Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVIII - Dust in the wind…

[Lion Hound]

Any interest on Scheifele if he’s available? It sounds like Winnipeg wants to move on from him. Really good player with a decent cap hit and some term. He and Zibanejad would be a really good 1-2 punch down the middle

Love Scheifele! Would WPG deal though? They are 3 points out of the wildcard.

 

[SA16]

If we give Lehkonen a 5 year deal we should also look to give Rooney a 5 year deal that way we can re-create The Best Fourth Line in Hockey that Lou made for the Islanders when he signed all his depth guys long term and then couldn't afford any actual good players.

 

[Leetch3]

96?

Zendaya and Tom Holland Wear Matching Jerseys During New York Rangers Hockey Game in N.Y.C.

96 is the year they were both born...they had each others names on the jersey

Zendaya and Tom Holland Wear Jerseys With Each Other's Names on Date

 

[NYR Viper]

If we give Lehkonen a 5 year deal we should also look to give Rooney a 5 year deal that way we can re-create The Best Fourth Line in Hockey that Lou made for the Islanders when he signed all his depth guys long term and then couldn't afford any actual good players.

I know this is sarcastic, but the issue with long term deals for solid depth guys isn't really a problem if you pick and choose 2-3 guys who will be staples on the team. The issue is when you give long term deals to 85 guys who all should be bottom-6 guys.

Teams have cap crunches right now with the cap not increasing much and players would like guaranteed money, the happy medium is extend term to keep cap hits down.

 

[Vitto79]

If we give Lehkonen a 5 year deal we should also look to give Rooney a 5 year deal that way we can re-create The Best Fourth Line in Hockey that Lou made for the Islanders when he signed all his depth guys long term and then couldn't afford any actual good players.

why not get Clutterbuck for funsies

 

[TheBloodyNine]

JT Miller just continues to suck...

I can't imagine that they're going to wait too much longer before they start making some moves. This team desperately needs some reinforcements .

And Ryan strome is really doing anybody looking to resign him a favor lately, He's been absolutely awful

Usually guys in their contract year have amazing seasons, I think the silver lining here is he is hopefully saving us from ourself.

 

[effen]

Who cares about aartu deetuu in Finland not yanno the NHL lmao hey let's go back and wish we drafted X in rd. 2 with the benefit of hindsight

Fucn you larry

 

[Lion Hound]

Was looking through TSN's trade board this AM. Thought it was pretty funny that beat writers, columnists, and Hockey "Personalaties" have linked the Rangers to almost the entire top 15 players on the board.

 

[SA16]

I know this is sarcastic, but the issue with long term deals for solid depth guys isn't really a problem if you pick and choose 2-3 guys who will be staples on the team. The issue is when you give long term deals to 85 guys who all should be bottom-6 guys.

Teams have cap crunches right now with the cap not increasing much and players would like guaranteed money, the happy medium is extend term to keep cap hits down.

The issue is giving long term deals to any depth guys.

Here are the number of bottom six forwards signed to deals of at least 2.5M with at least 3 more years left on current playoff teams:

Pittsburgh - one (McGinn 2.75 x 3 left)
Carolina - zero
Rangers - one (Goodrow 3.6 x 5 left)
Washington - zero

Florida - zero
Tampa Bay - zero
Toronto - zero
Boston - zero (One if you count Coyle but he's supposed to be their 2C)

Colorado - zero
Minnesota - one (Greenway 3 x 3 and that's a 25 year old former first round pick who scored 32 in 56 last year)
St. Louis - hard to say because they run three lines but at the moment one - Saad 4.5 x 4 left but again this is a consistent 20 goal scorer with lots of top 6/pp time in his past and isn't a true depth guy
Nashville - one (Sissons 2.9 x 5 left)

Calgary - zero (Coleman is their 2nd line RW and 4th on the team in 5v5 TOI only behind their top line)
Vegas - zero
EDM - zero
LA - zero

Not a single team has multiple depth guys like that signed to reasonably pricy and long term deals. The Penguins, Rangers, and Predators are the only team with a true bottom six depth guy in that group.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

JT Miller with his third OT goal of the year, but hey, I was told he sucks or some shit because he dumps pucks in during overtime.

I doubt he'd get much 3v3 time here. The coach needs to get Kevin Rooney out there.

 

[EdJovanovski]

 

[Paul Padovano]

I doubt he'd get much 3v3 time here. The coach needs to get Kevin Rooney out there.

Yes, Rooney has had many 3 vs 3 shifts playing out there.

 

[haohmaru]

Bad for Nemeth IMHO

 

[EdJovanovski]

Bad for Nemeth IMHO

And Lundkvist

 

[Vitto79]

Bad for Nemeth IMHO

I’m gonna give him the benefit of the doubt . He’s got some things going on

didn’t help Lundkvist though

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Bad for Nemeth IMHO

But great for us! That pairing is what keeps me going, I will never criticize them. Schnieder-Jones pairing is to me what Krav is to @EdJovanovski

 

[haohmaru]

Who cares about aartu deetuu in Finland not yanno the NHL lmao hey let's go back and wish we drafted X in rd. 2 with the benefit of hindsight

Fucn you larry

A New Hope?

 

[rangersfansince08]

They looked good in preseason. Some fans said that was the future and looks great so far.
Think Lehkonen helps the 5 on5 issue too.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Who cares about aartu deetuu in Finland not yanno the NHL lmao hey let's go back and wish we drafted X in rd. 2 with the benefit of hindsight

Fucn you larry

That was a classic Larry Rangers dig (he will ALWAYS bow down to Lou).

THAT BEING SAID,

The crux of that article is 100% spot on. And if this coach make Drury go pay good assets for Ben Chariot because he "likes size" and that screws with Jones' development then we are f***ed with a capital F.

 

[NYR Viper]

The issue is giving long term deals to any depth guys.

Here are the number of bottom six forwards signed to deals of at least 2.5M with at least 3 more years left on current playoff teams:

Pittsburgh - one (McGinn 2.75 x 3 left)
Carolina - zero
Rangers - one (Goodrow 3.6 x 5 left)
Washington - zero

Florida - zero
Tampa Bay - zero
Toronto - zero
Boston - zero (One if you count Coyle but he's supposed to be their 2C)

Colorado - zero
Minnesota - one (Greenway 3 x 3 and that's a 25 year old former first round pick who scored 32 in 56 last year)
St. Louis - hard to say because they run three lines but at the moment one - Saad 4.5 x 4 left but again this is a consistent 20 goal scorer with lots of top 6/pp time in his past and isn't a true depth guy
Nashville - one (Sissons 2.9 x 5 left)

Calgary - zero (Coleman is their 2nd line RW and 4th on the team in 5v5 TOI only behind their top line)
Vegas - zero
EDM - zero
LA - zero

Not a single team has multiple depth guys like that signed to reasonably pricy and long term deals. The Penguins, Rangers, and Predators are the only team with a true bottom six depth guy in that group.

So this isn't exactly fair. Just for an example, Carolina has Jordan Staal playing 3C and he was signed long term originally. Martinook is on a 3 year deal, just re-signed, also a 3rd liner.

Nashville signed Scissons long term who was not more than a 3rd liner originally. They also signed Jarnkrok way back when who's contract is just now expiring. He's a 3rd liner.

Washington signed Hagelin (4 years), Hathaway (4 years) and Eller (5 years), all are 3rd liners (at best in Hathaway's case).

Pittsburgh just signed McGinn to a 4 year deal and signed Tanev to a long term deal but lost him to Seattle.

Winnipeg signed Lowry and very well may sign Copp long term shortly.

Vegas, by their addition of Eichel, pushed Karlsson down to the 3rd line, he's signed long term. They also signed Stephenson (who has improved since signing his deal) to a 4 year deal. He was pretty much a 3rd liner when he was signed (26 points in 65 games and 11 points in 64 games the 2 seasons prior to that contract being signed).

Good teams recognize guys who can help fill roles and keep them a while. I'm not saying hand out 6 year deals to every 3rd liner but having a couple of foundational swiss-army knife guys signed to 4-5-6 year deals isn't going to hinder them. Especially considering the cap will increase in a couple of years and when it does, it will go up quickly, making these longer term deals more attractive in general

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Love Scheifele! Would WPG deal though? They are 3 points out of the wildcard.

I think that's a summer procedure, but also a reason not to go crazy this deadline dealing assets.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Jones-Schneider looks really good. How do the davanced stats look besides the ones posted above?

 

[effen]

That was a classic Larry Rangers dig (he will ALWAYS bow down to Lou).

THAT BEING SAID,

The crux of that article is 100% spot on. And if this coach make Drury go pay good assets for Ben Chariot because he "likes size" and that screws with Jones' development then we are f***ed with a capital F.

James Dolan couldn't tell the difference between Ben Chiarot and a Roman chariot. He can see the Rangers get their asses beat regularly and punked by Tom Wilson last year. I think Drury understands the optics.

 

[MrAlmost]

Was looking through TSN's trade board this AM. Thought it was pretty funny that beat writers, columnists, and Hockey "Personalaties" have linked the Rangers to almost the entire top 15 players on the board.



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I sense something is afoot...

 

[Vitto79]

Sanford and Paul are big body UFAs in Ottawa