Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[Machinehead]

Tell that too a few people in here who think that everyone is out of shape lol.

If you want it for analytics, they need to hire a coach who will actually use them. Drury is actually about them (or at least he says he is.)

Reminds me of an argument I had on here in like 2017 or some shit.

Somebody: "If I had Kreider's talent, I'd be a Hall of Famer. He doesn't work at it at all."

Me: "Kreider dead lifts 500 pounds. You are 500 pounds. I see the confusion but that's not the same thing."

 

[rangersfansince08]

Fox and Igor are 25 & 26

Igor might not even get resigned if he wants 9M plus

 

[McRanger92]

Igor might not even get resigned if he wants 9M plus

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Certainly helps that they have a 20 year old goalie prospect helping carry the team in the AHL. We'll see where both guys are in a couple years.

 

[rangersfansince08]

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Certainly helps that they have a 20 year old goalie prospect helping carry the team in the AHL. We'll see where both guys are in a couple years.

Are you that optimistic about Garand? Would be awesome for us to have him be a cheap option for like 7 years out of nowhere

 

[Fitzy]

Are you that optimistic about Garand? Would be awesome for us to have him be a cheap option for like 7 years out of nowhere

He's having a good playoffs so people are bullish on him right now.

But I want a full consistent season in the AHL before I even start thinking about that. I wanted Wallstedt

 

[McRanger92]

Are you that optimistic about Garand? Would be awesome for us to have him be a cheap option for like 7 years out of nowhere

What to do with the goalie position in 2 years is not a front burner issue for me personally, but I certainly like that Garand is making an impact and getting better as his first pro season moves along. I'm sure Allaire's fingerprints will be all over his development too.

 

[Profet]

You know who mostly sucks with first round picks but gets banger after banger after that? Dallas.

Jason Robertson was a 2nd round pick and skates like he just got shot nine minutes ago.

They're still out there.

Robertson wouldn't have enough "sandpaper" or "leadership" for this org's scouts.

 

[UnSandvich]

Fox didn't even debut until the age Kakko is now.

If you told people before he played that Fox would own real estate in the top-5 of the Norris voting, they would have put you in a soft room.

Even if you said that after his stellar rookie campaign, that would have been a blazing hot take.

I agree that the current youngsters don't look like stars but a lot of stars come out of nowhere. They're not all lottery picks.

I don't think he'll be a STAR star, but Sykora's gonna be one of those long-term gritty glue guys that can actually play the game and not hurt a team. Kid is made for playoff hockey

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Robertson wouldn't have enough "sandpaper" or "leadership" for this org's scouts.

I mean they drafted Kravtsov who has neither or any ability what so ever so I don't know that this is true.

 

[Fitzy]

I mean they drafted Kravtsov who has neither or any ability what so ever so I don't know that this is true.

Our main criteria when drafting forwards seems to be the slower the better.

 

[Synergy27]

I can't envision a realistic Lafreniere trade that nets us sufficient value back.

What position has Byfield been playing in LA? I think they have him on the wing no? Laf for Byfield straight up and shift Chytil to RW?

 

[bigdog16]

I don't think he'll be a STAR star, but Sykora's gonna be one of those long-term gritty glue guys that can actually play the game and not hurt a team. Kid is made for playoff hockey

A better skating, less skilled, Tyler Bertuzzi

 

[RangerBoy]

One thing I'm looking for is that he wants a scorer role on the PP. Kakko needs to show that he wants to be the guy not only the puck handler/setup guy. We know he's fine handling the puck but put on the big boy pants and start shooting to hurt.

9am tomorrow against the U.S.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Wolfpack has lots of lesser profile prospects/players. Which are Rangers Management seriously think have NHL future with the Rangers?

 

[bbny]

Everyone ahead of Fox in this graphic plays a fairly limited role.

Nobody puts up the analytics or the counting numbers that Fox does while being asked to play the role he does. Not just now; I can't remember anybody.

He's not Brian Leetch. He's not anybody. He's the first Adam Fox.

Well put. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. He doesn’t check any of the athletic boxes people typically look for in elite defensemen.

Speed? Nope
Size? Nope
Physicality? Nope.
Hard shot? Nope.

He just has a brain that’s large enough to be classified as the 8th continent of the world.

 

[Crease]

Trouba nominated for the King Clancy, for his contribution to brain injury studies.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Ya'll gonna be pretty disappointed when we roll basically the same team back we did to start the season minus some replacements for the holes in the roster from Kane, Tarasenko, Motte(maybe) and Mikkola leaving. It's going to happen but a new coach with a new vision of how this team plays and whats important for the long term success of the team may be enough to get us into a playoff spot and another trade deadline pick up or two.

 

[McRanger92]

Ya'll gonna be pretty disappointed when we roll basically the same team back we did to start the season minus some replacements for the holes in the roster from Kane, Tarasenko, Motte(maybe) and Mikkola leaving. It's going to happen but a new coach with a new vision of how this team plays and whats important for the long term success of the team may be enough to get us into a playoff spot and another trade deadline pick up or two.

This is the team we have. It will be on them to up their game with a new coach. They are as talented as any other team. Watch NJD/CAR and tell me we shouldn’t have beaten these 2 like many expected.

 

[Crease]

Ya'll gonna be pretty disappointed when we roll basically the same team back we did to start the season minus some replacements for the holes in the roster from Kane, Tarasenko, Motte(maybe) and Mikkola leaving. It's going to happen but a new coach with a new vision of how this team plays and whats important for the long term success of the team may be enough to get us into a playoff spot and another trade deadline pick up or two.

If the Rangers don’t win the Cup in the next couple seasons, it won’t be for lack of talent, it’ll be for lack of heart.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Ya'll gonna be pretty disappointed when we roll basically the same team back we did to start the season minus some replacements for the holes in the roster from Kane, Tarasenko, Motte(maybe) and Mikkola leaving. It's going to happen but a new coach with a new vision of how this team plays and whats important for the long term success of the team may be enough to get us into a playoff spot and another trade deadline pick up or two.

I see no reason this team won't make the playoffs. They played both Vesey and Goodrow in top 6 spots for most of the year and Harpur as 6th D and easily made the playoffs. I see the roster being better to start next year.

 

[Machinehead]

This is the team we have. It will be on them to up their game with a new coach. They are as talented as any other team. Watch NJD/CAR and tell me we shouldn’t have beaten these 2 like many expected.

It would require the talent actually being what the name on the back of the jersey says. We've talked about Panarin's struggles. I think it's fair to say Lafreniere and Kakko aren't their draft pedigree and we don't know if/when they will be.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Ya'll gonna be pretty disappointed when we roll basically the same team back we did to start the season minus some replacements for the holes in the roster from Kane, Tarasenko, Motte(maybe) and Mikkola leaving. It's going to happen but a new coach with a new vision of how this team plays and whats important for the long term success of the team may be enough to get us into a playoff spot and another trade deadline pick up or two.

I agree. Capfriendly agrees as well

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I see no reason this team won't make the playoffs. They played both Vesey and Goodrow in top 6 spots for most of the year and Harpur as 6th D and easily made the playoffs. I see the roster being better to start next year.

Same here, just commenting on everyone thinking they'll trade Kakko or Lafreniere this year. This team will have the same core going into next year, hopefully the next coach knows how to use the players to better foster the young players develpment. I think either Jones or Robertson takes a spot, Cullye too, maybe Othmann but personally id prefer he start in Hartford.

 

[McRanger92]

It would require the talent actually being what the name on the back of the jersey says. We've talked about Panarin's struggles. I think it's fair to say Lafreniere and Kakko aren't their draft pedigree and we don't know if/when they will be.

Time will tell

 

[Shadowtron]

He's having a good playoffs so people are bullish on him right now.

But I want a full consistent season in the AHL before I even start thinking about that. I wanted Wallstedt

Same here. I was so disappointed when they called Othmann.