Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[MJF]

Meh. I’m more prepared for “We kicked some tires, but at the end of the day, we couldn’t get a deal done”

Happened a lot during Snow’s tenure too.

We've got some bad contracts. I mean bad.

 

[SI90]

Just feels like we’re stuck in purgatory. We’re so married to our core more than any other team it feels if this group doesn’t get it done this year it’s time to start selling off the vets if we can.

 

[xECK29x]

Just feels like we’re stuck in purgatory. We’re so married to our core more than any other team it feels if this group doesn’t get it done this year it’s time to start selling off the vets if we can.

This year is make or break with this group for sure.

 

[SI90]

This year is make or break with this group for sure.

It has to be. Horvat and Barzal will remain but all the other top vets needs to be considered for change after this year if they don’t make a legit run.

 

[Lights911]

This year is make or break with this group for sure.

The past two years have been make or break and they’ve underachieved in both. “You are what your record says you are”.

 

[Taswell]

This year is make or break with this group for sure.

Could be break as soon as our November west coast road trip.

 

[seafoam]

NYI should be all over Klim Kostin.

 

[Osakahaus]

NYI should be all over Klim Kostin.

Said this earlier but I agree. Cheaper and younger options to replace CC and Martin. Its also why I hope we keep Engvall

 

[Big L]

The past two years have been make or break and they’ve underachieved in both. “You are what your record says you are”.

Have the 31 teams that didn’t win the cup also underachieved?

 

[Osakahaus]

The reality is that we have to trade both Martin and Clutterbuck. I hope Lamoriello understands that, because we need to keep Engvall

 

[seafoam]

Said this earlier but I agree. Cheaper and younger options to replace CC and Martin. Its also why I hope we keep Engvall

He has higher potential than that.

 

[Lights911]

Have the 31 teams that didn’t win the cup also underachieved?

What does that have to do with anything I said?

 

[xECK29x]

 

[MJF]

Just feels like we’re stuck in purgatory. We’re so married to our core more than any other team it feels if this group doesn’t get it done this year it’s time to start selling off the vets if we can.

Lou stuck by this core, now he's stuck with them.

Bailey, Nelson, Lee, Cizikas, Martin, Clutterbuck, Pageau, Barzal, Pelech, Pulock. All but Nelson are overpaid, over-termed, or both. Most are unmovable.

 

[Osakahaus]

Just feels like we’re stuck in purgatory. We’re so married to our core more than any other team it feels if this group doesn’t get it done this year it’s time to start selling off the vets if we can.

They have to play to their worth. Get the defenseman, and lets ride with a full season of bo and barzy

 

[seafoam]

Bode Wilde for sure and probably Blade Jenkins, maybe Collin Adams.

Lou stuck by this core, now he's stuck with them.

Bailey, Nelson, Lee, Cizikas, Martin, Clutterbuck, Pageau, Barzal, Pelech, Pulock. All but Nelson are overpaid, over-termed, or both. Most are unmovable.

Didn’t even mention Palmieri who’s like a 3.5M per player right now.

 

[Osakahaus]

Kostin for Clutterbuck work?

 

[seafoam]

I thought Schneider retired, but anyway I wouldn’t be surprised if Lamoriello had a two year, 2.5M per deal with Varlamov signed and sealed in his desk.

NYI will be running Sorokin/Varlamov and BPT will be running Skarek/Lennox next season. Book it!

 

[eoin92]

Lou stuck by this core, now he's stuck with them.

Bailey, Nelson, Lee, Cizikas, Martin, Clutterbuck, Pageau, Barzal, Pelech, Pulock. All but Nelson are overpaid, over-termed, or both. Most are unmovable.

Yeah, but this is Snow’s team really.

 

[doublechili]

If there were "a few" RFAs not qualified, this is our list of RFAs:

Wilde
Adams
Jenkins
Skarek
Wahlstrom

So maybe the first 3 guys?

 

[Tahoeblue]

The reality is that we have to trade both Martin and Clutterbuck. I hope Lamoriello understands that, because we need to keep Engvall

Totally agree. Even just for picks and maybe try to move up in the draft to acquire mid level picks. Martin surprised me last year with a mini resurgence but I think the cliff comes quickly. Young playoff teams may be interested. Same for Ross the Boss.

The issue is not jus cap relief but also roster spots. Just my 2 cents

 

[Lights911]

Lou stuck by this core, now he's stuck with them.

Bailey, Nelson, Lee, Cizikas, Martin, Clutterbuck, Pageau, Barzal, Pelech, Pulock. All but Nelson are overpaid, over-termed, or both. Most are unmovable.

Very deflating reality.

 

[Tahoeblue]

I hope this means Timo Meier is about to break the bank for the Devils. Others may know better but don't they need some help on the backend and in goal?

 

[Osakahaus]

Totally agree. Even just for picks and maybe try to move up in the draft to acquire mid level picks. Martin surprised me last year with a mini resurgence but I think the cliff comes quickly. Young playoff teams may be interested. Same for Ross the Boss.

The issue is not jus cap relief but also roster spots. Just my 2 cents

Also the idea of being resourceful with the cap. We need to get younger, edmonton needs experience for the hump. Clutterbuck would slot in nicely with Derek Ryan.

 

[SI90]

They have to play to their worth. Get the defenseman, and lets ride with a full season of bo and barzy

I wouldn’t mind a swing for Hanifin if it’s possible.