Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build
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miscs75
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Someone needs to get a warrant for his computer. There has to be incriminating evidence against these other GMs that he’s holding.
I think the point Roy is trying to drive home is that Engvall has the talent to play at a much higher level consistently than he does and it frustrates him. Whereas some of the other guys on the Isles are playing badly but that is all they have to give. Those guys don't have another level.
Love Nelson, but if you're going to rebuild, he's got to go. The assets the Isles would get would be the cornerstone of the rebuild.
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The meaning unless I misstated, was the NYR GM finds a way to get maximum return for every move they make, Lou on the other hand, just cant and it might be the contracts he hands out to players with limited desirability from other teams. The longer he remains as GM , the deeper we get at making a quick correction possible.
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leeroggy
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51 Ranger fans just signed a letter calling that Soviet disinformation
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It's a repeated ritual that seems to happen....
I have only one request from those who make things happen...
"Give Us Hagens This Draft and We Drop The Subpoena On The Ranger PC!"
periferal
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Again...
Lou overpays. Period.
When baffled, look for another explanation.
I would not be surprised if the league office got involved on some level.
Not to nitpick, but Bailey had nothing left. Trouba can at least still play, not sure about Goodrow.
But yeah, still an overpay
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I say trade everyone not named Sorokin. eh maybe trade him too. hell just contract the franchise and put me out of my misery.
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Throttle
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Ana took on Trouba bc he has term, $8M cap hit vs $6M in salary (net cash savings of $4M), they swung and missed in the UFA market last summer.
With the alleged cap bump coming and Anaheim still stinking, they run the risk of having to scramble to make the cap floor as it’s not a desirable place to play (now) and the more prominent teams will have more cap space to pay UFAs.
I doubt this happens as he seems like the most unmotivated player to move on from his situation, is it gives them flexibility to move Gibson, if he decides to move on - again, doubt it. He’s ‘comfortable’ where he is. This is a guy that lives in SoCal and routinely spends his summers back home in the Pittsburgh area.
With the alleged cap bump coming and Anaheim still stinking, they run the risk of having to scramble to make the cap floor as it’s not a desirable place to play (now) and the more prominent teams will have more cap space to pay UFAs.
I doubt this happens as he seems like the most unmotivated player to move on from his situation, is it gives them flexibility to move Gibson, if he decides to move on - again, doubt it. He’s ‘comfortable’ where he is. This is a guy that lives in SoCal and routinely spends his summers back home in the Pittsburgh area.
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Just for the record I have also stated I am FINE trading Nelson. I think the return would be absolutely massive for him and Palmieri. That being said I also think if this team goes into a retool you still need vets to bring the youngsters along the way. The answer is to never trade everyone. You need to pick who from the current core can help bring the future core into a contender.
Trading Lee, Pageau, Pulock, Pelech, Nelson, and Palmieri and great until you realize that teams like Buffalo and Detroit did the same exact thing in this new NHL Lottery era and have struggled mightily to be true winners.
He does seem like one. However, once he gets to free agency who knows what would happen.
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If you want to carry on vets, then you can keep Lee, Pulock, Czikas, etc. for mentorship.
The players with market value, for the best interest of the franchise over the next 5 years, Palms, Nelson, etc. have to be moved.
The players with market value, for the best interest of the franchise over the next 5 years, Palms, Nelson, etc. have to be moved.
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And if you are the NYI, you call up OTT 5 games after Barzal is back and offer him up plus a Czikas and Pulock/Pelech for Tkachuk and something else.
OTT doesn’t need picks, they need veteran players to push them up. OTT shouldn’t take Laffy from NYR bc that doesn’t help them, that’s neutral to ‘back in rebuild mode.’
OTT doesn’t need picks, they need veteran players to push them up. OTT shouldn’t take Laffy from NYR bc that doesn’t help them, that’s neutral to ‘back in rebuild mode.’
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There is no “future core” if players in high demand like Nelson don’t get dealt.
You make it sound like we have a dearth of “gritty veterans” to help the young’ns, when that’s actually like 75% of the roster.
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Aside from Cizikas, nearly every Isles player of significance has a full or modified no trade clause.
Barzal is not going to Ottawa. I suspect most players with any NTC or NMC would veto a trade there.
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Let the Rags have BTkachuk. He ain’t all that.
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Yet…the Trouba saga just showed how well ironclad those NMC/NTC are.
When you are not wanted, players bend.
If he went to waivers, then SJ - CHI - Ana was the order.
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You think SJ or Chi would have picked him up from waivers? Otherwise Anaheim could have picked him up for nothing.
The Real JT
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There’s a difference between not being wanted combined with a threat of being sent to ride the bus in the AHL vs being a bonafide NHL regular that a team wants to trade so the franchise moves in a new direction.
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No, what does that do for us really? BTkachuk has done nothing to make Ottawa a better team. He's not his brother, not even close. He brother has that Xfactor..... Who's getting BTkachuk the puck in scoring opportunites on our team? Horvat, Pageau, Maclean? lol
