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With the Stanley Cup Finals having finished and a new boatload of activity to begin before the 2025-26 season I figured we could use a new thread.

Previous thread: Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

Last relevant post from previous thread:
It's a terrible offer even if #12 + something else (maybe JGP) can jump us up to #7.

Detroit needs to offer more. That doesn't come close to a defenseman like Dobson.
 
So if the isles wanna trade Dobson, who do you prefer most out of these teams?

-Utah
-Boston
-Detroit?
 
With the Stanley Cup Finals having finished a new boatload of activity to begin before the 2025-26 season I figured we could use a new thread.

Previous thread: Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

Last relevant post from previous thread:
I agree, maybe Yzerman thinks he has the leverage and Darche doesn't want to pay him. Even so, you only have that leverage if no one else will pay him either. Borderline insulting offer
 
I’m really curious to know what the plan is for our forward group over the next couple of years. Obviously Eiserman is on the way, but his realistic production if he pans out is most likely going to just replace what Nelson was in his best years. That’d be great of course, but it’s not enough to elevate the team. Also, Palmieri and Lee are probably gone after next season which results in us losing another ~40-50 goals. After Eiserman, we really don’t have much help on the way and we all know that we can’t attract high end free agents either. If the expectation is for us to solve that issue with more Horvat types like Ehlers or Boeser, I’m afraid the offense is going to be in for more struggles. And considering all of this is a big reason why I’d prefer taking Misa over Schaefer. Going into 2026-‘27 with a top six of Misa-Horvat-Barzal + Eiserman-Ritchie-Holmstrom is really hard to pass on. The defense is good enough right now and we do have some guys coming up, and it’s also easier to find top four defenders than it is high end forwards. I know the whole “don’t draft for need” thing, but in a draft like this where many believe it’s a 1A and 1B situation, I can’t help but think the smarter option for building a team would be taking the forward.
 
Again, in a widely seen as a poor draft outside the top 3 to 4 picks, why in the world would the isles also want the 7th pick??? Kudos to Boston for dangling the pick, shame on the Isles (and posters) for taking the bait
 
Again, in a widely seen as a poor draft outside the top 3 to 4 picks, why in the world would the isles also want the 7th pick??? Kudos to Boston for dangling the pick, shame on the Isles (and posters) for taking the bait
You only make the trade if there's someone you like still available for whatever reason at 7. I.E. if Hagens slips to 7, I can see the Isles pulling the trigger. Or, it can be some other player they covet.
 
So if the isles wanna trade Dobson, who do you prefer most out of these teams?

-Utah
-Boston
-Detroit?
Chicago. I think they’re trying to kick their rebuild up a notch. They can’t let Bedard be part of a floundering team much longer. Might be why they traded for Burakovsky.
 
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Utah has a right side of Durzi/Marino/Kesselring.

Dobson makes little sense for them. If anything Romanov is a more attractive asset...but good luck getting the 4th overall for a package around Romanov.

Sergachev-Marino
Romanov-Durzi
Cole/Valimaki-Kesselring

That's a really nice D group.
 
Chicago. I think they’re trying to kick their rebuild up a notch. They can’t let Bedard be part of a floundering team much longer. Might be why they traded for Burakovsky.
A franchise like Chicago is going to be a potential destination for McDavid if they can prove they're not completely horrendous. They'll have a lot of help coming in a couple of years, and just retained Donato on a deal that allows him to slide down to 3C (or wherever else) very comfortably.
 
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So if the isles wanna trade Dobson, who do you prefer most out of these teams?

-Utah
-Boston
-Detroit?

If it has nothing to do with gaining a shot at grabbing Hagens, then clearly Detroit.

The organization has plenty of young NHLers, prospects, and another 9 picks in this summer's draft.
 
Utah has a right side of Durzi/Marino/Kesselring.

Dobson makes little sense for them. If anything Romanov is a more attractive asset...but good luck getting the 4th overall for a package around Romanov.

Sergachev-Marino
Romanov-Durzi
Cole/Valimaki-Kesselring

That's a really nice D group.
Teams that have been loosely mentioned are Chicago and Nashville.
Nashville's acquisition of Dobson would allow them to compete for a playoff spot next season, and they still have two 1st-round picks. You could expand the deal adding Duclair on one side and Mayfield on the other.

Hawk's acquisition of Dobson would allow them to have a very exciting Rightside D with Rinzel, Lechshunov, who could start the season in the AHL. They still have a 1st-round pick. You could expand the deal, adding Lukas Reichel (who is already signed for 1.2 next season, may have been leapfrogged by other forward prospects in the system).
 
You only make the trade if there's someone you like still available for whatever reason at 7. I.E. if Hagens slips to 7, I can see the Isles pulling the trigger. Or, it can be some other player they covet.
Hagens would not be available at 7, and shame on the isles for coveting a player in a crap draft to spend assets to get.
 
Hagens would not be available at 7, and shame on the isles for coveting a player in a crap draft to spend assets to get.
I agree, I’d be shocked if Hagens falls to 7, I don’t think he gets out of the top 4. Why is it shame on the Islanders ? I don’t get that statement. Also, I have no problem trading assets if you’re gonna get better asset(s).
 
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So if the isles wanna trade Dobson, who do you prefer most out of these teams?

-Utah
-Boston
-Detroit?


Utah.


That way if Dobson reaches his potential and it becomes a mistake to deal him, if we do have to face him it would be in the Cup final.
 
Again, in a widely seen as a poor draft outside the top 3 to 4 picks, why in the world would the isles also want the 7th pick??? Kudos to Boston for dangling the pick, shame on the Isles (and posters) for taking the bait

Who cares if Isles fans "take the bait?"

I only care if Darche does.
 
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I agree, I’d be shocked if Hagens falls to 7, I don’t think he gets out of the top 4. Why is it shame on the Islanders ? I don’t get that statement. Also, I have no problem trading assets if you’re gonna get better asset(s).

Actually I see the ceiling for Hagens being #4 overall. Schaefer/Misa going 1/2 is seemingly locked in (but it would be crazy for anyone to take Hagens over Misa regardless).

Then after that I think given the lackluster natures of this draft many teams will want to roll the dice on more size/upside/special traits prospects as opposed to someone like Hagens who does everything well, but perhaps might cap out as a smallish #2 center.

Not saying that's what I think, but I also wouldn't be surprised if all of Schaefer, Misa, Martone, Frondell, Desnoyers, all go ahead of Hagens. That would mean he would be #6 overall. And while unlikely I think there's a chance that McQueen, Martin, O'Brien could as well.

Phila is at #6 and to me that's probably Hagen's floor. It also probably means that if Darche wants to trade back up for him you better jump ahead of Phila as little chance they'd deal with the Isles in that situation.
 
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Maybe, I mean maybe, double check your sources FIRST…

The backtracking by the Isles ‘reporters/covers/whatevers’ is really making all these people look like clowns.
Exactly! He’s just like the rest of them rushing to post so he can be the first to break the news lol. If he trusts Friedman so much, why not contact him and see if the info is correct. Friedman usually doesn’t post something unless he’s confident it’s correct because he doesn’t want to ruin his reputation. Doing stuff like this makes you untrustworthy
 
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Utah has a right side of Durzi/Marino/Kesselring.

Dobson makes little sense for them. If anything Romanov is a more attractive asset...but good luck getting the 4th overall for a package around Romanov.

Sergachev-Marino
Romanov-Durzi
Cole/Valimaki-Kesselring

That's a really nice D group.
This is all correct, but Dobson is better than anyone on the right side so if they want an upgrade he’s still an option.

Just matters what Bill Armstrong wants, if they want to use their pick for a spot that’s an upgrade but maybe not a necessity.

Utah is interesting to me because they got house money on their lottery pick. They’ve been drafting high for a while and they were good picks and in all areas. Will be interesting to see what they do.
 
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