Still Like the trade like the player but we can’t offer a bottom 6 guy 4 million plus even if he’s a terrific pk guy. If he’s asking 3.75 or above just say bye or leave him unprotected
Speculation: Roster Building Thread XII
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rangers1314
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2.75-3.25 would be fair in this cap world. I mean if we gave him 3.5 for 4 years I wouldn’t flip tables over it
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bleedblue94
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There as a small contingent of people that kept saying he was going to at least get the tanev deal and others kept dreaming that one of the top two most desired players of his type (Goodrow and Coleman) in a league that lacks this kind of player, and a player that cost a team a 1st rounder in a trade now long ago was going to sign a ufa contract for under 3mil. It's not going to happen. He is getting PAID whether it's here or elsewhere. We need this type of player and I'm okay paying for it.
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rangers1314
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i don’t think so. Maybe something minor so he doesn’t end up in some no win place like Buffalo, Arizona or NJ but probably not even that.
UAGoalieGuy
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The difference is the league is in a totally different place then when that trade went down.
Also his play could have been a product of his environment. I dont recall him playing this good in San Jose?
The cap isn't going anywhere for the next 4 or 5 years. Most players salaries will be depressed. Some will take term over dollars (role playing older players) while several younger players will be the reverse.
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Why not, if they are going to go anywhere near 4M for 5 or 6 years, the contract itself will become a no trade anyway, so it does not really matter if he gets it or not.
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If it’s a 6 year deal, I fully expect 3/4 years of a 15 or 10 team no move list.
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You can keep saying the cap isn't going anywhere but players in demand are going to get paid, that doesn't just mean elite players, it means the players that are in demand. These two guys are extremely in demand, like literally every team in the league would want these guys right now. It's open market, they're going to get paid. You can't argue against it. I keep seeing the same reasons why he shouldn't expect to get paid, but he's going to get paid because literally 10 teams have been linked as being super interested in him. If there's a demand for a ufa player than they're going to get paid.
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Goodrows versatility and ability to win faceoffs is very valuable for our bottom 6. He also led the Bolts in PK time. In the grand scheme of things, if he signs for 2.9M or 3.7M, it’s not really going to hinder Drury.
Suzuki would have been the Coyotes pick at 7 if they haven’t traded it to the Rangers.
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I'm all about not panicking on what the deal might be, but I keep thinking about Ward and Cullen right after Carolina won. Similar phases. Whatever, I'm prepared for a higher number. Why would Goodrow take a team friendly deal before free agency opens?
Please, explain to me how this is worth $4M.
I understand and we don't know what the final numbers will truly be but numbers on paper don't show the intangibles he brings. Everyone knew what we needed and what we were going for this offseason and teams or FA's will do there best to squeeze every last dime from NY.
That said those intangibles teaching these kids what it takes to win important games. Showing them you have to get your nose dirty not every shift can be a ballet. It's almost priceless. Obviously I believe there should be a limit but if we are within 500k like 3.5 or 3.75 looks a lot better than 4 million I'm ok with that.
Really wish we kept Fast.
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I like Goodrow a lot but $4M+ is crazy talk. Hope that is coming from his agent.
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it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
It's a good thing they gave those big contracts to Kreider and Trouba, and that was the end of it.
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I mean with hindsight, sure. I remember the Suzuki stuff too, but everyone thought 7 was too high for him. And he still got traded. Necas I liked but again the consensus was 7 was too early.
Thats the point though. When you are projecting out a draft you put the players in tiers. The top tiers in the draft are 9 players and there is a drop. I don’t think there is much of a difference between the 10th best guy and the 15th best guy (at this point in time).
The Lias/Suzuki/Necas thing happened because there wasn’t a consensus guy at 7 so the Rangers picked the wrong reach. I wouldn’t want the Rangers to put themselves in a situation again where they aren’t in an optimal position
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And that’s fair too. But again. I’m not trading up just to trade up either. Especially if it’s going to be expensive
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Big with speed...people think he's got magical scoring power locked within him that will only show up if he's played in the top 6. Said it last year that he needs to find a role or he'll become an AHL lifer. No top 9 spots for him, can't play a shut down role, doesn't wanna use his body....i dunno what to tell people he is what he is but you'd swear he was Martin St.Louis just trying to get a break in the nhl. Lol
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