AustonsNostrils
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that's a fairly good description though he is better than Stafford, but some team is going to give him $6M a year and that's a bad decision.
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that's a fairly good description though he is better than Stafford, but some team is going to give him $6M a year and that's a bad decision.
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You mean you weren't convinced by the two games they played together that they were completely incompatible and should never be paired with each other again, like Bylsma apparently was?
I thought Bogo-Risto was just fine together, and was looking forward to seeing more of that. Bogo was quite comfortable playing the left side. Given the weakness at left D, wouldn't if be nice to improve that from within the current roster?
IIRC Bylsma went right back to the Gorges-Risto tandem immediately after Josh returned from his short injury stint. Was that based on Dan's cold-eyed reevaluation or simply an inevitable return to the 1st-pairing he originally envisioned? My money's on the latter.
struckbyaparkedcar
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Bogolainen was awesome, but it was also a 60% OZS unit leaving the uphill ice for McCabe/Gorges/Pysyk/Franson/Coli/etc.
Bylsma started giving our best forwards more opportunity to impact the game after locking in Larsson as his heavy D-zone center (Kane-Eichel-Reinhart was practically 60% OZS), but I don't think he'll gain the same trust in his depth on defense.
Bylsma started giving our best forwards more opportunity to impact the game after locking in Larsson as his heavy D-zone center (Kane-Eichel-Reinhart was practically 60% OZS), but I don't think he'll gain the same trust in his depth on defense.
Then give them the OZS together and figure out a way to handle the DZS to turn possession up ice, be it the FLG line or some new compliment of defensemen (McCabe-Pysyk as a second pair perhaps?). Force adaptation by the opposition -- and for heaven's sake, don't put ZB-RR together to have them backing up the 4th line on OZS.
I don't think Okposo's offensive production would decrease if he were to flank Eichel. I can't speak to other facets of his game, however.
Der Jaeger
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For all the Finnish twitter insanity and some random kid making things up, I still think simple is likely. It's lying season, and the closer we get to the 24th, the deeper it gets. It's also click-bait season and follower season. Here's what I think occurs for the Sabres.
- 8OA on the best LHD
- Trade for a LHD that's a complimentary type (re: Tallinder-style) for Bogosian or Ristolainen. I think this trade include picks, primarily, and includes 38 OA and likely the 2017 1st.
- Hard UFA run at Jimmy Vesey
- Re-sign RFAs
- Re-sign Chad Johnson
- Re-sign Legwand
I think Carrier will make the team from Rochester due to two-way play, and I think some of the kids that still need developing will stay in Rochester (Fasching, Nelson, Bailey). I think we'll start to see some movement of players at the deadline that frees up spots for deserving players.
Opening night line-up:
F: Kane, Foligno, Girgensons, Moulson, Ryan O'Reilly, Eichel, Reinhart, Larsson, Legwand, Cal O'Reilly, Ennis, Gionta, Deslauriers, Carrier
D: trade, Gorges, McCabe, Ristolainen, Bogosian, Pysyk, Franson
G: Lehner, Johnson
- 8OA on the best LHD
- Trade for a LHD that's a complimentary type (re: Tallinder-style) for Bogosian or Ristolainen. I think this trade include picks, primarily, and includes 38 OA and likely the 2017 1st.
- Hard UFA run at Jimmy Vesey
- Re-sign RFAs
- Re-sign Chad Johnson
- Re-sign Legwand
I think Carrier will make the team from Rochester due to two-way play, and I think some of the kids that still need developing will stay in Rochester (Fasching, Nelson, Bailey). I think we'll start to see some movement of players at the deadline that frees up spots for deserving players.
Opening night line-up:
F: Kane, Foligno, Girgensons, Moulson, Ryan O'Reilly, Eichel, Reinhart, Larsson, Legwand, Cal O'Reilly, Ennis, Gionta, Deslauriers, Carrier
D: trade, Gorges, McCabe, Ristolainen, Bogosian, Pysyk, Franson
G: Lehner, Johnson
Ace
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That would be a tremendous disappointment. And for fun it leaves us with 5 D worth/have to protect in expansion...which we can't...so we end up taking a step backwards in the only area we took one forward almost immediately.
I know wanting to have offense is a crime around here...but we really need offense. And hey...we can protect forwards in expansion since those 6 and 7 slots are like...Foligno and Deslauriers.
This gives us another lottery year and then we have to protect Risto, Bogo and the guy you traded for and watch McCabe get plucked. And for extra fun we may have traded our 1st in a season where one of the worst 5 on 5 scoring teams got no help and missed the playoffs again. so we're just screwed all around.
Of course there's always the 8 skaters instead of 7/3 method. Where we risk Girgensons, Larsson and Pysyk. Maybe we get lucky and they take a forward and our top 9 can have you or me in it the next year.
I know wanting to have offense is a crime around here...but we really need offense. And hey...we can protect forwards in expansion since those 6 and 7 slots are like...Foligno and Deslauriers.
This gives us another lottery year and then we have to protect Risto, Bogo and the guy you traded for and watch McCabe get plucked. And for extra fun we may have traded our 1st in a season where one of the worst 5 on 5 scoring teams got no help and missed the playoffs again. so we're just screwed all around.
Of course there's always the 8 skaters instead of 7/3 method. Where we risk Girgensons, Larsson and Pysyk. Maybe we get lucky and they take a forward and our top 9 can have you or me in it the next year.
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Some people are followers but that doesn't take away from their skill. I don't claim to know Edmonton's lockerroom so what do I know?
Well when a player has no idea how to play in his own end of the ice and doesn't even try when he plays...it usually means he has a negative effect on a team. I sure wouldn't like playing with a guy like that.
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"Way more"
Risto, Bogo, McCabe, Pysyk, Guhle, Nelson all 25 and under with NHL ability/potential. And yet people want to use our next two firsts on LHD and ignore that the offense is among the worst in the league with some middle 6 potential guys, Zemgus who no one knows where he fits and Ennis who knows what's left making up 1/3 of the top 6
"Way more"
The fact that you include a guy like Guhle shows how clueless you are. Yeah, let's count on guys like Guhle and Nelson to be the anchors of our defense for the immediate future.
How about we use players that are actually proven to be useful NHLers? Like ROR, Eichel, Reinhart, Kane, Larsson, Girgs. Guys like Foligno and Gionta obviously help our team as well considering how good that line was when they were together. And that's not including Ennis. Even Fasching and Bailey are more sure bets than Nelson and Guhle.
Yeah, "way more".
struckbyaparkedcar
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Risto is the only asset in our entire pipeline who projects to an impact top four defenseman on a good team.
Our ES offense sucked in large part because our defense ****ING SUCKED in transition.
Risto/Bogo were 150th or worse in leaguewide shot/goal suppression, so our ability to defend quality opponents blows.
O'Reilly/Eichel/Reinhart/Kane is 2/3rds of a top six, check your math.
So yeah, shut up.
Our ES offense sucked in large part because our defense ****ING SUCKED in transition.
Risto/Bogo were 150th or worse in leaguewide shot/goal suppression, so our ability to defend quality opponents blows.
O'Reilly/Eichel/Reinhart/Kane is 2/3rds of a top six, check your math.
So yeah, shut up.
krt88
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What do we all feel are the odds of Jimmy Vesey signing with his buddy Jack and the Sabres?
7-1 seem too high?
7-1 seem too high?
struckbyaparkedcar
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Inconsistent defensively with no elite skills. He's going to be fine and has a long NHL career ahead of him, but I don't really ever see him getting past that no-man's tier where Jordan Leopold spent his whole career.
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