Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[mike14]

3. It’s incredibly simple and hard to f*** up.

Now you've done it....

 

[EdJovanovski]

So he gave us 2nd worst 1st overall & 3rd worst 2nd overall in the last 16 years

 

[LokiDog]

I like the noise from Laviolette so far. We’ll see if he holds the players to it or if it’s LWL for the bottom six and whatever Artie wants the rest of the time. I’m cautiously hopeful.

But when he talks about upping the compete level… I think that some of our guys are capable of another gear, but some of them simply don’t HAVE the DNA to play a significantly more up-tempo style that requires the kind of skating and conditioning that means you experience nausea once in a while when training. That’s the kind of conditioning guys like Crosby and MacKinnon and Eichel PURSUE voluntarily. I’m not sure some of our guys are capable of digging that deep even when forced to do so.

 

[17futurecap]

So he gave us 2nd worst 1st overall & 3rd worst 2nd overall in the last 16 years

Byfield over Kakko is a stretch, but can’t really complain with this list or the Laf list.

 

[duhmetreE]

So he gave us 2nd worst 1st overall & 3rd worst 2nd overall in the last 16 years

two 'can't miss NHL ready prospects'.

I really have no clue why I watch this team sometimes

A few things about LWL:

1. In the neutral zone, it’s essentially a 2-3, with the two defensemen and one forward splitting the back line into thirds. It’s good for avoiding odd man rushes or a guy splitting the defensemen for a breakaway.

2. It doesn’t have to be the LW on the back line. On any given shift or rush, it could be the RW or the C.

3. It’s incredibly simple and hard to f*** up.

I read the article from Vince.... Hartnell mentioned that's what he played in Philly or did I misread it? That's a major stretch to go with if that's the case.

Sure, it may be a LWL but is that Vince's source?

 

[JimmyG89]

They can literally just flip the strat of you want the RW to do the job. We'd have Kakko, Wheeler, Vesey, and Goodrow. I'd say that group looks capable of that responsibility.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

So he gave us 2nd worst 1st overall & 3rd worst 2nd overall in the last 16 years

Who is this f***ing nerd and why do I care about his opinion?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

So he gave us 2nd worst 1st overall & 3rd worst 2nd overall in the last 16 years

well, so far its true. The Rongo development plan is like a 7 year plan though so by the time they're 26 or so i think Kakko will rise a bit, Buch became a stud around 26-27 and i think Kakko is more talented than him, so he could become a better version of Buch which would place him over someone like Reinhart for example.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

This team is absolutely able to play the new system, in fact i think it will give more defined roles with regards to how each player relates to their opponents and take a lot of the confusion element and running around out of the game, which in turn always tired us out. People say we're slow, i disagree, i think our system has been too loose and it tired us out.

I like the noise from Laviolette so far. We’ll see if he holds the players to it or if it’s LWL for the bottom six and whatever Artie wants the rest of the time. I’m cautiously hopeful.

But when he talks about upping the compete level… I think that some of our guys are capable of another gear, but some of them simply don’t HAVE the DNA to play a significantly more up-tempo style that requires the kind of skating and conditioning that means you experience nausea once in a while when training. That’s the kind of conditioning guys like Crosby and MacKinnon and Eichel PURSUE voluntarily. I’m not sure some of our guys are capable of digging that deep even when forced to do so.

Dig deep or ride the pine, set the tone early by benching a vet, benching Chytil or Cullye doesn't send a message.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Fatty Arbuckle?

What happened to that guy was really horrible.

 

[TGWL]

Miller will be just fine.

Now show all the ones where he's caught. Or, are we pretending those didn't exist because he has some highlights where he hustles players down. Now granted, if you play it right, your last line of defense doesn't get exposed, but if they're pairing Trouba with Miller again, I'm not sure that's going to be played correctly.

 

[Gluten Free Breadman]

Now show all the ones where he's caught. Or, are we pretending those didn't exist because he has some highlights where he hustles players down. Now granted, if you play it right, your last line of defense doesn't get exposed, but if they're pairing Trouba with Miller again, I'm not sure that's going to be played correctly.

No you.

 

[East Coast Bias]

So he gave us 2nd worst 1st overall & 3rd worst 2nd overall in the last 16 years

Look at this full kit wanker with a white board

 

[Mandar]

So he gave us 2nd worst 1st overall & 3rd worst 2nd overall in the last 16 years

most can argue as to where our 1st and 2nd overall picks would land.

But there IS NO DOUBT about where our 9th overall in the 2018 draft would rank over the last 50 YEARS......

Dead
f***ing
Last

 

[Fitzy]

Ranking NYR first round picks since 2005-

Kreider
Miller 2
Staal
Miller 1
Chytil
Skjei
Kakko
Del Zotto
Larfreniere
Lundkvist
Sanguinetti
Andersson
Kravtsov
McIlrath

Cherepanov Othmann, and Perrault not ranked

I’m sure I forgot someone so

 

[RangersFan1994]

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Ranking NYR first round picks since 2005-

Kreider
Miller 2
Staal
Miller 1
Chytil
Skjei
Kakko
Del Zotto
Larfreniere
Lundkvist
Sanguinetti
Andersson
Kravtsov
McIlrath

Cherepanov Othmann, and Perrault not ranked

I’m sure I forgot someone so

I wouldn't even bother doing any player in the last 3 years. Way too soon. No surprise the oldest players are at the top.

 

[17futurecap]

Sam telling us it’s Cooley’s first NHL goal in our home opener vs Arizona.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

If Laviolette can move the kids forward and make Panarin shoot more that would be a big improvement

 

[Rongomania]

I wouldn't even bother doing any player in the last 3 years. Way too soon. No surprise the oldest players are at the top.

Way too premature. At one year younger, Kakko outscored Kreider (Kakko's 2022/23 season to Kreids first full season). My calculations and my prediction has Kakko being a far superior player to Kreider.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

What happened to that guy was really horrible.

Didn’t be murder a prostitute ?

 

[Cmox]

Didn’t be murder a prostitute ?

didn't he crush her to death? lol

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

didn't he crush her to death? lol

That’s what I heard

 

[Savant]

Now show all the ones where he's caught. Or, are we pretending those didn't exist because he has some highlights where he hustles players down. Now granted, if you play it right, your last line of defense doesn't get exposed, but if they're pairing Trouba with Miller again, I'm not sure that's going to be played correctly.

That’s not how highlights work

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Now show all the ones where he's caught. Or, are we pretending those didn't exist because he has some highlights where he hustles players down. Now granted, if you play it right, your last line of defense doesn't get exposed, but if they're pairing Trouba with Miller again, I'm not sure that's going to be played correctly.

You’re right, let’s buy him out.