Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

Isles72 · 2024-10-06T10:31:25-0400

LeapOnOver said:
So the GM is going to waive a guy he signed to a long contract to keep a guy he got that's been waived several times already. Does anybody really think that sounds like LLs M.O.? I mean, several of you keep bringing it up in your armchair GM talks about what you would do, but you do know that's not going to happen, right?

theres going to be some paper shuffling transactions to stay cap compliant that we're not aware of .

Engvall could be coached into using his toolbox to be an effective 4th liner with casey and mack

seafoam · 2024-10-06T10:48:08-0400

This may be their waiver list today FYI.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842939149797761534

Bolduc is a risk to be claimed, but if he were to clear, I think playing tons of minutes in all situations would be good for him. If he doesn’t stand out down there (similar to how Salo faded off), then that is a good indication of his NHL upside.

Kevin27NYI · 2024-10-06T10:53:15-0400

If it is Engvall, that’s good for us cap wise. Well actually accrue cap during the year

Kevin27NYI · 2024-10-06T11:15:36-0400

Just checked on puckpedia

If we run

Duclair-Horvat-barzal
Tsyplakov-Nelson-palms
Lee-pageau-Holmstrom
McLean-cizikas-Wahlstrom
Gauthier

Waive fasching and keep Martin on a PTO

Pelech-pulock
Reilly-mayfield
Romanov-dobson
Cholowski

Waive every other dman

Sorokin and Varly

We’d have an astounding $212,500 in cap space

periferal · 2024-10-06T11:16:17-0400

SI90 said:
Screen machine. Russian Anders Lee. Sippy taking over the captains office

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842353071369654771

Brilliant catch whoever videoed this. 100% he's making himself as big/wide as possible to shield as much of the goalie's line of sight as possible.

Isles72 · 2024-10-06T11:27:07-0400

seafoam said:
This may be their waiver list today FYI.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842939149797761534

Bolduc is a risk to be claimed, but if he were to clear, I think playing tons of minutes in all situations would be good for him. If he doesn’t stand out down there (similar to how Salo faded off), then that is a good indication of his NHL upside.

is today the day required to do so ?

Bill Herlyn · 2024-10-06T11:31:40-0400

Isles72 said:
is today the day required to do so ?

yes!

impaaaaaact · 2024-10-06T11:44:46-0400

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842938846972875164

Uhh, Engvall and Bolduc not even skating with the rest of the team. Seems like they'll both be shopped, and if they can't move them, waived. If I'm a San Jose or a Montreal Bolduc feels like an easy claim.

miscs75 · 2024-10-06T11:46:55-0400

Kevin27NYI said:
Just checked on puckpedia

If we run

Duclair-Horvat-barzal
Tsyplakov-Nelson-palms
Lee-pageau-Holmstrom
McLean-cizikas-Wahlstrom
Gauthier

Waive fasching and keep Martin on a PTO

Pelech-pulock
Reilly-mayfield
Romanov-dobson
Cholowski

Waive every other dman

Sorokin and Varly

We’d have an astounding $212,500 in cap space

Swap Fasching and Wally. One actually puts effort in away from the puck and the other is defensively inept.

Richie Daggers Crime · 2024-10-06T11:55:19-0400

periferal said:
100% he's making himself as big/wide as possible to shield as much of the goalie's line of sight as possible.

Did you ever notice that when you clean a vacuum cleaner, you become a vacuum cleaner?

Kevin27NYI · 2024-10-06T11:59:40-0400

miscs75 said:
Swap Fasching and Wally. One actually puts effort in away from the puck and the other is defensively inept.

Fasching is only effective to me when the puck is behind the net. Whally can at least hit a guy.

JTToilinginToronto · 2024-10-06T12:01:20-0400

impaaaaaact said:
https://x.com/i/web/status/1842938846972875164

Uhh, Engvall and Bolduc not even skating with the rest of the team. Seems like they'll both be shopped, and if they can't move them, waived. If I'm a San Jose or a Montreal Bolduc feels like an easy claim.

Bolduc for a 4th maybe?

Engvall at 50% retained for future considerations?

Throttle · 2024-10-06T12:11:54-0400

Kevin27NYI said:
Fasching is only effective to me when the puck is behind the net. Whally can at least hit a guy.

Fasching is fine if you want a grinder to just take up 8-12 minutes. Seems like Roy wants more out of that role - at least initially.

Kevin27NYI · 2024-10-06T12:13:47-0400

Throttle said:
Fasching is fine if you want a grinder to just take up 8-12 minutes. Seems like Roy wants more out of that role - at least initially.

Right and I agree. I'd waive him but don't want to lose him. These are all replacement level guys with different skill sets. Obviously Whalstrom is the best shooter, best checker. Fasching can grind and has the best puck protection, Gauthier has the speed.

miscs75 · 2024-10-06T12:18:57-0400

Throttle said:
Fasching is fine if you want a grinder to just take up 8-12 minutes. Seems like Roy wants more out of that role - at least initially.

Realistically that’s all he’d be needed for. Wally doesn’t know what to do away from the puck. His NHL veteran parallel in Mike Hoffman was just waived.

MJF · 2024-10-06T12:24:16-0400

Does Hogberg have to clear waivers to be sent down?

Kevin27NYI · 2024-10-06T12:30:39-0400

MJF said:
Does Hogberg have to clear waivers to be sent down?

Yes

Tahoeblue · 2024-10-06T12:31:29-0400

Would rather have Foudy than Fasching. He has speed and versatility to play multiple positions, and has some pop to score. Bolduc showed some promise at the Bridge and even was an all-star I believe. He has struggled ever since and hope the Isles can keep him to develop some. Lou is going to wait until the end and try to jam them through waivers and mitigate loss.

Cholo looked more confident with the puck and seemed to be able to transition quicker and think the game faster. Looks like he is a late bloomer who is figuring things out.

I know Wally was not drafted to be a bottom nine player and have mixed feelings with him on the 4th line. As others have mentioned he could play pp2 as well as play against bottom pair D and have time to get off his shot. He gives the 4th line and Roy some options for sure and a different look.

Feels like this team has an identity again with Roy and it has been a successful camp.

Lek · 2024-10-06T12:36:26-0400

Nice to feel good going into the start of the season....

SI90 · 2024-10-06T12:42:13-0400

It most likely won’t happen but if a team is stupid enough to claim Engval that would be huge for us.

Nassau Revisited · 2024-10-06T12:57:50-0400

If Bolduc is waived it shows how poorly he was handled last year by Lou. He needed ice time in the AHL and was terrible when he did play. Hutton was better than him and Aho last season.

Reminds me of JF Berube. Trying to out smart everyone

YearlyLottery · 2024-10-06T13:07:48-0400

Nassau Revisited said:
If Bolduc is waived it shows how poorly he was handled last year by Lou. He needed ice time in the AHL and was terrible when he did play. Hutton was better than him and Aho last season.

Reminds me of JF Berube. Trying to out smart everyone

I don't love the idea of waiving Bolduc but we are at the point with a new coaching staff and full training camp this was his chance to cement his spot on the roster.

Throttle · 2024-10-06T13:24:24-0400

Kevin27NYI said:
Right and I agree. I'd waive him but don't want to lose him. These are all replacement level guys with different skill sets. Obviously Whalstrom is the best shooter, best checker. Fasching can grind and has the best puck protection, Gauthier has the speed.

Usually, the ‘safe’ player is the guy like Fasching as we get deeper into the season.

Gauthier may start the season as Roy goes all in on speed, but unless Gauthier changes his game to play defense and do things away from the puck, he’ll be back in the press box or AHL and Fasching will take his spot.

MJF · 2024-10-06T13:24:39-0400

YearlyLottery said:
I don't love the idea of waiving Bolduc but we are at the point with a new coaching staff and full training camp this was his chance to cement his spot on the roster.

Yeah this is not on Lou. If he gets claimed it would be a shame but I’m not getting upset over this.

Nassau Revisited · 2024-10-06T13:26:32-0400

MJF said:
Yeah this is not on Lou. If he gets claimed it would be a shame but I’m not getting upset over this.

It’s on Lou for keeping himon the roster last year when he was clearly over his head. Bolduc easily cost us 4-6 points last season. He should have been waived at end of last years training camp

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