If they plan to move Barzal back to Center it makes One Center expendable. That means Pageau (I Think His Best Days are behind him) could go in a deal along with a cheaper alternative D Man Like Salo plus a Mid round (3rd or 4th) Pick. That probably won't get it done though...
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If they plan to move Barzal back to Center it makes One Center expendable. That means Pageau (I Think His Best Days are behind him) could go in a deal along with a cheaper alternative D Man Like Salo plus a Mid round (3rd or 4th) Pick. That probably won't get it done though...
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I would rather pay one of them than pay Mayfield lol (Yes I know the pricetag is higher)
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Never once said or inferred that. You interpreted incorrectly and I clarified my thoughts on Sorokin in detail here:
https://forums.hfboards.com/threads/roster-rumors-speculation-trade-talk-2022-23-eyes-toward-the-draft.2890152/post-190732233
Wish you would reply to my actual opinion instead of incorrectly going for blood right out of the gate.
YearlyLottery
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It's wonderful that you don't need a superstar goalie to win. But you are implying with the post that the islanders don't need one. If you didn't mean it that's fine. Not sure what else to say.
Shouldn't even cost that, to be honest.
If he sees a situation he likes, he'll go there for minimum wage.
doublechili
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Agreed. BOS makes a lot of sense. TBL maybe. CAR, FLA, etc.. Usual suspects.
But if he is not 100%, makes no sense unless it's really league minimum to 1 Mil per year. I worry about the Achilles injury, it's a horrendous one....
SI
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Pacioretty would be someone I look into
EDIT - I wonder if Isles could pry Horvat's cousin - Konecny from philly
EDIT - I wonder if Isles could pry Horvat's cousin - Konecny from philly
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IslesNorway
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Trade proposals are fun, but try to think of the current state of the Isles roster when dreaming of players they can get in a trade.
Players who will not be moved: Barzal, Horvat, Pelech, Pulock
Players with lots of trade value: Nelson, Sorokin, Dobson
Players with some trade value: Romanov, Wahlstrom, Pageau, possibly Holmstrom
Players with little to no trade value: Palmieri, Lee, Cizikas, Marrtin, Clutterbuck, Aho
Players with absolutely no trade value whatsoever: Bailey, Fasching, Johnston
Prospects with some value as add ons: Dufour, Bolduc, Odelius
That's basically it. Not a lot to work with unless you're dealing picks away.
Players who will not be moved: Barzal, Horvat, Pelech, Pulock
Players with lots of trade value: Nelson, Sorokin, Dobson
Players with some trade value: Romanov, Wahlstrom, Pageau, possibly Holmstrom
Players with little to no trade value: Palmieri, Lee, Cizikas, Marrtin, Clutterbuck, Aho
Players with absolutely no trade value whatsoever: Bailey, Fasching, Johnston
Prospects with some value as add ons: Dufour, Bolduc, Odelius
That's basically it. Not a lot to work with unless you're dealing picks away.
Skip To My Lou
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Agreed, I'd just rather Hanifin due to his age, and higher offensive upside.
seafoam
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For what it's going to cost to get Konecny, you're better off acquiring Garland.
The Islanders can't afford to trade 1st + Dufour/Maggio for Konecny.
Nelson-Barzal-Garland
Engvall-Horvat-Palmieri
Lee-Pageau-Fasching
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck
Johnston
AHL:
Iskhakov-Andreoff-Holmstrom
Durandeau-Koivula-Dufour
X-MacLean-Maggio
When Clutterbuck gets banged up, slide Fasching down and call up whoever is performing the best in Bridgeport.
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You forgot Eetu Liukas. I would think 14 goals in 58 games in Liiga would slot you into a top 6 roll in the AHL. Maybe a Liukas-Koivula_Dufour line. That's a big heavy line. Durandeau and Maggio would make a nice speedy energy pairing.
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Maybe just trade Barzal (a 60 point player at $9.125 cal hit) that doesn’t really mesh with anyone?
Obtain a winger and d-man on the return. Or an assets used to obtain similar. Let a team like WPG get a cost controlled locked in contract that works for them. The Isles redistribute their roster and cap space.
Lou intentionally made sure he had an out on Barzal’s deal by not giving him any NT protection in year 1 of it - that’s kinda telling that if Lou didn’t think he progressed, then he had an out to move on.
Lou gave trade protection from year 1 of a new contract to Horvat, JPG, Lee, Nelson, Pulock, except Pelech didn’t, but got it year 2 plus to provide insight into how Lou structures deals.
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SI
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Probably right - I am huge advocate for Garland - you forgot Wahlstrom.
I don’t think Isles can do both - Engvall or Garland unless they sign Schenn over Mayefield. or Patches at 1/1.5 with incentives instead of Engvall
Need to split up Garland and Barzal to get enough speed throughout the line up.
I agree Nelson and Barzal combo works better than Horvat Barzal
I hope Maggio is playing in a top 6 role move Holmstrom over to the LW and drop Durandeau to LW3 and sign Jay O’Brien at C pushing Maclean 4C
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SI
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I do wonder if a trade for Jake Rathbone and Connor Garland could be done. Rathbone must make the team - he is no longer waiver exempt. Rathbone and Aho can battle for that 6th spot.
A price similar to Bjorkstrand should get the deal done for Garland. Canucks need to fix their D and with the new capspace they may throw their full force at Dumba and Graves. They have enough young F to cover the loss of Garland.
The Isles could also explore the Pageau for Garland deal and sign a free agent like Barbashev or Bertuzzi, both fit Isles style of play.
Barbashev Barzal Wahlstrom
Lee Horvat Garland
Engvall Nelson Palmieri
A price similar to Bjorkstrand should get the deal done for Garland. Canucks need to fix their D and with the new capspace they may throw their full force at Dumba and Graves. They have enough young F to cover the loss of Garland.
The Isles could also explore the Pageau for Garland deal and sign a free agent like Barbashev or Bertuzzi, both fit Isles style of play.
Barbashev Barzal Wahlstrom
Lee Horvat Garland
Engvall Nelson Palmieri
doublechili
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Trading Barzal seems like an "out there" idea, but there is that 22 team NTC that Lou intentionally held back to year 2 of the contract (kind of interesting he was able to get that done). Barzal + what for Lindholm and Hanifin?
PWJunior
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Um, isn't the reason Barzal didn't get trade protection in Year 1 of his deal because he wasn't eligible to? I thought you have to be of a certain age or tenure to qualify. Barzal's NHL clock didn't start until his Draft+3 season as his ELC slid twice so wouldn't that help explain why he couldn't get any trade protection? Just saying...
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Seems like that may be true. Oh well, he hasn’t earned his former and future payday, so hopefully Lou exercises his window to reallocate assets/players and moves on.
Isles are paying $9.1M plus for a player not even in the top 50 in the league.
Seems like that may be true. Oh well, he hasn’t earned his former and future payday, so hopefully Lou exercises his window to reallocate assets/players and moves on.
Isles are paying $9.1M plus for a player not even in the top 50 in the league.
doublechili
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It's fun coming up with trade ideas, and there are some good ones here. However, I'll be surprised if Lou does anything more than re-sign UFAs, make Bailey go away, and maybe do one or two smaller housekeeping/cap moves. One can hope though....
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Just got to ignore that dude - don’t engage.
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