Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXV: Calm Before the Storm

[GoAwayPanarin]

A 60+ point puck moving RD? What are your expectations, Brent Burns?

60+ point D who has been tasked with carrying around a Sub NHL level player.

 

[E-Train]

Buch & Kreider are not happening. That is way too much production for a team that wants to contend next year to trade away.

Really depends on the returns for Skjei & Buch. Kreider is going IMO

 

[SnowFort]

Obvious thing is obvious, but still.

 

[Leetch3]

I really want Robertson from TO to link up with his brother. Both killing it in the OHL right now.


Edit: they are not brothers but still. Nick Robertson should be at the top of our list for Kreider if TO is a buyer.

we could get both and then put sam on an endless loop of explaining that the 2 are brothers but matt isn't related to either brother.

 

[rangers1314]

This STINKS. Someone do something.

 

[NYR Viper]

Obvious thing is obvious, but still.

Please be accurate...

 

[JT Kreider]

ADA is better than Trouba and Fox. He is easily a better PP QB than both of them. It wasn't a suprise when he was out last week that our PP looked like shit.

I have no interest in trading Fox, but I would 100% move Trouba before moving ADA. I just think it's absolutely crazy to move this kid, when we have waited 20 years for an offensive dynamo like him. He is having one of the best seasons ever for a Rangers RD. Why are we trying to pretend like that's not happening?

The talent has always been there. It's always been about consistency and getting his crazy head on straight. Now that we invested the time to do that, and he truly seems to have grown and become nearly what we want him to be, we're going to sell that?

ADA is one of the most valuable pieces on this team concerning the rebuild. Trading him would be a far bigger hit to this team than trading Kreider.

100 percent. DeAngelo is here to stay, he is our 4th best player behind Panman, Zib and Igor

 

[NYSPORTS]

Stay tuned, Brooks has already formulated his list of deals which Gordon didn’t close according to his “sources”

 

[Tawnos]

I'm pretty sure the "rebuild is over!" thing is a joke paired with the fat that the Rangers hve been playing much better lately

Maybe, but it’s exactly the kind of thing a guy like Tierney would actually say.

 

[Crease]

At some point the market is going to blink and go to plan B instead of Kreider.

 

[Thirty One]

 

[Lion Hound]

NHL Network is a showing an AHL game. Like, why not have a round table with all these “insiders” on the eve of the deadline?

 

[Cag29]

Call me crazy, but I’d want more for ADA than Byram. Avs are hoping Byram develops into ADA.

Bryan and Newhook for Ada ? Maybe a 2nd

 

[JT Kreider]

This STINKS. Someone do something.

I mean just because Kreider doesn't have a deal in place by tomorrow doesn't mean if we keep him we will for sure lose him in free agency too.

Pietrangelo is pending UFA too and we dont hear a word out of STL.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Bryan and Newhook for Ada ? Maybe a 2nd

Byram AND Newhook? That would be...absolutely phenomenal.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

100 percent. DeAngelo is here to stay, he is our 4th best player behind Panman, Zib and Igor

I'd still have Kakko above him, but pretty much.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I prefer the NardDog version.

 

[GAGLine]

Bryan and Newhook for Ada ? Maybe a 2nd

They aren't trading their 2 best prospects for a player they don't need.

 

[haohmaru]

Did you mean: Everything indicates that if Chris Kreider does not have a new agreement, he will be traded. The @NYRangers playoff race will not change the data. He signs he stays. It does not sign, it will be exchanged. #tvasports


Profound

I said the same thing here hours ago. Maybe I should have tweeted it?

 

[JT Kreider]

I'd still have Kakko above him, but pretty much.

DeAngelo is so much better than Kakko right now, I didnt mean in terms of value

 

[Tawnos]

NHL Network is a showing an AHL game. Like, why not have a round table with all these “insiders” on the eve of the deadline?

I’m sure the AHL game is more entertaining than that would be.

 

[JimmyG89]

Many of the complaints about analytics have at least been attempted to be addressed and I think they do a lot better of a job than they did even just a couple of years ago. They’re still viewed too monolithically by “proponents” of them, but that’s a different problem and one I don’t think is really affecting teams.

That being said, declaring the rebuild over would seem to bely the whole thing about sample sizes. They’ve been improving and things look bright, but the rebuild is NOT over yet.

To the point you’re making in your commentary there, I actually agree that the impact of trading Kreider or Fast isn’t as big as people want to proclaim. It’s perfectly possible to become a contender without them.

Yes, the analytics have gotten increasingly better over the years. Where shots come from and their overall value being taken in helps a lot instead of just counting shots somewhat equally.

Also, I'm sure those comments are tongue in cheek when it comes to the rebuild being over, but the strides taken the last two months are starting to turn this team from rebuilding to playoff contender much faster than originally expected. Of course, Panarin being a top 5 player this season and Zibanejad jumping from a 1C to being a damn near elite player help, but the secondary and tertiary pieces on the team making stride is a huge part of the build being where it is.

 

[ecemleafs]

NHL Network is a showing an AHL game. Like, why not have a round table with all these “insiders” on the eve of the deadline?

cuz they dont know anything this year lol

 

[DutchShamrock]

Look, Gorton isn't trying to be cute. He is really just willing to re-sign Kreider on his terms. If that isn't happening, he is dealt. It's not the return value vs the contract terms, or if he can trade and sign him in July, or posturing to drive up value.

Gorton has always been painfully methodical and will drag this to the end. The next 24 hours belong to Kreider, maybe Fast gets wedged in at some point. It's so remote that an RFA is dealt with here. Maybe, maybe a slight chance Lundqvist finds a spot. It's just Gorton's M.O. to operate this way.

And other than 3 examples not named Keith Tkachuk, GMs don't deal away guys that they plan on re-signing. It's too risky. If Kreider is priced out of broadway, that door us shut.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Did the deadline get moved and no-one was told?