Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVI - It’s Miller Time…K-A

[wafflepadsave]

There are young still developing guys I’m not moving for anyone out there and certainly not middle aged high cap hit guys—Lafreniere, Kakko, K’Andre, Schneider. They are my deal breaker guys.

Absolutely! When teams ever give up their best prospects? Like never excluding the Rangers. Vegas gave a couple good players for eichel.

 

[wafflepadsave]

I agree with EJ. Montreal's interim coach got a 3 year contract extension last summer. $1.7M per. The Habs weren't planning to change coaches but things disintegrated so fast in Montreal. The players stopped listening to him. He lost them. The Habs are paying Julien $5M per. Something happened there. They lost to the Devils at home. 7-1.[/

 

[jay from jersey]

I’m torn on whether I am happy teams are interested in Kravstov or worried that the Canucks who just hired a bunch of smart people are very interested in Kravstov

Doesn’t really matter.
He’s likely an asset that’s never going to help the rangers on ice himself. Imo, the sooner he’s gone, the better.
He did himself and NYR a favor by playing well in the KHL to bump up his value a bit. that’s why it was the right thing for Drury to let him play there, like they did with Andersson.
Whatever we are getting back it’s likely going to be at the TDL. I can’t see NYR management going into next season letting him play another year in the KHL, if he has a poor showing, his value will tank to an all time low, and whoever is interested in trading for him will want him in their camp ASAP.
I’d bet 2-3 teams take a serious run at him at the TDL. OTT still makes a ton of sense imo. I’d love to get Greig for our future bottom 6 or Connor brown for the playoff run

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Adding someone like Ryan McDonagh could really shore up the left side defense. Slots everyone down one.

McD - Fox
Lindgren -Trouba
Miller - Schneider

Thoughts?

Can we bring back Grabner and Nash too?

 

[effen]

"Kravtsov, in fact, fits a more general mold of what the Canucks are primarily targeting in the weeks and months leading up to the NHL trade deadline — namely, young, skilled players with significant potential that fall within a 20-25-year-old age range."

And that's exactly what the Rangers should be targeting as well.

That's what literally every team targets.

 

[bhamill]

I keep reading here that JT is “Drury’s man” but I’ve seen no evidence, just fan and click bait media speculation. Seriously, has Drury ever really given any indication of this? I think we’ve completely constructed this pretty much out of thin air and writers needing something to write about.

 

[rangers1314]

I wouldn't mind just bringing in 2 middle 6 forwards with versatility and rolling the dice.

Jarnkrok and Namestakov 2.0.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I keep reading here that JT is “Drury’s man” but I’ve seen no evidence, just fan and click bait media speculation. Seriously, has Drury ever really given any indication of this? I think we’ve completely constructed this pretty much out of thin air and writers needing something to write about.

everything is just noise until it happens or it doesn’t.

 

[McRanger92]

I wouldn't mind just bringing in 2 middle 6 forwards with versatility and rolling the dice.

Jarnkrok and Namestakov 2.0.

They need at least one guy who can make an impact in the top 6. My preference is Reilly Smith. Then Laf bumps down to 3LW with Goodrow, who he’s shown chemistry with, and another outside addition like Copp/Lehkonen

 

[mas0764]

I was listening to a podcast. Jeff Marek? 32 Thoughts? He does so many podcasts. You lose track. Hoglander has struggled this season compared to last season. Maybe the new coach doesn't like him. Different management team. Now would be the time to acquire Hoglander out of VAN.

That’s the right idea. Young kid with some top 6 upside.

 

[mas0764]

I’m torn on whether I am happy teams are interested in Kravstov or worried that the Canucks who just hired a bunch of smart people are very interested in Kravstov

You should be more worried about what it says regarding the intelligence of our people.

 

[Boris Zubov]

There was some follow up about Kravstov not necessarily being linked to Miller, but no doubt his name was thrown about there and there was evidently some reception

Wonder what something around a Kravstov/Hoglander swap would look like

Hoglander would satisfy Drury's desire to acquire a similar young player/top prospect for Kravtsov. Vancouver wasn't mentioned in October when pajama boy went AWOL. The Canucks have a new president of hockey operations and GM now. Vitaly will like VAN. Alaska is near British Columbia. According to Ron Duguay's new girlfriend. you can see Russia from Alaska. Maybe Vitali can live in Russia and commute to VAN for games and practices.

Rumor is @EdJovanovski is already adding an addition on to his house for Vitaly.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

I think the time is quickly approaching where the Rangers need to flip one of their highly regarded D prospects for a center prospect. Maybe Mavrik Bourque from Dallas? 25 points in 12 games for Shawinigan. Got a cup of coffee in the AHL last year and collected 5 points in 6 games. Only 20 years old. Maybe Lundkvist or Robertson for Bourque?

 

[Ratelleitlikeitis]

Rumor is @EdJovanovski is already adding an addition on to his house for Vitaly.

But he hates the Canucks...no?

 

[mas0764]

They need at least one guy who can make an impact in the top 6. My preference is Reilly Smith. Then Laf bumps down to 3LW with Goodrow, who he’s shown chemistry with, and another outside addition like Copp/Lehkonen

Would really prefer Laf and Kakko stay in the top 6.

 

[rangers1314]

Laf - Zib - CK
Panarin - Strome - KK
Namestakov - Jarnkrok - Chytil
Rooney - Goodrow - Reaves

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Frank seems to pick fights with everybody.

Dude's a clown. Fighting with another reporter for criticizing a coach who just got fired, what is he your boyfriend?

 

[Anthony5967]

JT Miller hasn't been on the Rangers in 4 years. It's crazy how many people think he's just going to revert to the 24 year old version after averaging a PPG over the last 3 seasons. The player he is now is of course a difference maker. Here are the guys ahead of him in points over the last 3 seasons: McDavid, Draisaitl, Marchand, Bread, Huberdeau, MacKinnon, Matthews, Kane, Pastrnak, Mika, Marner, Connor, Aho, Ovechkin, and Scheifele.

They don't have even a remote idea of the type of player he is now, no idea, and I'd respect that as opposed to just using the same old nonsense narrative about the 24-year-old version. So ridiculous.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Trading for McD too now? lol

We should have never rebuilt, kept McD and JT, sign Panarin and go.

 

[Anthony5967]

I'm really worried about Drury heading into this TDL. He's somewhat lucked himself into a playoff spot. The players that were here last year are better or on par with last season. The additions he made are fine but he's overpaid on each one. Goodrow deal is about 3 years too long. Nemeth hasn't worked out but even if he did he was signed for an extra year or 2. Esp with Jones/Robertson in the pipeline. The Buch deal is just bad, esp if he really did have better deals on the table. I'm worried he's going to give up a ton for 1 playoff run, and then next season we're one Shesty injury from being in the Bedard sweepstakes (and hopefully he didn't trade that first for a Miller type)

First of all, I do not believe this is a team that lucked themselves into a playoff spot. The one deal I have an issue with is Nemeth. It made no sense to go three years. Were they honestly competing with another team for his services? If people are still complaining about the Goodrow or Reaves deals, then it's something for them to just b**** about. Those guys are money, clutch, playoff guys you need if you have aspirations to go deep and one day win. Three years too long? He's 28, not 30-31. The Buch deal is terrible because Blais got hurt 12 games in or whatever, and now it looks like they traded him for a second and nothing else. But what if Drury keeps Buch? Then what? You kick the can down the road on a guy you have zero intentions of trading if he's having this type of year OR re-signing. If you re-sign him, where are you affording a 2C? Again, these are questions people don't bother to ask themselves. Blais is literally a perfect puzzle piece to how this team wants to make-up the bottom six. Skill and intensity, with heavy-hitting, playoff hockey. Nobody was giving you an arm and a leg for Buchnevich when the entire hockey world knew the Rangers weren't keen on keeping him starting with Davidson and Gorton. Kakko and Laf, one of them, was never going to see the top-six if you re-sign Buch. Let's hope Gallant has the common sense to roll a 13-93-20; 10-16-24 top-six after break.

 

[mas0764]

Trading for McD too now? lol

We should have never rebuilt, kept McD and JT, sign Panarin and go.

Well that is the way we seem to be trending.

Swap in Shesterkin (who we already had) for Lundqvist, sign Panarin, have Fox force his way here, and get lucky with winning two lotteries.

Everything else, back to aging vets and stars. Trade our four best remaining young, buildable assets for a 29 year old with 18 months on his contract.

Rebuild was a sham.

Gorton and JD had their flaws but if things keep going the way they are going, the day they were fired will be the worst day in Rangers history. Thanks, Tom Wilson, for making Dolan step in.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Nils, VK, 2nd and a conditional pick.

It's a solid package yet not the absurdity that Canucks fans are seeking.

 

[mas0764]

Nils, VK, 2nd and a conditional pick.

It's a solid package yet not the absurdity that Canucks fans are seeking.

Nope.

 

[CupSeeker]

I think they got a bit of a love affair going on with Hoglander and usually that means that a player is off the table unless there is a big over payment.

I like Podkolzin. But does he fit in on our depth chart?

Podkolzin is a bust; there i said it.

 

[surlysailor]

First of all, I do not believe this is a team that lucked themselves into a playoff spot. The one deal I have an issue with is Nemeth. It made no sense to go three years. Were they honestly competing with another team for his services? If people are still complaining about the Goodrow or Reaves deals, then it's something for them to just b**** about. Those guys are money, clutch, playoff guys you need if you have aspirations to go deep and one day win. Three years too long? He's 28, not 30-31. The Buch deal is terrible because Blais got hurt 12 games in or whatever, and now it looks like they traded him for a second and nothing else. But what if Drury keeps Buch? Then what? You kick the can down the road on a guy you have zero intentions of trading if he's having this type of year OR re-signing. If you re-sign him, where are you affording a 2C? Again, these are questions people don't bother to ask themselves. Blais is literally a perfect puzzle piece to how this team wants to make-up the bottom six. Skill and intensity, with heavy-hitting, playoff hockey. Nobody was giving you an arm and a leg for Buchnevich when the entire hockey world knew the Rangers weren't keen on keeping him starting with Davidson and Gorton. Kakko and Laf, one of them, was never going to see the top-six if you re-sign Buch. Let's hope Gallant has the common sense to roll a 13-93-20; 10-16-24 top-six after break.

No the Buch deal is horrible because the team is the second to worst team 5v5. The teams PP has carried them this season w/Shesty. And the point of the post is about how Drury (imo) has overpaid for every move he's done. The Buch deal is not bad because of Blais or the injury. It's because he gave up a player who had chemistry w/CK & Z, is almost a ppg player this season and last for a player who has topped off at 15pts in 36 games and is only 1 year younger . The concern is that Drury will overpay at the deadline for whomever he's targeting. Also the issue at 2c, why go out and move Buch for another winger, trading for a Reeves, signing Hunt, Goodrow (all wingers), etc... Why not address the C position in that deal esp when they have no top tier C prospects in the system, and they still not even be able to sign Strome or another 2c after this season.

All that being said, moving Buch was the right idea, I just think the execution/move was bad. I think if he could've he should tried adding Blais but in a different deal and moving Buch to LA for a C prospect if that was truly on the table.