additions:
D Jonathan Ericsson - Detroit
D Niklas Hjalmarsson - Chicago
F Loui Eriksson - Dallas
F Johan Franzén - Detroit
F Henrik Zetterberg - Detroit
F Viktor Stålberg - Chicago
F Marcus Krüger - Chicago

Declined invitations:
G Johan Gustafsson - Luleå *injury
D Magnus Johansson - Linköping *lack of motivation
D Elias Fälth - Luleå *injury
D Christian Bäckman - Frölunda *injury
D Tobias Enström - Winnipeg *Does not feel 100% healty
D Oscar Klefbom - Färjestad *injury
D Nicklas Lidström - Detroit *feels he has paid his dues in the NT and wants the younger guard to take over
D Niklas Kronwall *private reasons
D Douglas Murray - San Jose *injury
D Alexander Edler - Vancouver *injury
D Johnny Oduya - Chicago *worn out and lack of motivation
F Andreas Jämtin - Linköping *lack of motivaiton
F Carl Söderberg - Linköping *injury
F Mattias Ritola - MODO *injury
F Magnus Kahnberg - Frölunda *injury
F Tony MÃ¥rtensson - St. Petersburg *injury
F Mattias Weinhandl - St. Petersburg *injury
F Martin Thörnberg - Torpedo Nizhny Novogorod *injury
F Samuel PÃ¥hlsson - Vancouver *per Expressen, unknown
F Daniel Sedin - Vancouver *just returned from concussion
F Henrik Sedin - Vancouver *"injury"
F Jimmie Ericsson - Skellefteå *injury

Unavailable players:
D Carl Gunnarsson - Toronto *injury
D Mattias Öhlund - Tampa Bay *injury
F Mikael Backlund - Calgary *injury
F Kristian Huselius - Columbus *injury

Not invited:
G Jonas Gustavsson - Toronto
G Henrik Karlsson - Calgary
D Dennis Persson - Buffalo
F Andreas Engqvist - Montreal
F Tom Wandell - Dallas
F Tomas Holmström - Detroit
F Gustav Nyquist - Detroit

Possible additions, NHL:
-

NHL playoffs

Nashville Predators - Detroit Red Wings 4-1
St. Louis Blues - San Jose Sharks 4-1
Pittsburgh Penguins - Philadelphia Flyers 2-4
Vancouver Canucks - Los Angeles Kings 1-4
Phoenix Coyotes - Chicago Blackhawks 4-2
Boston Bruins - Washington Capitals 3-4

New York Rangers - Ottawa Senators 3-3
G Henrik Lundqvist - NY Rangers
D Anton Strålman - NY Rangers
F Carl Hagelin - NY Rangers
D Erik Karlsson - Ottawa
F Daniel Alfredsson - Ottawa
F Jacob Silfverberg - Ottawa

Florida Panthers - New Jersey Devils 3-3
F Mikael Samuelsson - Florida
G Johan Hedberg - New Jersey
D Adam Larsson - New Jersey
D Henrik Tallinder - New Jersey *injured, blood clot
F Jacob Josefson - New Jersey *injured, broken wrist

 

[weklof]

So currently two defensemen and five forwards will join the current roster before WC starts. How would you cut to leave room for them?

Personally I would cut these:
Mattias Karlsson, Jonas Ahnelöv, Patrik Zackrisson, Daniel Bång, Nicklas Olausson, Patrik Lundh, Johan Harju


Hoping for Erik Karlsson, as the D is our weak point a the moment IMHO.

 

[Acetylene]

So currently two defensemen and five forwards will join the current roster before WC starts. How would you cut to leave room for them?

Personally I would cut these:
Mattias Karlsson, Jonas Ahnelöv, Patrik Zackrisson, Daniel Bång, Nicklas Olausson, Patrik Lundh, Johan Harju


Hoping for Erik Karlsson, as the D is our weak point a the moment IMHO.

Those are likely to be cut, I agree. Perhaps M. Karlsson gets to stay on Brodin's behalf though. I also want Harju instead of Fasth, but that's unlikely

 

[weklof]

Those are likely to be cut, I agree. Perhaps M. Karlsson gets to stay on Brodin's behalf though. I also want Harju instead of Fasth, but that's unlikely

I would rather cut M. Karlsson than Brodin. No matter who of them goes, they will likely spend most of the time eating hot dogs in the stands. Brodin, who is young, might benefit from the experience of being around so many good players.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Would like to see this line; Krüger-Järnkrok-Landeskog.

As a third, probably.

 

[Judrix]

glad to hear Kruger accepted, he needs all the experience he can get.

 

[chicagoskycam]

What is the schedule and first game? Will it be televised in the US?

Nevermind I see that it starts May 4th. Still looking for t.v. info.

 

[WayneBruce]

Persson was the worst player on the ice today, I definitely don´t want him on the final team. He has not really been good on the national team at all this year.

 

[jfc64]

Kid line did what I expected and more. They didn't get nearly the ice time they deserved. Thought all three of them were great.

Kronwall and Ekholm was the only good D pairing. Brodin was alright. Hedman was up and down. Ahnelov, Fernholm and Karlsson were pylons. Frogren I didn't notice much, but I guess that's a good thing for him.

Landeskog was not friend with the puck which is a bit worrying. But the line was our best. Järnkrok showed he belong on the team imo. I think Hedman does this in Tampa when the games is not important, join the offense. Doesn't seem to work. He will be our crane when the opposition gets tougher. Kronwall's play wasn't that brilliant. Maybe they should split up them both, Ekholm and him. Finally Enroth looked a bit shaky last half.