Roster Building XXI: It Gon' Go Down.
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dogbazinho
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I'd trade Necas for a prospect or a not-old D with some term like Andersson.
Isn’t it a touch odd that none of the Canes’ UFAs re-signed mid-season? Surely they could have extended, say, Martinook the heart and soul guy?
Maybe no one wanted to, maybe in-season negotiation isn’t something the Canes do, I just find it weird that with so much roster uncertainty upcoming for the summer of 2024, they didn’t try to mitigate some of it.
Maybe they did. No idea. But this isnt close to an ideal situation.
Maybe no one wanted to, maybe in-season negotiation isn’t something the Canes do, I just find it weird that with so much roster uncertainty upcoming for the summer of 2024, they didn’t try to mitigate some of it.
Maybe they did. No idea. But this isnt close to an ideal situation.
Everything that isn’t tied down is going right out the door. If nothing else, these next few days should be fun.
Unsustainable
Seth Jarvis has Big Kahunas
Another thought, we knew that DW was leaving and he wasn't given the ability to sign players.
baconandbread
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We should go after that 40 goal scorer from Tampa now.
Unsustainable
Seth Jarvis has Big Kahunas
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Svech - Jarvis - ??
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Lemuix - Staal - Fast
Slavin - Burns
Orlov - Chatfield
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If we cut out Necas, KK, Kuz....
Tell me again it's not a rebuild.
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Svech - Jarvis - ??
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Lemuix - Staal - Fast
Slavin - Burns
Orlov - Chatfield
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If we cut out Necas, KK, Kuz....
Tell me again it's not a rebuild.
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dogbazinho
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It seems like every decision runs through TD. I suspect he wanted money for big game hunting and came up short.
Svechhammer
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I mean we are getting to the point where we are looking at a bit of a blow-up the roster kind of summer. And if we are going there, might as well entertain the idea of putting together a package for a major trade to load up our top lines.
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I don't think DW's departure was planned. Remember the interviews from Tulsky the few days afterwards? He was clearly caught off guard by the move. I think there was a good chance that DW would have signed a short-term deal, but whatever happened regarding the RBA contract that caused it to stumble at the end caused DW to move on.
Svechhammer
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Maybe saving all contract negotiations til the last minute isn't a wise business decision by Dundon. Hope he learns, but doubtful anything changes.
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I don't think he's saving it to the last minute. I think he's using every minute he has trying to get the best deal for him/his team. Unfortunately, I don't think he takes the opposing parties needs/wants into account while doing so, leaving situations like this one.
Identity404
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I think it might have played a part, he probably didn’t want to go through it after having just seen it with Rod. I don’t blame him one bit given the offseason we have. Imagine having that job, and also have to negotiate with Dundon for your own job at the same time? By all accounts he was already underpaid and overworked here.
robbieberns
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I think if we swing and miss on Stamkos/Marchessault you have to put together a strong package or two of futures to pry free players that would maybe have been thought to be unavailable.
They have to be careful because the position this team has been in and the expectations that have been set, the fan base and the core guys in the room won’t take a wasted year. No one is going to accept an excuse of things just didn’t line up how we wanted them to.
They have to be careful because the position this team has been in and the expectations that have been set, the fan base and the core guys in the room won’t take a wasted year. No one is going to accept an excuse of things just didn’t line up how we wanted them to.
Trade for Draisaitl and cause maximum chaos.
bleedgreen
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That’s probably why we won’t cut out all three of those. Sign Comtois, talk Necas off the ledge and we have enough forwards. Not a bad team. Swap Kk for a defenseman and sign a fourth liner for cheap. Kuzy will have to ride out a year I think. If he’s in good shape we’re a better team, and if we fall short he’s a rental to trade. Is will be Burns and Orlov.
Cardiac Jerks
Asinine & immoral
And then when oilers fans are upset about it tweet #cry at them.
Buenos Necas
lets go canes
Well that sucks, but I'm glad we got the 3rd without having to give Tampa the 8th year.
Let's see what we can do with this extra cap space. In the same way Tampa was able to swoop for Guentzel because of the space they cleared, we've now got some room to swoop in on an unexpected deal being it a free agent or taking on a contract ala the Patches deal. They'll spend the money somewhere.
Let's see what we can do with this extra cap space. In the same way Tampa was able to swoop for Guentzel because of the space they cleared, we've now got some room to swoop in on an unexpected deal being it a free agent or taking on a contract ala the Patches deal. They'll spend the money somewhere.
baconandbread
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Disappointed that we weren't able to get it done with Guentzel, but not upset. We're only a defenceman away from basically the same team that has been consistently one of the best in the league.
bleedgreen
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Nate Schmidt getting bought out, very respected teammate who can still play. Not a bad short term pick up for us.
Nikishin Go Boom
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He would make an excellent 1 year 2.5 mil 3rd pairing guy for morrow
bleedgreen
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I’d give him the second year if that’s what it takes to get it done. We can deal with having too many good defenseman for a year.
Borsig
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We are turbo, pesce, skjei, Marty and an uncertain necas away from our regular season which was far from confidence inducing
Me thinks the canes will at least have a couple deals tomorrow. Short a few top 6 forwards and these guys won’t last very long on the open market so I imagine we will be making a few signings tomorrow
WreckingCrew
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Not quite sure I agree there...Orlov - Chatty is a decent downgrade from Pesce - Skjei, as will the resulting 3rd pair. We're also down 2 top 6 forwards (Bunting & TT had 2nd line production even if not ideal), plus the Necas situation. Freddie may not be able to handle a full season and Kooch is still inconsistent at best. We're a handful away from being "basically the same" team
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