Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

[Kevin27NYI]

I still don't see why Palms and Nelson can't both fetch first rounders but for Palms that depends on the market. Toffoli might be a comp and that's a second and a third. Have Brock go to Dallas for a first +, Palms maybe back to the Devils for a second and a third. See what the market is for Lee, Cizikas and Pageau. I wouldn't rush to trade Lee but if he does go it gives plenty of cap space to overpay for Rantanen or Marner if they reach free agency. Or you can aggressively trade picks for younger talent that also costs money like a Zegras.

Just to play ball, could see Nelson to Dallas for a 1st and a third, Palms to Devils for a second and third. Could see Lee to Vegas for Holtz+. JG has a 16 team NTC and Casey has 0 trade protection. And Mike Reilly could fetch a late round pick, he'll be healthy soon but is depth, a 5th rounder would play.

 

[Glory Days]

I don’t see Nelson or Palms getting traded if the Isles are within close distance to the playoffs. Nor do I see either player resigning. IMO most likely scenario is both walk as free agents.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

I don’t see Nelson or Palms getting traded if the Isles are within close distance to the playoffs. Nor do I see either player resigning. IMO most likely scenario is both walk as free agents.

We're five points out but unless this team goes 12-5-2 or something till the deadline (that was a made up record, no idea how many games until then) then we're selling.

I will say, I don't see a scenario where we buy.

 

[Big L]

We're five points out but unless this team goes 12-5-2 or something till the deadline (that was a made up record, no idea how many games until then) then we're selling.

I will say, I don't see a scenario where we buy.

This. Isles in last place, have to jump 5 teams to even get to a WC. Season is toast. Slow start with mental errors and uninspired play has torpedoed the season.

 

[Torrey Redux]

We're five points out but unless this team goes 12-5-2 or something till the deadline (that was a made up record, no idea how many games until then) then we're selling.

I will say, I don't see a scenario where we buy.

Take 3 out of 4 pts from PBG and then beat the suddenly struggling Laffs in TOR. Lou won't even wait for the deadline.

 

[Big L]

Take 3 out of 4 pts from PBG and then beat the suddenly struggling Laffs in TOR. Lou won't even wait for the deadline.

Putzrick Roy will probably start sorokin both games back to back nights. No way they take 3 of 4. 1 of 4 maybe. 1 in the first game on Saturday when they come out guns blazing (gotta redeem themselves from shit Buffalo game) to a quick 3-0 lead and eventually lose in the shootout. Then smoked game 2. This team has proven over and over this season they’re just not capable of consistency, putting together a string of Ws.

 

[Torrey Redux]

Putzrick Roy will probably start sorokin both games back to back nights. No way they take 3 of 4. 1 of 4 maybe. 1 in the first game on Saturday when they come out guns blazing (gotta redeem themselves from shit Buffalo game) to a quick 3-0 lead and eventually lose in the shootout. Then smoked game 2. This team has proven over and over this season they’re just not capable of consistency, putting together a string of Ws.

I generally agree, and no, it's not likely to happen but even the Islanders might be capable of one teeny little semi-streak coming out of the break and that is all it will take to get Lou all hot and bothered.

 

[periferal]

I don’t see Nelson or Palms getting traded if the Isles are within close distance to the playoffs. Nor do I see either player resigning. IMO most likely scenario is both walk as free agents.

And that would be 10 out of 10 on the dumb scale.

I often think about how if the Isles traded Tavares (Instead of letting him walk for NOTHING) for like 3 good/great assets that could've been the thing that put them over the top vs the Lightning one of those years.

You need to maximize every asset you have or you aren't being a good GM.

We're five points out but unless this team goes 12-5-2 or something till the deadline (that was a made up record, no idea how many games until then) then we're selling.

I will say, I don't see a scenario where we buy.

So you're expecting the GM that has never sold...To sell.


The only way he will is if Malkin steps in and forces him or fires him.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

So you're expecting the GM that has never sold...To sell.


The only way he will is if Malkin steps in and forces him or fires him.

Credit to him, he is usually buying because his teams are good.

Devils were clearly out of it in 2015, they sold Zidlicky and Jagr. The next year for the Leafs was also a selling year as they were rebuilding and he sold a lot.

 

[leeroggy]

On the Trade board I proposed Palms retained for a 2nd and Mikael Diotte, who is an intriguing late bloomer. Not drafted but got a 3-year ELC from the Devils early this year.

21 years old, RHD, 6'3', 205 lbs
Progression in his stats
With Nemec and Casey in the pipeline, he should be available due to trading from a position of strength for the Devils.

We certainly could use another RHD in the prospect pool and he looks like a nice one to target. And the likelihood of prying Casey or Nemec away is pretty small.

 

[xECK29x]

I still don't see why Palms and Nelson can't both fetch first rounders but for Palms that depends on the market. Toffoli might be a comp and that's a second and a third. Have Brock go to Dallas for a first +, Palms maybe back to the Devils for a second and a third. See what the market is for Lee, Cizikas and Pageau. I wouldn't rush to trade Lee but if he does go it gives plenty of cap space to overpay for Rantanen or Marner if they reach free agency. Or you can aggressively trade picks for younger talent that also costs money like a Zegras.

I’d be happy with 2 2nds

 

[Strummergas]

Credit to him, he is usually buying because his teams are good.

Devils were clearly out of it in 2015, they sold Zidlicky and Jagr. The next year for the Leafs was also a selling year as they were rebuilding and he sold a lot.

And let's not be so quick to forget that he didn't buy last year either, and they wound up making the playoffs anyway.

 

[periferal]

This. Isles in last place, have to jump 5 teams to even get to a WC. Season is toast. Slow start with mental errors and uninspired play has torpedoed the season.

An aging roster with a total lack of talent torpedoed the season before it even started (and will every subsequent season until young/legit talent is added).