Roster Speculation 2013-2014 Part II

[SabresFan26]

I'll do an Ennis for Kadri swap... I'd loathe having both of them

Lateral at best.

 

[Jame]

You're telling me you wouldn't move Moulson or Ott for Kadri? He's 23 and would immediately be our best forward. Fits right in with Ennis and Hodgson to form a 2nd scoring line for years to come.

I thought you were asking in a legit sort of way.

Yea, after moving Moulson for Kadri. I'd move Ott for Gagner... and I dislike Gagner too.

I hate the type of player you like. You would build an awesome video game roster though

 

[stokes84]

I thought you were asking in a legit sort of way.

Yea, after moving Moulson for Kadri. I'd move Ott for Gagner... and I dislike Gagner too.

I hate the type of player you like. You would build an awesome video game roster though

We'll obviously we'd add, but listening to Canadian radio, it seems like they really want to move. I think age, scoring, skating - he'd fit right in, or allow you to move someone else. I'd prefer Kadri to a late 1st this year, for sure.

 

[Jim Bob]

Once Bryan Murray goes away, we can start calling him by his last name.

What about Bob?

 

[Jame]

We'll obviously we'd add, but listening to Canadian radio, it seems like they really want to move. I think age, scoring, skating - he'd fit right in, or allow you to move someone else. I'd prefer Kadri to a late 1st this year, for sure.

I dont see how a rental is a core piece of a Kadri package... that's just dumb.

To get Kadri, you're probably looking at something like Hodgson, rental, 1st rounder (not our 2014 top pick) or equivalent prospect

I don't want anything to do with players like Kadri... or Gagner.... or Ennis

 

[Heraldic]

Orpik has horseshoes... not wheels.

Obviously, the WNY comment fits... but the player doesn't.



I think Risto will absolutely be ready next year, but he'll still probably start in Rochester and need to FORCE his way on the roster.

I think it's clear that Zadarov will go back to juniors... the organization is building for the future... no need to rush anyone, even if they are "ready".

more than likely, i see our 14/15 defense as:
Ehrhoff-Myers
Ruhwedel-Pysyk
Weber-McBain
x UFA

If Tallinder doesn't play here next season, I don't think we have any young guys (except Pysyk) to fill a top-4-role. Ruhwedel might fit considering his age, but is he really ready for it? And I don't think Orpik isn't an option - I mean, he is not going to be a long-term solution, though.

I still think we have a surplus of defenders next year, so one of McBain/McNabb should be traded - I prefer McBain.

So, I think it would go something like this:

Ehrhoff - Pysyk
Orpik/Tallinder/UFA - Myers
Weber/McNabb/McBain - Ristolainen/Ruhwedel.

That would create some serious competion, while not putting anyone on a role they are not ready for. Though we should be careful not to hurt the tank too much! It's interesting to see will McCabe be signed next summer and come to Rochester. Same with Brady Austin.

And on the offense, I think the only one who will be brought up is Larsson. No one else isn't ready yet. So we will need a lot more short-term fillers there.

 

[SabresFan26]

There is a reason why teams want to get rid of certain players (Kadri)

 

[ZZamboni]

There is a reason why teams want to get rid of certain players (Kadri)

That's where my heads at too.

If Kadri is such a nice player to get, why are the leafs looking to move him?

 

[Heraldic]

What would you be willing to give for Kadri? I think he would fit in nicely, for the right price.

As long as we have Hodgson, we don't need anymore secondary scoring centers. We need to find a good two-way center + number one center. No need to waste assets anywhere else right now. I think we should save our assets till the draft day - this draft might be the one where you can actually move top up "relatively" easily.

 

[Splintered Sherwood]

The problem with Kadri is that he is talented from the neck down, dead from the neck up.

If Tim Murray wants players with hockey sense, Kadri is not the kind of player you look for.

 

[thefatjesus*]

Bidding for either will likely get to a 1st from a contender. So I'd think at minimum a 2nd and a Prince

Ya I think thats a mutually beneficial deal, wasnt sure which prospect you guys would want more out od Puempel, Prince, Pageau, Wiercioch ect.. But Prince is awesome, Tim Murray really likes the guy.

So does the rest of the buffalo fanbase like a deal simliar to 2nd + Prince for Ott or Moulson?

 

[Beerz]

You're telling me you wouldn't move Moulson or Ott for Kadri? He's 23 and would immediately be our best forward. Fits right in with Ennis and Hodgson to form a 2nd scoring line for years to come.

That would make me puke.

 

[Jacob582]

Ya I think thats a mutually beneficial deal, wasnt sure which prospect you guys would want more out od Puempel, Prince, Pageau, Wiercioch ect.. But Prince is awesome, Tim Murray really likes the guy.

So does the rest of the buffalo fanbase like a deal simliar to 2nd + Prince for Ott or Moulson?

A lot of us are still brainwashed by Darcy to hold out for a 1st rounder for Ott and Moulson.

 

[Revelate]

It's not a good sign when a team is looking to add a top six forward and are offering a top six forward.

 

[BeauportHarfangs]

I still think we have a surplus of defenders next year, so one of McBain/McNabb should be traded - I prefer McBain.

So, I think it would go something like this:

Ehrhoff - Pysyk
Orpik/Tallinder/UFA - Myers
Weber/McNabb/McBain - Ristolainen/Ruhwedel.

Operating on the assumption that we are in re-build mode, and not trying to put together playoff bound defense pairings; i'm thinking:

Ehrhoff - Pysyk
Weber - Myers
McNabb - McBain
Tallinder

Not sure, but that might leave Rochester with something like:

McCabe* - Ristolainen
Bagnall - Ruhwedel
B. Austin - Gauthier Leduc

* big assumption that McCabe goes pro after this NCAA season.

 

[1972]

Anaheim wants to win a cup this year, they have 2 1st round picks and a glut of good prospects. Seems like a good fit.

Dean Lombardi wants a goal scorer and is linked to Matt Moulson who is Quicks brother in law, that could be a fit.

Nearly every team in the playoffs will be after Steve Ott if available.

Tallinder should have interest as well, I could see teams like CHI, BOS, SJS, and MIN showing some interest.

 

[Jacob582]

It's not a good sign when a team is looking to add a top six forward and are offering a top six forward.

Not that they were top 6 forwards at the time, but reminds me of the Hodgson/Kassian trade.

 

[Djp]

Operating on the assumption that we are in re-build mode, and not trying to put together playoff bound defense pairings; i'm thinking:

Ehrhoff - Pysyk
Weber - Myers
McNabb - McBain
Tallinder

Not sure, but that might leave Rochester with something like:

McCabe* - Ristolainen
Bagnall - Ruhwedel
B. Austin - Gauthier Leduc

* big assumption that McCabe goes pro after this NCAA season.

I think its higher than 70/30 McCabe turns pro after his college season ends.

 

[Jim Bob]

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche...tract-status-remains-issue-colorado-avalanche

ROR and the Avs agree to wait to talk contract over the summer and he wants to stay in Denver.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-jonas-hiller-ducks-20140111,0,4517423.story#axzz2qOlQZnZC

Someone has to pay for Jonas Hiller's success. This season it has been the Ducks' opponents, but later this summer it could be the Ducks.
Should the Ducks' goaltender beat the Phoenix Coyotes on Saturday night, he'll become one of eight goaltenders in NHL history to win 13 consecutive games.
Hiller's hot streak has helped the Ducks (32-8-5) to the best record in the NHL and — considering he's in the final year of his contract — his pay should inflate significantly beyond his current $4.5-million salary.
Hiller said his agent and the Ducks have spoken "a couple times" since the season began. Given the team's depth at the position, he's unsure "what they want to see" before a deal would be finalized.

With the Ducks set in goal, I wonder if they would be interested in Moulson or Ott?

 

[Jacob582]

I think its higher than 70/30 McCabe turns pro after his college season ends.

I think it's at least 50/50, and maybe closer to the 70/30 you state.

 

[BeauportHarfangs]

Also, maybe i'm getting too old to follow this anymore, but i'm not seeing this surplus of defensemen. Im not saying were short, but just about right. I see the future as

LD: Zadorov, McCabe, McNabb and Weber until the last of those three are ready
RD: Ristolainen, Myers, Pysyk, ??? Maybe McBain, maybe Ruhwedel.

I'd be hesistant to trade away McNabb right now. Unless someone overpays.

 

[Beerz]

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche...tract-status-remains-issue-colorado-avalanche

ROR and the Avs agree to wait to talk contract over the summer and he wants to stay in Denver.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-jonas-hiller-ducks-20140111,0,4517423.story#axzz2qOlQZnZC








With the Ducks set in goal, I wonder if they would be interested in Moulson or Ott?

Apparently Ducks are looking to make a blockbuster trade using one of their young goalies...

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1582017

 

[thefatjesus*]

A lot of us are still brainwashed by Darcy to hold out for a 1st rounder for Ott and Moulson.

Welk if your trading both, one could get you a 1st.. They other could come ot Ottawa

 

[Zip15]

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche...tract-status-remains-issue-colorado-avalanche

ROR and the Avs agree to wait to talk contract over the summer and he wants to stay in Denver.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-jonas-hiller-ducks-20140111,0,4517423.story#axzz2qOlQZnZC



With the Ducks set in goal, I wonder if they would be interested in Moulson or Ott?

I still think Moulson makes a ton of sense for the Kings. He has the third most PP goals since 2008-09. LA has the 26th ranked PP, and it almost cost them last night vs Vancouver. Throw in the fact that the Kings want to add another top-6 LW, and he makes even more sense. Plus, he's Quick's brother-in-law, so there's that angle, as well.

Lombardi likes to strike before the deadline, generally. I wonder if they'd try to pull the trigger prior to the Olympics.

 

[Jacob582]

Welk if your trading both, one could get you a 1st.. They other could come ot Ottawa

Darcy would hang up on you now.

How about Prince and your 2015 1st for Moulson and a 4th?