Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVI - It’s Miller Time…K-A

[Draft Guru]

Frank seems to pick fights with everybody.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

When we traded a 30 year old Mats Zuccarello to Dallas for a 2nd and a 3rd round pick.The head coach of the Stars Jim Montgomery was trilled because Zuc never took a shift off. Montgomery told reporters it was the best thing to happen to his team because Zuccarello’s work ethic became infectious.
If we do end up bringing a player in at the deadline I hope it is a veteran on an expiring contract who brings to the Rangers what Mats brought to the Stars.
I also hope we don’t pay more then a 2nd and a fourth for that player.

 

[Guyute]

Frank seems to pick fights with everybody.

Can’t take the Philly outta Frank

 

[Boris Zubov]

When we traded a 30 year old Mats Zuccarello to Dallas for a 2nd and a 3rd round pick.The head coach of the Stars Jim Montgomery was trilled because Zuc never took a shift off. Montgomery told reporters it was the best thing to happen to his team because Zuccarello’s work ethic became infectious.
If we do end up bringing a player in at the deadline I hope it is a veteran on an expiring contract who brings to the Rangers what Mats brought to the Stars.
I also hope we don’t pay more then a 2nd and a fourth for that player.

Reilly Smith is that type of player, ironically. 2nd & a 4th sounds right to me, although I think Vegas may try to hold out for a 1st.

 

[bbny]

Pavelski for Kakko proposal on the mains all day and it's somehow not locked yet. Good stuff.

 

[jay from jersey]

Twitter fight







I like EJ better than Frank.

hah EJ just sent frank running home like a little school girl with no response....

 

[jay from jersey]

JT Miller hasn't been on the Rangers in 4 years. It's crazy how many people think he's just going to revert to the 24 year old version after averaging a PPG over the last 3 seasons. The player he is now is of course a difference maker. Here are the guys ahead of him in points over the last 3 seasons: McDavid, Draisaitl, Marchand, Bread, Huberdeau, MacKinnon, Matthews, Kane, Pastrnak, Mika, Marner, Connor, Aho, Ovechkin, and Scheifele.

Miller has skills no doubt. He had skills when he was here, and they’ve gotten better over the last 4 years.
But Miller has always been moody. I’m more worried about the nY nightlife/ off ice activities or how he reacts if he’s not getting the time on PP or otherwise he’s become accustomed to here.
Will he sulk? Will he not care? Will he try harder? Tbh, I really don’t know....
Is it worth the gamble ??? Could be.... LaF/Kakko/Schneider obviously won’t be involved... I really don’t care about kravtsov. His value is much lower then many on here think and odds are he’s a depreciating asset that’s never going to help this team on the ice..
Trading Lundkvist def hurts, while blocked, he’s going to be a solid D in the future and if we move him I’d rather it be for another cost controlled young player....
Copp for a late 1st just makes so much more sense. He’s also having a career year and would be deployed in every situation Gallant would deploy miller at a 1/3 of the cost.
Even if Copp is 80% the player miller is, NYR comes out ahead imo.

 

[Lgrsean]

Miller has skills no doubt. He had skills when he was here, and they’ve gotten better over the last 4 years.
But Miller has always been moody. I’m more worried about the nY nightlife/ off ice activities or how he reacts if he’s not getting the time on PP or otherwise he’s become accustomed to here.
Will he sulk? Will he not care? Will he try harder? Tbh, I really don’t know....
Is it worth the gamble ??? Could be.... LaF/Kakko/Schneider obviously won’t be involved... I really don’t care about kravtsov. His value is much lower then many on here think and odds are he’s a depreciating asset that’s never going to help this team on the ice..
Trading Lundkvist def hurts, while blocked, he’s going to be a solid D in the future and if we move him I’d rather it be for another cost controlled young player....
Copp for a late 1st just makes so much more sense. He’s also having a career year and would be deployed in every situation Gallant would deploy miller at a 1/3 of the cost.
Even if Copp is 80% the player miller is, NYR comes out ahead imo.

That’s a reasonable take. The takes I disagree with are the ones claiming we could get a top 6 C on an ELC with a similar package to what Miller will cost at 50% or that we couldn’t make it work to sign Strome around $6m/yr while letting miller play out his contract @ 50%, although it would obviously be really tight.
Copp is a UFA after this year, I believe, so the Rangers would be signing him at market value over strome. If that’s the case, why trade for him? Maybe signing copp over strome gives you the wiggle room to keep Miller at 50% and sign some better depth players than you could afford with Stromes higher salary.

 

[Alluckks]

Twitter fight







I like EJ better than Frank.

Guess we figured out who one of Seravalli's garbage sources was for his over the top peddling

 

[Alluckks]

Pavelski for Kakko proposal on the mains all day and it's somehow not locked yet. Good stuff.

I reported it for trolling and citing that children shouldn't be allowed to post on here without supervision

... it was rejected

 

[Alluckks]

There was some follow up about Kravstov not necessarily being linked to Miller, but no doubt his name was thrown about there and there was evidently some reception

Wonder what something around a Kravstov/Hoglander swap would look like

 

[Ola]

Does Montreal have to pay compensation to **checks notes** Mid Fairfield Rangers U13 AAA?

A 2nd round pick would be a real difference maker at that level (or most 2nd round picks at least).

 

[Alluckks]

Kravstov + Gauthier for Hoglander
Chytil for Lehkonen

Kreider Zib Laf
Panarin Strome Lehkonen
Hoglander Goodrow Kakko

If the Rangers wanted to get spicy then throw in 2nd + 2nd for Pavelski and move Goodrow to 4th line

 

[Tob]

when I spend too much time reading these boards lately I think to myself how nice it would be if I went into a coma and woke up on trade deadline day.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Hoglander for Kravtsov would be such a steal. It would be a dream for that to occur

 

[jay from jersey]

Seems like every few weeks we get our hopes up that Reilly Smith will shake loose and then another Vegas player goes on LTIR. Such a tease

they aren’t going to give up smith. I’m sure they had contingency plans set up for an event like this.
Dumping one of their best playoff performers right before the playoffs start really make sense to anyone???
Just to get cap compliment????
It’s a ridiculous assumption.
I’m sure if they can’t move their dead weight IE dandonov+ Jannmark+. ...
Then 1 or 2 guys that have been playing thru injuries will magically wind up on IR to make them cap compliant.
The rangers getting smith for a 2nd/3rd + another low tier asset is an absolute pipe dream.

I’m still pretty pissed Miller looks like he’s gonna cost Lundkvist+ kravtsov + late first..
But it seems like he’s the guy Drury really wants.
I’m really hoping that trade hits a snag and we go in a different direction.. id be sick if we give up Robertson.
There aren’t many teams looking to deal 6’4 200 plus pound smooth skating D men that can move the puck..
His potential and years of cheap control make him a viable candidate for the rangers to potentially move 1 of Miller/Lindgren in a year or 2s time when they’re really going to need the cap and KAM and Lindgren are both due for raises.

 

[Ola]

Hoglander for Kravtsov would be such a steal. It would be a dream for that to occur

I think they got a bit of a love affair going on with Hoglander and usually that means that a player is off the table unless there is a big over payment.

I like Podkolzin. But does he fit in on our depth chart?

 

[RangerBoy]

Hoglander for Kravtsov would be such a steal. It would be a dream for that to occur

I was listening to a podcast. Jeff Marek? 32 Thoughts? He does so many podcasts. You lose track. Hoglander has struggled this season compared to last season. Maybe the new coach doesn't like him. Different management team. Now would be the time to acquire Hoglander out of VAN.

 

[RangerBoy]

There was some follow up about Kravstov not necessarily being linked to Miller, but no doubt his name was thrown about there and there was evidently some reception

Wonder what something around a Kravstov/Hoglander swap would look like

Hoglander would satisfy Drury's desire to acquire a similar young player/top prospect for Kravtsov. Vancouver wasn't mentioned in October when pajama boy went AWOL. The Canucks have a new president of hockey operations and GM now. Vitaly will like VAN. Alaska is near British Columbia. According to Ron Duguay's new girlfriend. you can see Russia from Alaska. Maybe Vitali can live in Russia and commute to VAN for games and practices.

 

[haohmaru]

I clipped and edited it for future use. Feel free to copy and paste when you need it.

"With due respect, don’t confuse being an excellent poster with knowing anything significant about the game on the ice."

You're welcome.

 

[Idlerlee]

When we traded a 30 year old Mats Zuccarello to Dallas for a 2nd and a 3rd round pick.The head coach of the Stars Jim Montgomery was trilled because Zuc never took a shift off. Montgomery told reporters it was the best thing to happen to his team because Zuccarello’s work ethic became infectious.
If we do end up bringing a player in at the deadline I hope it is a veteran on an expiring contract who brings to the Rangers what Mats brought to the Stars.
I also hope we don’t pay more then a 2nd and a fourth for that player.

Should bring back Mats

 

[RangerBoy]

The Athletic

An intriguing name that we keep hearing linked to the Canucks as a player they regard highly is New York Rangers prospect Vitali Kravtsov.

Kravtsov, 22, was a top-10 pick of the Rangers in 2018. Although the skilled 6-foot-3 power winger still had a year remaining on his three-year entry-level contract, he spent this season in the KHL playing for Traktor Chelyabinsk where he had six goals and 13 points in 19 games prior to the cancellation of what remained of the KHL regular season.

Now there’s no shortage of rumours when it comes to the Canucks and various Rangers prospects, particularly in the wake of the ongoing speculation regarding New York’s high interest level in Canucks leading scorer J.T. Miller.

Our sources were split as to whether Kravtsov had ever been part of any latent trade discussion between the Rangers and the Canucks, however. What is clearer is that Kravtsov is a player of interest for the Canucks and that interest may not necessarily be tethered to any of the flashy star-level players popping up in Canucks-centric trade rumours as we approach the NHL’s silly season.

Kravtsov, in fact, fits a more general mold of what the Canucks are primarily targeting in the weeks and months leading up to the NHL trade deadline — namely, young, skilled players with significant potential that fall within a 20-25-year-old age range.

 

[haohmaru]

"Kravtsov, in fact, fits a more general mold of what the Canucks are primarily targeting in the weeks and months leading up to the NHL trade deadline — namely, young, skilled players with significant potential that fall within a 20-25-year-old age range."

And that's exactly what the Rangers should be targeting as well.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’m torn on whether I am happy teams are interested in Kravstov or worried that the Canucks who just hired a bunch of smart people are very interested in Kravstov

 

[wafflepadsave]

Why did you censor the i?

Maybe he’s hates vowels.