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PWJunior said:
I think Holmstrom could be a pretty good option for the Borvat Wonder Twins on the top line. He skates well enough to excel on the rush with such a fast pace line, competes, is defensively responsible, and is an opportunistic goal scorer. He has been attached to Pageau's hip all season, but he has shown some surprisingly decent playmaking ability with his new linemates where he has looked very good - possibly the best he's looked all season. I think it could work out well in case Nelson is traded any time before the start of next season or Roy breaks up the "Helicopter Line". There is definite upside there.

If Holmy Does Play Dat, that would be pretty big. A 25-goal, 60-point, 2-way winger who complements Barzal and Horvat is a possible outcome. Just saying...
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He started the season on that line, but Lambert lost patience. I wanted him to get a longer look. I like Holmstrom's skillset and think he could do well there. With that said, if we can continue the balanced scoring, i like loading up on the top line.
 
The Real JT said:
This board is amusing, it can’t be denied.

Lose some games and nearly everyone is for sale. Win a few and we need to add at the TDL (using what assets is anyone’s guess).

Please Lou, I don’t ask for a lot but is doing nothing too much?
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If it's raining out you bring an umbrella, if it's clear you don't.
 
periferal said:
Your optimism is to be commended. Truly.

The problem is you’re comparing the Isles to the average teams they need to beat out just to get the 8th seed - Not the elite teams the Isles would have to play in the playoffs.

Is the goal here to just make the playoffs…Or actually win a Cup? Because if we’re being honest with ourselves, we have no shot at that this season.

And if you subscribe to the “if we just make the playoffs anything can happen” philosophy, you’ll pardon me if I don’t buy into that as the person who promoted that the most around here the last decade was Garth Snow.

The standings don’t lie. This is not the same team from 3-4 years ago that was younger, more talented on D, and coached by the best possible coach for that roster.

It’s just time to admit it already, make plans to get this team back to Cup contention, and stop denying reality to have false hope.



*Feel free to tag this post and call me out on it at any point as long as Lou is still GM. However if this team continues to get worse and miss the playoffs again, make sure I get at least a “like” on it ok?
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Yes, the goal is to make the playoffs. Then, the goal shifts to winning the cup.
 
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doublechili said:
Who are the elite teams in the East that would block the Isles from the Finals if they could make the playoffs? In other words, which East teams can you say, "yeah, we have zero chance against them in a 7 game series"? Florida would be tough, granted. But not impossible. And no other team scares me. It's a sea of mediocrity in the East this year.
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I was thinking this the other day. The only two teams that scare me are Florida and the Rags (just because of Shesterkin and what version we get). Everyone else is beatable.
 
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The Real JT said:
I’m guessing Jason Bay was your favorite Met, Sonny Gray your favorite Yankee and you enjoy watching Joey Chestnut at the annual July 4th Nathan’s hot dog eating contest.
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Colt McCoy was his favorite football player.
 
impaaaaaact said:
20 goals in his rookie season yes. Watch some clips or go on the senators boards to see what they think about him. There isn’t a good reason for him to be available
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If Shane Pinto were available, and there were evidence that he's checking out wrt to character, etc. then he would be a very valuable asset. Best comparison imo would be a young Ryan O'Reilly but with a little bit less of a track record (because of the suspension). imo if he were considered pretty clean from a character pov, everyone would be in on him. And if there are unknowns there, NYI don't even consider him.

If I were the Senators & NYI approached, I'd want a very good young player in return that addresses a weakness. So, Romanov to start.
 
saintunspecified said:
If Shane Pinto were available, and there were evidence that he's checking out wrt to character, etc. then he would be a very valuable asset. Best comparison imo would be a young Ryan O'Reilly but with a little bit less of a track record (because of the suspension). imo if he were considered pretty clean from a character pov, everyone would be in on him. And if there are unknowns there, NYI don't even consider him.

If I were the Senators & NYI approached, I'd want a very good young player in return that addresses a weakness. So, Romanov to start.
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The send have a lot of talent on the LD, I think the sens would ask for Pulock. Hard no for me.
 
saintunspecified said:
If Shane Pinto were available, and there were evidence that he's checking out wrt to character, etc. then he would be a very valuable asset. Best comparison imo would be a young Ryan O'Reilly but with a little bit less of a track record (because of the suspension). imo if he were considered pretty clean from a character pov, everyone would be in on him. And if there are unknowns there, NYI don't even consider him.

If I were the Senators & NYI approached, I'd want a very good young player in return that addresses a weakness. So, Romanov to start.
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Romanov makes sense from an “approaching value” perspective but most would argue that all three of their LD are better than him - they are going to need to move one before the trade deadline next season. We don’t have another player close to him in value, which is why I was openly pontificating about a Tkachuk + Pinto for Dobson deal that people here (understandably) were not too excited about.

Pinto has had a weird start to his career because of the gambling suspension and the injury in what was supposed to be his rookie year - even so he’a playing at a 70 point pace on a bad team in his sophomore season. I think it’s fair to question if him being available means there are character issues - just can’t see Lou being interested if there are.

He’s probably their fourth most valuable
player behind Stutzle, Tkachuk, and Sanderson. Those 4 +Norris, Batherson and Chychrun are all under 25. Doesn’t sound like a core you want to starting messing with when you’re in last and you’re in a B market.

I think the closest comparison I could make to them trading pinto now would be us trading Dobson last season. Young player playing well at an important position with room to grow. Why would we ever do that?
 
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