I’d be fine with that as long as chytil deidcates hkmself to being a shooter on that line!
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I like it, but I honestly like Laf Chytil Wheeler as a line even more for the mentoring.
Defensively yes.
They were ass on offense. Actually in the red in in xGF%
Personally I'd probably throw Panarin with Zib and Vesey, Laf with Chytil and Wheeler and Kakko with Kreider and Tro but those lines arent bad aside from Panarin-Wheeler being paired.
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I think I'm fine as long as Zibs IS NOT the 'matchup' center/line'. This is the biggest issue for me. I think he's decently average defensively but I do not like how he's played at 5v5 the past 2 years. Getting lost in the 'matchup' in the Playoffs as well. He needs a complete reset on his playstyle/mindset.
All 3 lines will be rolled around the same 5v5 tbh...
Kreider Trocheck Kakko intrigues me as a 'shutdown' line and a 'possession monster'. In my brain it's a 60+% xG line
I'd prefer Wheeler to play with Laffy, just for the fact that he's outspoken. He will tell him what he needs to hear, or at least that's my hope.
Laffy - Zibs/Chytil - Wheeler
Kreider - Tro - Kakko
Panarin - Chytil/Zibs - Goodrow/Vesey/Othmann
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Yeah feels like zib got caught up trying to be defensively responsible over providing offense
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I literally HATE Panarin with Zibanejad. All they do is pass the puck back and forth.
I'm not so sure about that.
If you're looking for a defensively responsible line that can dig, that would be one.
What they'd provide offensively I have no idea. Tro and Kreider with Vesey kind of fits the same bill but what we've seen from them has been shitty offense to go along with strong defense. I'd rather take a shot on the unknown and re adjust later than to go with something that hasn't shown good results.
Yes because that’s all I want from my 22 year old 2nd overall pick.
If we want the rangers to be true contenders, the best overall improvement we can make is to really engage Laf and Kakko.
if they both somehow become 60-70 pt players we are in the top 3 teams in the league.
So doing anything other than putting them into a position to facilitate that is a disservice
LaffyTaffyNYR
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But I think that IS putting himself in the best position to facilitate.
Kakko's strengths are along the wall and what made him such a menace as a prospect was his ability to win a battle and go to the net and make things happen. That part of his game has completely evaporated as a NHL player and I refuse to believe that he isn't capable of it. If he's winning battles in tighter spaces, he can force his way to the front of the net. Putting him on a line that can support that will hopefully rekindle some of that in him (see: engaging Kakko, as you want.)
Plus this has been the most tried and true way to create offense forever. People become enamored with the high flying shit but good structure snuffs that stuff out right away. This style of play is way tougher to defend since it entirely depends on your ability to win these battles.
It may not work and there are other combos I wouldn't mind seeing (Kreider-Zib-Kakko worked too) but if you're hell bent on spreading things out and separating Kreider and Zibanejad, I'm not really seeing many better alternatives.
Kakko has repeatedly shown that strength in the nhl, saying he hasn’t is really disingenuous.
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It sounds like a nightmare line for opposing teams.
Dominate possession and shutdown other teams top lines
He’s struggled a bit to take the kick to the net/slot and get a shot off
Part of that has been thinking he can make just one more move to open up an even cleaner chance instead of taking the one he created
It’s hard to beat a goalie who is squared up even if you’re in the slot but even harder to beat one when you never shoot the puck because you waited too long and were checked
Winning battles along the walls? Yes, he's become quite good at this.
Driving the net? Hell no. He's become almost allergic to it and it's annoying. The few times he has done it he's been really successful in either creating chaos or just scoring himself. Along with shooting more decisively instead of just holding on for 209323092309 seconds and then shooting are the 2 things that he really needs to change/go back to doing.
LaffyTaffyNYR
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That’s where Lav needs to instill it in both of them to shoot the puck. Make them do it at practice over and over and over.
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His system is normally predicated on it. Shooting and getting to the front for rebounds and to clean up. He even got Ovechkin to buy in a way.
A player like Kakko should flourish
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Hope Lavi pushes our young guys.
Has to be gold in the ground to mine it. Some of those draft years stunk. We did get Chy in 2017
This team isn’t gonna be drafting in the top 10 unless we tear completely down.
Igor alone keeps us out of that range.
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High end of the 2 year bridge contract. Byram got $3.85M and has been hurt more than he has been healthy. Bouchard will get same as Miller. Bouchard should get a little more. Edmonton has no money.
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They have ~2.9M for Lafreniere. Capfiendly has them at 6.1M, but this is with 8D on the roster (including Miller's new deal). Drury won't do that, someone will get sent down. Mackey or Harpur go down adding ~800K. 6.9M in space.
Lafreniere will be getting 2 years and 2.2-2.4M. Should have about 500K in wiggle room to build for deadline space.
Lafreniere will be getting 2 years and 2.2-2.4M. Should have about 500K in wiggle room to build for deadline space.
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