Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2025-26: Welcome to the Darche Side

[Glorydays22]

I don’t even want just a teams top prospect, I want a straight up blue chip in return that will project to make a major impact on the roster within 1-2 seasons. Minimal teams have those players.

I didn't say it was Hage for Barzal straight up.....We would need more.

 

[Taswell]

Not necessarily.

I'm sticking with a proposal I mentioned several weeks ago.

Barzal to Chicago for Moore, Rinzel, West, and picks 4, 34, & 66.

If this Tkachuk trade proves indicative of the market (and not just FLA's wet dream scenario - in a period in which their window is still wide open), then I'm thinking Barzal can bring in that type of package because be it Chicago or Montreal or even a Seattle, several teams have more than enough prospect and draft pick depth to pull something like that off while barely making a dent in their system.

And Barzal would change their complexion considerably, immediately.

Chicago would have to be high, that’s an insane package.

 

[miscs75]

I didn't say it was Hage for Barzal straight up.....We would need more.

Oh I know. I’m just talking in terms of the prospect quality itself. In no way am I interested in a package of Dach/Pickford/1st from Montreal or Hoglander/Mynio/1st from Vancouver. That garbage is terrible mismanagement of assets.

 

[miscs75]

I don't believe Van is on his trade list...Why, well he wants to win...Van is in for a very long rebuild. You have to look at top teams and good rising teams.

San Jose could be on it with Celebrini and friends. They willing to move Misa (sp?) or Chernysov in the return?

 

[Glorydays22]

Oh I know. I’m just talking in terms of the prospect quality itself. In no way am I interested in a package of Dach/Pickford/1st from Montreal or Hoglander/Mynio/1st from Vancouver. That garbage is terrible mismanagement of assets.

Van has nothing to offer for me...outside of its 2026 1st rounder which obviously isn't getting traded. Everyone has to get out of their heads Barzal has ANY shot being traded to Van....

 

[periferal]

That’s the first mystery. My guess is Vancouver is one of them if he wants to go home. They really don’t have anything outside of Cootes and I highly doubt they’re moving him without trying to offload EP40 or Boser (neither of which I want anywhere near this roster with their contracts). I couldn’t even get an idea of the others. Possibly Chicago but what would they being willing to move? Prospects not named Frondell/whoever goes #4? Edmonton has absolutely nothing they can offer unless they want to send Leon back and we know that’s not happening.

Despite being from/playing near the Pacific Northwest, I don't see Barzal wanting to go to Seattle or Vancouver given what shit situations they're in. If I had to guess his 9 team trade list would be the usual suspects including...

Florida
Tampa
Carolina
Minnesota
Dallas
Colorado
Vegas

The problem is...Most teams he'd be willing to go to either couldn't afford them with their cap and/or couldn't give us an accpetable trade package. The question is. would he accept a trade to teams like:

Utah
Montreal
Buffalo
Chicago
San Jose
Boston
Ottawa

If so they could be better fits overall for the Isles purposes. That said overall if the Isles want to deal Barzal there should be a deal that makes sense for all parties.

 

[Glorydays22]

San Jose could be on it with Celebrini and friends. They willing to move Misa (sp?) or Chernysov in the return?

Misa and Eklund?
Chernysov and Eklund?

I don't like their prospects in the system...it would have to be a combo of these guys. Which maybe that's a bit rich for us to ask...but hell, I would sure try.

Chicago, love to get Frondell and one of their young Dman.

 

[SRBisles]

We gotta re-sign Anders now to compete with Florida

 

[miscs75]

Van has nothing to offer for me...outside of its 2026 1st rounder which obviously isn't getting traded. Everyone has to get out of their heads Barzal has ANY shot being traded to Van....

Exactly my point. Them, Toronto and Edmonton combined couldn’t make a package that works for Barzal. Teams want a 2C but want to offer up the package for a trade deadline complimentary 3rd line winger.

 

[Throttle]

Sens flipping those picks for Robertson or Thomas? Surely they have to do something

Probably, too bad no one wants a C/RW for $9M…(gee, I wonder why).

 

[Glorydays22]

Would you trade Barzal for that similar package? All future picks no high end prospects? Not saying it would happen but interesting to think about.

Getting just picks is risky. Wonder if they put any restrictions on the 2029 1st?

Has to be a player or 2 and picks...but that package depends on the player or where those picks are

 

[Throttle]

4 team list - We never had a chance even if the assets were available. Florida just needs a goalie now.

Ottawa is likely going to trade for a Top-6 player with all those picks to save some face to their lineup.

Just bc he shared a list, in the end, he had a NMC, he wasn’t going anywhere he didn’t want to go.

 

[Glorydays22]

Exactly my point. Them, Toronto and Edmonton combined couldn’t make a package that works for Barzal. Teams want a 2C but want to offer up the package for a trade deadline complimentary 3rd line winger.

That's why Darche's targets should be teams like Chicago, SJ, Utah, Buffalo - all teams that are on the rise and team and players expec to make the playoffs. There is a lot of pressure on Chicago mgmt and Bedard with the success of SJ and Utah..

 

[miscs75]

Despite being from/playing near the Pacific Northwest, I don't see Barzal wanting to go to Seattle or Vancouver given what shit situations they're in. If I had to guess his 9 team trade list would be the usual suspects including...

Florida
Tampa
Carolina
Minnesota
Dallas
Colorado
Vegas

The problem is...Most teams he'd be willing to go to either couldn't afford them with their cap and/or couldn't give us an accpetable trade package. The question is. would he accept a trade to teams like:

Utah
Montreal
Buffalo
Chicago
San Jose
Boston
Ottawa

If so they could be better fits overall for the Isles purposes. That said overall if the Isles want to deal Barzal there should be a deal that makes sense for all parties.

From the first list:
Florida - nothing left
Tampa - nothing left
Carolina - Nadeau+ isn’t going to cut it
Minnesota - no idea what they even have left
Dallas - they’re not moving Wyatt who I want in return
Colorado - nothing left
Vegas - nothing left

2nd list:
Utah - needs to start with Desnoyers/Iginla/Simashev and no garbage fillers
Montreal - needs to start with Hage and no garbage fillers
Buffalo - needs to start with Helenius/Mrtka and no garbage fillers
Chicago - needs to start with Frondell and no garbage fillers
San Jose - needs to start with Misa/Chernysov and no garbage fillers
Boston - needs to start with Frondell and no garbage fillers
Ottawa - no idea if they have any worthwhile prospects left and Pinto really isn’t moving the needle as a 3C

 

[Throttle]

Despite being from/playing near the Pacific Northwest, I don't see Barzal wanting to go to Seattle or Vancouver given what shit situations they're in. If I had to guess his 9 team trade list would be the usual suspects including...

Florida
Tampa
Carolina
Minnesota
Dallas
Colorado
Vegas

The problem is...Most teams he'd be willing to go to either couldn't afford them with their cap and/or couldn't give us an accpetable trade package. The question is. would he accept a trade to teams like:

Utah
Montreal
Buffalo
Chicago
San Jose
Boston
Ottawa

If so they could be better fits overall for the Isles purposes. That said overall if the Isles want to deal Barzal there should be a deal that makes sense for all parties.

You get the best you can get and just move on, at this point. If fans think Barzal is going to command a similar package as Tkachuk, then lmao. He ain’t.

 

[seabass45]

We gotta re-sign Anders now to compete with Florida

Hilarious thing about all of this. We bought at the deadline thinking we might have a path through the East, even though we’d almost definitely get thumped by Carolina again if it got that far. Now we’re looking at an even better Florida team and this isn’t done yet. Larkin could force his way to Tampa or something.

 

[Glorydays22]

Probably for the 1st time since joining this board. I totally agree with Periferal about Barzal. This offseason is like the perfect storm. The cap going up again, top players wanting out (more to come!), teams going for it, insane prices (trades and signings)......Darche has to capitialize on this.

My theory is, Larkin is the next trade coming. They want to do this before the draft. Not far behind, I see Hellebuyck. If Darche is smart, he goes back to the teams that reached out to him and maybe some that haven't (i.e Chicago? Bedard favorite player?) and rake them over the coals. What about Montreal?? Florida loading up, maybe now Hage is avaiable? Utah? Teams who are serious about the cup, need to respond to Florida stacking their roster.

Sorry Periferal....we agree on the direction....When I posted this, I was actually thinking of Throttle. LOL

Throttle, you are in my head LOL

 

[miscs75]

Hilarious thing about all of this. We bought at the deadline thinking we might have a path through the East, even though we’d almost definitely get thumped by Carolina again if it got that far. Now we’re looking at an even better Florida team and this isn’t done yet. Larkin could force his way to Tampa or something.

Florida’s season was a fluke this year. If they had everyone healthy halfway through the season, they’re making it in over both wildcard teams easily. If anything, they would have pushed Tampa down to WC1.

 

[Glorydays22]

You get the best you can get and just move on, at this point. If fans think Barzal is going to command a similar package as Tkachuk, then lmao. He ain’t.

prices are insane now....teams have to respond to Florida. Especially if you play in the East.

 

[scott99]

If the Isles were to trade Barzal. My preference would be for Larkin. Then if Boston is interested, Hagens plus their 1st round pick. And then if Ottawa is looking to trade picks for a top 6 forward, how about Barzal to Ottawa for Pinto & #9 overall.

 

[Taswell]

Hilarious thing about all of this. We bought at the deadline thinking we might have a path through the East, even though we’d almost definitely get thumped by Carolina again if it got that far. Now we’re looking at an even better Florida team and this isn’t done yet. Larkin could force his way to Tampa or something.

Yeah, the more the arms race increases in the east, the more obvious it is that we should be bottoming out to prepare to compete when teams like Florida are aging out/on the way down in a few years time. Alas….

 

[Glorydays22]

If the Isles were to trade Barzal. My preference would be for Larkin. Then if Boston is interested, Hagens plus their 1st round pick. And then if Ottawa is looking to trade picks for a top 6 forward, how about Barzal to Ottawa for Pinto & #9 overall.

No to Larkin...I would consider Ottawa for the #9 and a few pieces.
For me Boston is a no go too...rather go to Chicago, SJ and Utah and be aggressive in package and talks with them.

 

[seabass45]

Florida’s season was a fluke this year. If they had everyone healthy halfway through the season, they’re making it in over both wildcard teams easily. If anything, they would have pushed Tampa down to WC1.

To be clear when I’m saying “even better” I’m referring to the Cup team. Although I guess goaltending is a wildcard and they just gave up their best trade chips for Hellebuyck.

 

[miscs75]

To be clear when I’m saying “even better” I’m referring to the Cup team. Although I guess goaltending is a wildcard and they just gave up their best trade chips for Hellebuyck.

I understand fully. That makes them even better on the top end but now they have to move out a few guys to open up cap space which will ultimately bring them down to eath. Watch Bob sign a cheap deal for 2-3 years and then a bigger ticket after once they open up some additional space.

 

[boredmale]

I would do if Barzal and Seattle were willing

for 7th pick overall and Shane Wright

Then Turn around and trade

13th pick, Wright, Engvall and Duclair(assuming we can't trade him otherwise) to the Canucks for EP40 and San Jose's 2nd rounder 2026

That 7th pick almost guarantees us one of Verhoeff or Viggio

We also gain some capspace by getting rid of Engvall and Duclair even when factoring in Barzals and EP40s contracts