Roster Building XXI: It Gon' Go Down.

[moses malone 12]

seravalli said Reinhart turned down 8 x 9.5 from Florida. Teams better be willing to offer 7 x 11.5 (if thats true).

i think teams will be disappointed as he is more of a 35 goal scorer, not a 50 guy.

$9M aav for guentzel. thank you for supporting my theory.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

$9M aav for guentzel. thank you for supporting my theory.

that 2 year age difference brings it down.

 

[Unsustainable]

My guess is 8y sub 70m for Guentzel happens soon.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

My guess is 8y sub 70m for Guentzel happens soon.

prolly sub 70 but more than 0.

 

[bleedgreen]

Interesting article for those who are on the athletic by Arthur Staple. It’s about the use of analytics and how it impacts this time of year. Tulsky is quoted a few times and surprisingly states that at this point of the season we start with the scouts and their eye tests. Says analytics in general may eliminate a player that’s on the extremes of the model but that most players are in the middle. Surprising coming from the one hockey nerd to rule them all.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5581697/2024/06/27/nhl-free-agency-data/?source=user_shared_article

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Meh, the more we've gotten to know Tulsky over the last 10 years the less surprising stuff like that is.

It's a sign of a strong analytics expert to know what the data says... and what it doesn't say.

At this point, he's the GM of the hockey team. The very, very clear MO has been inputting all information (analytics, scouting, etc.) and streamlining it into a decision making process to make the best possible decisions.

I think 10 years ago it was already more or less disrespectful to paint Tulsky as only the "numbers" guy. Now it's simply and flat out inaccurate. Instead, I imagine he'd prefer to be known as the leader of "a data-driven organization", which is a very, very different statement than "an organization that blindly does what the numbers tell it to."

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806701521226301613

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Kaplan's offseason buzz: Latest on Steven Stamkos, Jake Guentzel and more around the NHL

NHL free agency starts on July 1. Could Patrick Kane return to Detroit? What's the latest on Jake Guentzel and Carolina. Here's everything we're hearing.

www.espn.com

Nothing that doesn’t jive with previous reporting. Just seeing the talk of Pesce and Teravainen in more definitive terms is a bit sad. It’s really the end of an era

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806701521226301613

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Kaplan's offseason buzz: Latest on Steven Stamkos, Jake Guentzel and more around the NHL

NHL free agency starts on July 1. Could Patrick Kane return to Detroit? What's the latest on Jake Guentzel and Carolina. Here's everything we're hearing.

www.espn.com

Nothing that doesn’t jive with previous reporting. Just seeing the talk of Pesce and Teravainen in more definitive terms is a bit sad. It’s really the end of an era

Dreger saying we essentially met JG's ask. Its ups to JG to decide if he likes the fit long term. he said closing up shop with TSN last night everything was pointed towards JG re-signing but it hasnt happened yet

crap is all over the place and most of these guys are unreliable.

First Up: June 28th, 2024 - Hour 4 - First Up with Korolnek & Colaiacovo

The fourth and final hour of First Up with Aaron Korolnek and Carlo Colaiacovo as we welcome Raptors GM Bobby Webster to the show to discuss a busy couple of days for the team. We are also joined by hockey insider Darren Dreger to look ahead to Free Agent Frenzy and give you our FanDuel best bets

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32 minute mark

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

It's interesting to see how the Carolina FO truly sees Guentzel as THE guy, in the Aho/Slavin core player category. It's not their normal behavior, but it gets me very excited for the coming year.

 

[A Star is Burns]

As long as we have a good plan to pivot to if things fall through, it sounds like they've given it the best effort they can.

 

[bleedgreen]

The only way it's OK to lose Guentzel is if we have a replacement of equal or better talent lined up. If we don't, then we're letting talented players walk for no reason.

I think the reason we’re upping our offers and trying so hard to make this work is that we don’t like the options out there to replace either Jake or Necas. There’s only so many players available that can help and prices are high. Even with Jake staying, we’d really only have four top six forwards, five if you think Rod will play Kuzy there. We’re a one line team if we don’t get Jake and then trade Necas.

Apparently Dreger is saying we met Jake’s asking price….

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Cam Atkinson would be a decent league minimum addition now that he is getting bought out

 

[User13452]

I wonder if Dreger leaked that to get Vancouver to maybe say hey we are willing to go this high or maybe another team we aren’t aware of.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Cam Atkinson would be a decent league minimum addition now that he is getting bought out

Pass, we need some physicality not more smurfs who put up 30 pts

 

[robbieberns]

Necas to Philly for their first after that Atkinson buyout?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

on his live show Seravalli said Guentzel would get something around 7 x 9.5 million in Vancouver. That would be 8 x 8.3 million. that would include an extra 2.8 million in tax savings too.

 

[User13452]

on his live show Seravalli said Guentzel would get something around 7 x 9.5 million in Vancouver. That would be 8 x 8.3 million

I’m not believing anything from anyone unless it’s Lebrun he’s most connected with the canes.

 

[Svechhammer]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806701521226301613

…

Kaplan's offseason buzz: Latest on Steven Stamkos, Jake Guentzel and more around the NHL

NHL free agency starts on July 1. Could Patrick Kane return to Detroit? What's the latest on Jake Guentzel and Carolina. Here's everything we're hearing.

www.espn.com

Nothing that doesn’t jive with previous reporting. Just seeing the talk of Pesce and Teravainen in more definitive terms is a bit sad. It’s really the end of an era

With all due respect, Seravalli doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to what is going on with our franchise. He often stirs the pot and its usually baseless.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806727559398179134

A PP merchant is not a negative with this franchise.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I doubt we'd be high on the list of Stamkos suitors should it really come to pass, but it'd be neat.

 

[DaveG]

With all due respect, Seravalli doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to what is going on with our franchise. He often stirs the pot and its usually baseless.

Vancouver fans seem to have a similar opinion on him from what I've seen. I don't think much of Dregger either but he's far more credible than Servalli.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Idk. He’d have a chance to win here. Rod has a great reputation. It wouldn’t be a lifestyle shock.

Orlov pitched himself, Burns waived his NMC and Tkachuk put this market on his shortlist for reasons.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Idk. He’d have a chance to win here. Rod has a great reputation. It wouldn’t be a lifestyle shock.

Orlov pitched himself, Burns waived his NMC and Tkachuk put this market on his shortlist for reasons.

he was rumored to be coming here before the magical back surgery of kucherov saving Tampa's cap situation

 

[Svechhammer]

Vancouver fans seem to have a similar opinion on him from what I've seen. I don't think much of Dregger either but he's far more credible than Servalli.

I prefer Friedman

Speaking of which

 

[robbieberns]

What wing does Stamkos play?

Gurntzel - Aho - Jarvis
Svechnikov - KK - Stamkos

Guentzel - Aho - Svech
Stamkos - KK - Jarvis

Don’t hate the look of either of those