Speculation: Roster building thread XXIII: Heading into doldrum days and All Star break

[duhmetreE]

He’s a 23-year-old on pace for 71 points

yawn. Strome is having a better year

 

[NYRangers0723]

He’s a 23-year-old on pace for 71 points

never said he didn’t have talent but he will cost a shitload in assets and salary. He has already held out before. It reminds me of Trouba. Reminds me of fans For years fans were salivating for Trouba and now that contract looks awful. Just not a big fan of overpaying for Nylander

 

[haveandare]

Also I don’t care how “soft” Nylander is. Talent comes first. Worry about what sandpaper grit the roster is later. This team is in no position to be turning their noses up at first-line players.

I don't really think not wanting to trade a handful of assets the team traded key players for is the same as "turning their noses up" to a player. Would I like Nylander? Sure. Would I even think about trading ADA+Kravstov+ for him? Absolutely not.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Other teams exist besides Toronto. Krieder + Georgiev + Lias to Colorado gets us what?

 

[NYRangers0723]

I don't really think not wanting to trade a handful of assets the team traded key players for is the same as "turning their noses up" to a player. Would I like Nylander? Sure. Would I even think about trading ADA+Kravstov+ for him? Absolutely not.

Absolutely. Kid has talent but I’m not giving up a Kong’s ransom, I don’t think he is worth it. He is playing with a lot of offensive firepower around him too

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

The Rangers have really liked Nylander for a while, and there's interest from Toronto in Georgiev, Skjei and Kravtsov.

The Rangers would prefer 2 of the 3, belief is Toronto asks for more. If the Rangers include all 3, they want more. Also a decent amount of concern about losing Skjei at this point in time, and not having another option at the ready.

The belief is that the Rangers could then potentially look to make other moves to replace the Skjei, but that's not a given that they can find a guy they like. The alternative has been to see if an upgrade from Skjei hits the market, and include him as part of that package.

That's been something I've heard mentioned for a while now, but there's a lot of uncertainty there on whether they want to rob Peter to pay Paul.

That's it. From now on, we must refer to Brady as "the Skjei."

 

[aufheben]

I don't really think not wanting to trade a handful of assets the team traded key players for is the same as "turning their noses up" to a player. Would I like Nylander? Sure. Would I even think about trading ADA+Kravstov+ for him? Absolutely not.

I’ve seen people say they’re not interested in him because he’s soft. Where did DeAngelo come from? I thought we’re talking about a combination of Skjei/Georgiev/Kravtsov.

 

[haveandare]

I’ve seen people say they’re not interested in him because he’s soft. Where did DeAngelo come from? I thought we’re talking about a combination of Skjei/Georgiev/Kravtsov.

Last page people were talking about ADA included I thought. My mistake if not.

Point being, there's a difference between not wanting a player and not wanting to give up what it will cost for that player.

Plus, even if people are concerned primarily because he's soft, the fact is this team has the assets to trade for maybe one forward of or around his quality, and there are others aside from him out there. Once they use those assets for him, they don't have those assets to use for someone else. It's not an issue of going for talent first, it's an issue of going for talent only because there aren't the assets to go for another guy of his caliber after. If this team wants to be a bigger, rougher team, using those assets on Nylander isn't a great idea.

 

[aufheben]

I don’t know, if you can get a first-line forward and the best player you lose is Brady Skjei, that’s an easy decision for me.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Why are you people including Skjei, Georgiev, Kravtsov and ADa in trades together? The Leafs aren't getting those guys for Kapanen and Andersen's jock. I mean, come on guys.

Read the posts before analyzing them.

It was two trades. One for Nylander, and a second trade moving ADA for a LHD. Not Kapanen or Andersen. Not sure why you mentioned them.

I’m not advocating the second move either. It was more a question of what assets do we have for Skjei’s replacement if a fairytale trade of Skjei/Geo/Kravstov for Nylander did happen.

 

[rangersfansince08]

I don’t know, if you can get a first-line forward and the best player you lose is Brady Skjei, that’s an easy decision for me.

I think the biggest piece would be Kravstov.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Other teams exist besides Toronto. Krieder + Georgiev + Lias to Colorado gets us what?

with Sakic at the helm? Likely won’t part with anybody

 

[FIRE DRURY]

the point was if we're going to move that many assets, it should be for a player like Matthews not Nylander.

You’re not getting the NHL’s second leading scorer for a combination of lesser assets. Even Nylander for a package of Skjei/Geo/Kravstov is very unrealistic, imo.

 

[LokiDog]

Other teams exist besides Toronto. Krieder + Georgiev + Lias to Colorado gets us what?

I’d like Compher + Zadorov + 2nd that becomes a 1sr if they win the Cup or re-sign Kreids. Or Newhook and a pick.

 

[Anthony5967]

Read the posts before analyzing them.

It was two trades. One for Nylander, and a second trade moving ADA for a LHD. Not Kapanen or Andersen. Not sure why you mentioned them.

I’m not advocating the second move either. It was more a question of what assets do we have for Skjei’s replacement if a fairytale trade of Skjei/Geo/Kravstov for Nylander did happen.

You're overrating Nylander. I'm not trading those three for Nylander, and I'm not moving DeAngelo for a LHD that you're hoping will be Tony.

 

[ETTER DE]

Reading the Leafs board over the last year you get the impression that Kapanen can skate and make a couple of hits and thats about it. Low hockey IQ, cant even PK.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

In: Nylander + Top-4 LHD
Out: Geo, Skjei, Kravstov, ADA

Lmao!

 

[FIRE DRURY]

never said he didn’t have talent but he will cost a ****load in assets and salary. He has already held out before. It reminds me of Trouba. Reminds me of fans For years fans were salivating for Trouba and now that contract looks awful. Just not a big fan of overpaying for Nylander

Absolutely. Kid has talent but I’m not giving up a Kong’s ransom, I don’t think he is worth it. He is playing with a lot of offensive firepower around him too

Well, he’d likely be playing with Panarin, Zbad, or Chytil here in NY for a long time so if he needs talent to play up to his potential, he’ll have that opportunity here.

 

[NYRangers0723]

Well, he’d likely be playing with Panarin, Zbad, or Chytil here in NY for a long time so if he needs talent to play up to his potential, he’ll have that opportunity here

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ok...

 

[FIRE DRURY]

You're overrating Nylander. I'm not trading those three for Nylander, and I'm not moving DeAngelo for a LHD that you're hoping will be Tony.

Another person who struggles with reading comprehension.

I already acknowledged I wouldn’t move ADA for a LHD. Pay attention.

I’m not advocating the second move either. It was more a question of what assets do we have for Skjei’s replacement.

 

[Anthony5967]

Another person who struggles with reading comprehension.

I already acknowledged I wouldn’t move ADA for a LHD. Pay attention.

ok

 

[RangersFan1994]

I’d like Compher + Zadorov + 2nd that becomes a 1sr if they win the Cup or re-sign Kreids. Or Newhook and a pick.

id like Compher and still young has upside. Bowers would be a good fit and Rangers do well with former college players, 1st year pro

 

[charliemurphy]

If Kapanen is the target I would hope the trade would include a pick or prospect. The Rangers taking back that salary would help Toronto... maybe add someone to Georgiev like Fast to get Bracco, Engvall or Robertson included somehow.

 

[bobbop]

I seriously doubt Colorado is in the goaltender market.

And I don’t know how Toronto is Planning to do their salary cap next year so that makes it tough to figure where they are headed but Nylander would seem to be the one guy they could move and get some significant cap room.

 

[Tawnos]

I think the biggest piece would be Kravstov.

It wouldn't. This is going to read as if I'm down on him, but I'm really not. The Rangers would be lucky if Kravtsov turned into a player as good as Nylander already is.

Kravtsov's absolute upper ceiling is higher than where Nylander is right now, but his more realistic ceiling is around the same. So you're talking about trading a player who might end up as good in a deal for someone who doesn't come with the risk of it not happening.

That being said, I'm not trading 3 players for Nylander.