Roster Building XXI: It Gon' Go Down.

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

While we’re here how about we include flipping our return for Necas in a package for a big and physical top 6 right handed RW who’s a good net front presence to help balance out the lines?

Not a RW, but Crouse was my personal #1 choice as a Necas return...he's probably not available, though.

 

[CandyCanes]

My only qualms are the Canes are potentially signing a soon-to-be-30 year old top-6er and trading a 25 year old top-6er, which isn't the usual way of business for the Canes. Considering the Necas trade request, though, it makes perfect sense in that context. Get the assets for a guy who wants 1st line minutes elsewhere and maintain our firepower moving forward.

But we’re probably trading for a 18-19 year old. So it buffs out

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

My only qualms are the Canes are potentially signing a soon-to-be-30 year old top-6er and trading a 25 year old top-6er, which isn't the usual way of business for the Canes. Considering the Necas trade request, though, it makes perfect sense in that context. Get the assets for a guy who wants 1st line minutes elsewhere and maintain our firepower moving forward.

Im preparing my body to hate the Guentzel contract

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Im preparing my body to hate the Guentzel contract

I'm not going to love or hate it, truthfully, but if our normally-frugal FO finds the contract that they're about to give out fair, I'm mostly inclined to support it. I try my best to stay humble because I think that, in the end, it makes me look smarter than I actually am.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Expectations are signing Guentzel tomorrow and trading necas

Your feelings or new reporting?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Your feelings or new reporting?

Latest Friedman interviews with other team podcasts coupled with Seravalli makes it sound like it’s really close.

Friedman did say we expect that Necas is gone

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I heard that Saros is close to agreeing on an 8 year extension worth $7.74M AAV. Now he's going to be traded for Necas!

 

[WreckingCrew]

Not a RW, but Crouse was my personal #1 choice as a Necas return...he's probably not available, though.

What is everyone's obsession with a 20G 40-45PT player because he's a bit physical? That would be a massive offensive downgrade from Necas

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

What is everyone's obsession with a 20G 40-45PT player because he's a bit physical? That would be a massive offensive downgrade from Necas

Premium play-styles are a thing. Crouse provides an interior presence that gives us a different look in the top-6 vs. the more perimeter-oriented play of Necas and Teravainen.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Latest Friedman interviews with other team podcasts coupled with Seravalli makes it sound like it’s really close.

Friedman did say we expect that Necas is gone

Links would be appreciated.

 

[cptjeff]

Im preparing my body to hate the Guentzel contract

Just remember, the cap is going up significantly and we'll still be paying him well less than Aho, who his production is close to identical to.

 

[cptjeff]

Links would be appreciated.

Saw on Twitter that it was on an Oilers show live, but the recording wasn't up yet when posted.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806490051515412551

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Saw on Twitter that it was on an Oilers show live, but the recording wasn't up yet when posted.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806490051515412551

Oilers Now with Bob Stauffer | Global News

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Friedman wasn’t that definitive as the tweet. Their reports are more and more positive sounding. So im putting my stamp on it

 

[Canes]

I am prepared to be whelmed

 

[A Star is Burns]

There are certainly some worries if we do end up signing Jake to the big long term contract, but I think the way all the other contracts and ages are staggered, including the pending Slavin contract, we can handle it. And if that frees us to move Necas for whatever the best value is, I'll be pretty content. At that point, it'll just be interesting to see how all the other moves shape up to fill out the roster.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

There are certainly some worries if we do end up signing Jake to the big long term contract, but I think the way all the other contracts and ages are staggered, including the pending Slavin contract, we can handle it. And if that frees us to move Necas for whatever the best value is, I'll be pretty content. At that point, it'll just be interesting to see how all the other moves shape up to fill out the roster.

Im more worried about skjei. Having 2 simultaneous aging defensive contracts is concerning. But yea 1 aging forward deal and 1 aging defender deal will be okay.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Im more worried about skjei. Having 2 simultaneous aging defensive contracts is concerning. But yea 1 aging forward deal and 1 aging defender deal will be okay.

Is there a report of being closer on him now too? It's hard to keep up with everything. While I've always said I'd keep Skjei over Pesce, I agree that if things shake out with Jake and Jaccob that having another aging long term deal is when things could get sticky. Especially with two on D where it's harder to hide a guy.

 

[robbieberns]

Slavin and Guentzel are two guys I feel pretty comfortable having signed well into their 30s. Both play smart high IQ games and rely on reading plays to put them in the best positions to succeed.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Im more worried about skjei. Having 2 simultaneous aging defensive contracts is concerning. But yea 1 aging forward deal and 1 aging defender deal will be okay.

To me, the only way that Skjei stays a Cane is the short-term/high-dollar route. With Nikishin in tow, loading the left side short-term makes sense as a way for Nikishin to gradually adjust to the NHL.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Is there a report of being closer on him now too? It's hard to keep up with everything. While I've always said I'd keep Skjei over Pesce, I agree that if things shake out with Jake and Jaccob that having another aging long term deal is when things could get sticky. Especially with two on D where it's harder to hide a guy.

60/40 on bringing him back was what i saw.

 

[spockBokk]

I’m still pessimistic about them actually getting Guentzel signed, but since they’ve been hell bent on trading Necas, they almost have to get it done.

 

[A Star is Burns]

60/40 on bringing him back was what i saw.

Is that from the LeBrun report?

 

[To Be Determined]

My big hope for jake g (only if we sign him, natch) is that that random pens fan who described him as very much like ray whitney is right. If he ages like the wizard, he'll sign a couple more contracts somewhere after his theoretical 8 years with us.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

60/40 on bringing him back was what i saw.

Apparently the contracts being offered to Skjei were "unconventional", at least a few months ago. I assume that this is code-speak for the Orlov contract.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Is that from the LeBrun report?

Yea

Apparently the contracts being offered to Skjei were "unconventional", at least a few months ago. I assume that this is code-speak for the Orlov contract.

I thought it was something along a range of different contracts including unconventional one.