Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[Chapin Landvogt]

Obviously he meant between now and the deadline.

Horvat was indeed something we sorely needed but this team still needs more if it is his envision to compete this season. You can't keep filling your forward group with a bunch of B-rate prospects and extremely limited offensive veterans and expect to contend.

Having one of Martin and Johnston in there every night is bad enough, having both is demoralizing. Johnston hasn't scored an NHL goal in over a year. Then we have Hudson Fasching (4 goals in 67 career NHL games) who we are being forced to give 20 shifts a night coupled to what is usually 2-3 second rate prospects combining for another 30-35 minutes of ice time.

You aren't contending doing that, even if Barzal comes back.....period.

So, you have one of two options- either add and make this team somewhat resembling a sleeper of a contender (mainly with the hope it would be just enough offense if your stud goalie goes on shutdown mode) or facing the harsh reality that losing Barzal for an extended period erased the single tiny, minute, longshot, miracle chance you had anyway and look to sell what you can to help you not only in 2023-24 but for the Islanders future....

Doing neither would be an absolute failure...

The hockey people I chat with outside of Islanderville have - pretty much across the line - expressd to me that if you make the kind of move necessary to obtain a Bo Horvat (i.e. pay the price necessary) and it's not enough to safely have your team in the playoffs, you have no business paying anymore prices to invest in that particular outfit, 'cause the reasons why the team isn't safely in a playoff spot are, in essence, too deep and expanse to meaningfully erase with anymore deadline day purchases.

So, yes, the view I'm hearing is that there's no sense in further purchasing and it would be a real loss of opportunity not to sell, especially with several currently safe PO teams having a strong need for goaltending and a bonafide defensive Dman.

Just passing that outsider vantage point along...

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Lou should take note.We’re not getting the marquee UFAs so taking a short term flier on a mid tier guy you can flip later is a solid move.

They only did that because they're bad this year. Doing that deliberately is video game shit. Nobody does that unless they're intentionally bad.

 

[WangMustGo]

3 firsts, a second in 24, third and fourth in 25

No thanks, we already have a bottom of the barrel prospect pool, and dont have the capspace to fit another 9 million a year player.

 

[Lek]

No thanks, we already have a bottom of the barrel prospect pool, and dont have the capspace to fit another 9 million a year player.

then tear it all down and call it a rebuild now because any prospects from 2024/25 and 26 will not be any help to this core till after they are all in their or close to or in their 30's. Spend it all and rebuild come 2026/27/28

 

[WangMustGo]

then tear it all down and call it a rebuild now because any prospects from 2024/25 and 26 will not be any help to this core till after they are all in their or close to or in their 30's. Spend it all and rebuild come 2026/27/28

Barzal took 2 years before he hit 85 points, Dobson was a regular after 2 years. You can retool on the fly, but you have to draft well. Seems like Meier is going to NJ anyway.

Get to the offseason and reevaluate.

 

[SI90]

This scares the shit out of me. We can’t be adding unless it’s long term.

 

[The Wahligator]

This scares the shit out of me. We can’t be adding unless it’s long term.

Give me Domi and extend him for the top line. Figure out the cap in the offseason like every other team.

 

[SI90]

Give me Domi and extend him for the top line. Figure out the cap in the offseason like every other team.

I’d love Domi. Just hope the price isn’t crazy

 

[GOLFWANG]

someone is saying Buchnevich haha not a real twitter btw just a random

 

[SI90]

 

[The Wahligator]

someone is saying Buchnevich haha not a real twitter btw just a random

Apparently Vegas and STL had a deal in place to send Buchnevich to Vegas but it fell through, so he can be had. That would be an amazing add.

 

[doublechili]

Trotz is apparently joining NAS effective immediately. I assume he'll kind of co-GM or be like an assistant to Poile. But it's his team moving forward, so you wonder if that would include the TDL. He always loved Pulock, among others. Just saying.

 

[GOLFWANG]

who is this twitter guy haha

 

[The Wahligator]

who is this twitter guy haha

Look out, 77 followers!! Ordering my Buch jersey as we speak!!

 

[SI90]

Apparently Vegas and STL had a deal in place to send Buchnevich to Vegas but it fell through, so he can be had. That would be an amazing add.

I’d kill for it!!!!! And it would piss rags off

 

[Chardo]

Trotz is apparently joining NAS effective immediately. I assume he'll kind of co-GM or be like an assistant to Poile. But it's his team moving forward, so you wonder if that would include the TDL. He always loved Pulock, among others. Just saying.

Trotz and NAS could cut a killer rap song.

 

[SI90]

People are speculating Lou would like a guy like Tanner Jeanott from NSH. Big guy works hard but he doesn’t do it for me unless we’re not giving up anything significant. Had a big year last year and isn’t replicating his production this year.

 

[gordie43]

Watching the cap gymnastics these teams are playing to make these deals is very interesting.

 

[ALEXIVICH CHULKATURI]

Don’t you dare underestimate Lou’s ability to find a way to trade a future 1st round pick for an average player.

A healthy Anders Lee away from winning a cup you spam malaka. Some serious Andy Kauffman vibes I be getting here. This spammer probably typing this with his Lucien Dubois jersey on. Nobody is buying your act we’re on to you bouste.

 

[Chardo]

Buchnevich still has that Ranger stink on him. It never comes off.

 

[Taswell]

Buchnevich still has that Ranger stink on him. It never comes off.

Not as much stink as KA Miller who just got a match penalty for spitting in Doughty's face. Scumbags, the lot of em.

 

[WangMustGo]

Buchnevich still has that Ranger stink on him. It never comes off.

Id take him and id love watching rangers fans cry over it.

Speaking of rangers scum, Miller just spit on Doughty. He deserves to get the absolute balls beat off him.

 

[SI90]

I don’t know if it’s plausible but some are saying if Miller is suspended it can have cap implications and possibly affect the Kane deal lol that would be hilarious. NYR are holding guys out to gain cap space lol

 

[Big L]

And the rags are up 3-0 with only 4 defensemen?

 

[Skip To My Lou]

Feel like Buchnevich is apart of the future in St. Louis. Him, Kyrou, and Thomas seem to be the building blocks for their rebuild. Can't see him getting traded.