Speculation: Roster Building Thread VII (2019/2020)

[RangersFan1994]

I would imagine David Quinn would love to have Jordan Greenway and Koivu would be great for Kakko. Koivu would be a great stopgap at 2C if the Rangers are in the playoff hunt and still lack a true 2C.

Koivu, Greenway and + for?? Kreider? would he resign in Minnesota?

 

[SA16]

He offers absolutely nothing offensively except for being decent on the boards, which is fine for a fourth liner, but as a third-liner, you should be able to produce on offense.

He has 6 points his last 13 games all played as a 4th line forward.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Koivu, Greenway and + for?? Kreider? would he resign in Minnesota?

Very meh. Very, very meh. I'm expecting a disappointing return for Kreider, but not that disappointing. Plus, I don't know why the Wild would trade for Kreider since they want to tear it all down. Seems like Guerin is willing to do a rebuild of sorts.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Koivu, Greenway and + for?? Kreider? would he resign in Minnesota?

Yikes, brutal.

And what on earth are we doing with a washed up 36 year old center?

I want a 1st for Kreider, no if and or buts. Then they can add.

But then again Kreider isn't helping us at all by not showing up to the season so far.

 

[Ola]

On Lias: Look, we have barely played any hockey. And our 4th has especially not seen the ice a lot. Looking at Lias ice time, he is PKing a lot. Obviously got DQs trust there on the top PK unit.

I don’t quite get what others have done to win DQs trust, especially Howden just looks like he got little to contribute with at center.

But at the same time, of what you can do from a 4th line to get noticed and moved up, Lias is certainly not hitting any kind of roof. It’s not impossible to score on a 4th line.

I am not ready to torch DQ for not giving Lias more time yet. Let’s get a few more games into the season and see how things play out.

 

[lemonybergamot]

Koivu, Greenway and + for?? Kreider? would he resign in Minnesota?

No to a super old player.

Kreider has to return at least a 1st or two very good prospects minimum. Not like the McDonagh/Miller trade either...

 

[bigdog16]

I think people might be underwhelmed at the Kreider return. Teams will know that we are in a position where we need to get rid of him because we likely let him walk at the seasons end. Don't think there will be a very long line and a bidding war for Kreider

 

[lemonybergamot]

Deep down I feel Boyle’s gonna be a Ranger before thanksgiving

There’s a reason he hasn’t signed and it’s not bc he doesn’t have offers. He’s obviously waiting on something

Haven't watched him since he left... can he still skate? Why do we want Boyle back? If for just this season, maybe, but I rather just let Andersson/Howden/Chytil/McKegg/Strome/one of those play it out. Maybe if Gorts can use Kreider to finesse a good young center from someone that'd be great too. I want to keep Kreider, but not for a long expensive contract.

 

[lemonybergamot]

I think people might be underwhelmed at the Kreider return. Teams will know that we are in a position where we need to get rid of him because we likely let him walk at the seasons end. Don't think there will be a very long line and a bidding war for Kreider

Yeah, just like the Zucc & McDonagh/Miller trade. Underwhelming imo.....

 

[E-Train]

I think people might be underwhelmed at the Kreider return. Teams will know that we are in a position where we need to get rid of him because we likely let him walk at the seasons end. Don't think there will be a very long line and a bidding war for Kreider

The Nash and Hayes deals weren't good enough? A first plus is what he’ll get.

 

[bigdog16]

Yeah, just like the Zucc & McDonagh/Miller trade. Underwhelming imo.....

The Nash and Hayes deals weren't good enough? A first plus is what he’ll get.

Zucc and Hayes were .80+ ppg players at the time they were traded. Unfortunately Kreiders never been close to that in his career. Sure we can all pull the "but Kreider offers soooo much more than points" but realistically we are the only ones who think that. Rangers fans overrate the hell out of Kreider.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Breaks down a lot of the flaws I've talked about, he panics and gets rid of the puck way too quickly in every zone

 

[Kovalev27]

Just read Carps article on Georgiev in the Athletic. Love this kid. I still have a really hard time thinking that shesterkin is better. He’s really going to have to push to show that. I don’t think we trade him in fact, maybe shesterkin goes back to Russia for a year if he doesn’t want to stay in the A.

Georgiev is going to vastly outplay hank this season. Book it

 

[duhmetreE]

Just read Carps article on Georgiev in the Athletic. Love this kid. I still have a really hard time thinking that shesterkin is better. He’s really going to have to push to show that. I don’t think we trade him in fact, maybe shesterkin goes back to Russia for a year if he doesn’t want to stay in the A.

Georgiev is going to vastly outplay hank this season. Book it

In 2019, that's not a hot take. If you switched their names, then it would be.

 

[duhmetreE]

Breaks down a lot of the flaws I've talked about, he panics and gets rid of the puck way too quickly in every zone

Chytil needs to stop sucking and be more like McDavid. That's the type of analysis I felt I was hearing.

Dumping and banging off the boards has been an issue for 2+ years. It's not conducive to 1 player. It's a bad Ruff system. It was the same in Dallas when he was there. Lindy Ruff is a blackhole for a defensemans career. I still cant comprehend why he's still here.

Trouba is not a perfect player. He has flaws but his strengths greatly outweigh his flaws.

 

[BBKers]

2-2. Expected

 

[I Eat Crow]

Thinking aloud here. Kreider is basically a goner at the deadline or before, unlikely to get an extension from us.

I wonder if Anaheim would entertain trading Nick Ritchie. Mean, nasty SOB to play against. He has some soft hands too and can put the puck in the net. He likely tops out as a 20 goal, 40 point player, but is that much worse than what Kreider is now minus his skating? RFA after this season.

 

[Inferno]

The absolute best thing that coulda happen to this franchise is for us to keep losing, and draft byfield next year..

IMHO .that is where the rebuild ends.

Panarin zibenajad kakko
Kravtsov byfield buchnevich
Chytil lias ?
? Howden ?

Miller trouba
Lundkvist DeAngelo
Hajek fox

 

[Waivers]

From the limited sample size of Shesty, I can tell he is a better goalie than Georgiev. That is not a knock on Georgiev. Georgiev is halfway decent, but Shestyorkin appears to be a different breed. I sure am glad the Rangers have this guy as the exit plan for Hank.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Byfield. That is all.

 

[JC704]

Byfield. That is all.

Byfield is no guarantee. This team has plenty of high draft selections on the roster and in the organization, and it still seems like a mess.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Byfield is no guarantee. This team has plenty of high draft selections on the roster and in the organization, and it still seems like a mess.

Kakko is no guarantee either. Wanna get rid of him?

 

[JC704]

Kakko is no guarantee either. Wanna get rid of him?

Absolutely not, but you're missing the point. At this rate the organizational plan is to basically be the Edmonton Oilers and keep hoping the next high pick is the "light at the end of the tunnel" where they have finally "completed the rebuild."

There are a lot of high picks already in the organization. Guys Gorton acquired elsewhere like Zibanejad, Strome, Trouba were at once upon a time high draft selections. We're at the point where this season should be about starting to get more out of the young players they already have.

They just traded Namestnikov to put Smith on the third line instead of seeing what they have with Lias, Kravtsov or Chytil. They also bought out Shattenkirk as a salary move... just to dump Namestnikov two games into the season. The organization has also paid Panarin, Skjei and Trouba. This should be a transition season, not another full-blown "bad" rebuild season. If you don't grow with the kids this season, then next season with Byfield we'll only really be starting to get decent looks out of guys who should've started getting good looks from the get-go this season.

They don't know if they're coming or going. That, or the "young" talent they have here... maybe isn't as good as we first thought. Which is a MAJOR issue.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Absolutely not, but you're missing the point. At this rate the organizational plan is to basically be the Edmonton Oilers and keep hoping the next high pick is the "light at the end of the tunnel" where they have finally "completed the rebuild."

There are a lot of high picks already in the organization. Guys Gorton acquired elsewhere like Zibanejad, Strome, Trouba were at once upon a time high draft selections. We're at the point where this season should be about starting to get more out of the young players they already have.

They just traded Namestnikov to put Smith on the third line instead of seeing what they have with Lias, Kravtsov or Chytil. They also bought out Shattenkirk as a salary move... just to dump Namestnikov two games into the season. The organization has also paid Panarin, Skjei and Trouba. This should be a transition season, not another full-blown "bad" rebuild season. If you don't grow with the kids this season, then next season with Byfield we'll only really be starting to get decent looks out of guys who should've started getting good looks from the get-go this season.

They don't know if they're coming or going. That, or the "young" talent they have here... maybe isn't as good as we first thought. Which is a MAJOR issue.

Mentioning Edmonton means you are dumb. Theres no other way about it. Edmonton is bad because they have bad management and can't draft players in the later rounds, not because they have drafted high. And even if the Rangers got another high lottery pick, they wouldn't still have a long way to go towards Edmontons 4 1st over pics. Next.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

No tanking. I want to win. I want to win EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. Screw the 2020 Draft. I want a Cup THIS year. Realistic? Maybe not, but I'm not going to root for us to lose.