Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[McRanger92]

don’t want Kane. You know anyone who had that surgery and made It back as an effective player? There arent. No thanks on Kane.

Fair. Regardless I like how the team looks

 

[Crease]

One more scoring forward would make me feel better, but I am assuming Chytil / Kakko / Lafreniere do not jump meaningfully in production. If one of them does, I think the team will do well enough as currently constructed.

 

[Alluckks]

Wouldn't be opposed to Zadina on a 1 year reclamation, 3rd line RW

Kreider Zib Wheeler
Panarin Trocheck Kakko
Laf Chytil Zadina

Alternatively, if the Tarasenko route is explored (which would necessitate moving Goodrow)

4th line becomes

Cuylle Bonino Vesey

 

[Profet]

Schrodinger's Zadina.

If the Rangers don't sign him, he'll become a 20-30g forward.

If the Rangers do sign him, he'll be Kravtsov 2.0 (and not in the Ed way).

 

[EdJovanovski]

We gotta go all in on Kane

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Not buying out Goodrow is actually the right move. I went on capfriendly and looked at 24-25. Assuming the cap is 87.5 as has been speculated. Othmann, Cuylle, and possibly Garand will be on the team. Edstrom could be the 4C, or a guy making his salary.

Assuming Laf gets 2/2.35 and Miller 2/3.85. Rangers would have around $13M in cap space. With the increased cap, it becomes easier to move Goodrow. Trade him for a 6th. Whatever.

I assumed Kakko breaks out and gave him 7/7.2. Schneider 2/2. Lindgren 4/4.2. Harpur/Nash as spares or equivalent salary. Leaves 1.46M to sign a 3/4RW. Othmann plays with Panarin and Chytil. Kreider with Trocheck.

Then looking at 25-26. Laf and Miller are RFA again. So is Edstrom, Cuylle, and Jones. Those three won’t cost much. Igor a UFA. Assuming Igor gets Sorokin deal, Rangers would have about $15M in cap space. Trouba will be in the last year of his deal. M-NTC. Same clause for Kreider. Laf and Miller can sign long term and you move money out. If Laf breaks out he gets 8-8.5. Miller 6-7. They’ll have to move one veteran contract. Trocheck is movable too.

Keeping those extra millions off the cap down the line will pay off. They can probably move Goodrow next offseason because of the increased cap. Or they can buy him out then

 

[Zarao71]

I'd pass on Tank unless he'll sign a 1 or 2 year deal for Goodrow money or less.
I wouldn't even do that unless we can trade Goodrow without giving up any major assets.
You gotta think Drury is gonna want to have a look at Othmann this year. As would I.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I think you can move goody if you tag a 2nd on him. And then sign tank to 1 year $4mm

Laff-mika-kakko
Panarin-chytil-tarasenko
Kreider-trocheck-wheeler
Vesey-bonino-pitlick/cuylle

What a lineup that is for 82

But my point was why trade a 2nd rounder to move him when they could have just bought him out and received a cap credit for 2 years. Including a high draft pick to trade him would make no sense given the buyout opportunity they just passed on.

 

[mas0764]

Because if he was willing to sign a cheap one year deal why would he need a new agent to do so?

Agents tend to push for signing the highest salary deals because it's what paints them, the agents, in the best light. A guy telling an agent that he doesn't want the highest offer could force a conflict.

Schrodinger's Zadina.

If the Rangers don't sign him, he'll become a 20-30g forward.

If the Rangers do sign him, he'll be Kravtsov 2.0 (and not in the Ed way).

Its so true.

 

[Good Intentions]

WAY too much. He’s one of our top few prospects. You dont trade him for a small cap dump.

Get rid of Robertson if anyone is going.

Couldn’t disagree more. I’m keeping Robertson. Zac Jones will be waiver fodder within a year. It’s going in the wrong direction for him. Sell.

 

[bernmeister]

Here me out here. If youre drury and youre planning on trading a 2nd at the trade deadline to acquire a player of tarasenko’s caliber why not just tag a 2nd to goodrow now if thats what it takes you to move him and then sign Tank for 1 year at $4mm?

HEAR me out!
Why not listen to bern [ltb] do NOT take a hit in either cost of asset or cap hit via buy out, and for now keep Good [unless someone will take him now no retention for like a 6th to us], and once injury happens and drives up his value, move Good during season in 2023 add a 4th and get a 3rd?
LTB

Something feels wrong about trading Goodrow, Blais, 1st and 2nd for a year and a half of Tarasenko..

ya think?
full concur

I think you can move goody if you tag a 2nd on him. And then sign tank to 1 year $4mm

Laff-mika-kakko
Panarin-chytil-tarasenko
Kreider-trocheck-wheeler
Vesey-bonino-pitlick/cuylle

What a lineup that is for 82

Think you are better off not spending cap $$$ we dt have that should be used to extend, not bridge KAM
STOP W/WIN NOW BS
BERN IS RIGHT
DURY IS WRONG
ltb

 

[mas0764]

Fair. Regardless I like how the team looks

I kinda don't. It looks disjointed to me. We will see.

Wouldn't be opposed to Zadina on a 1 year reclamation, 3rd line RW

Kreider Zib Wheeler
Panarin Trocheck Kakko
Laf Chytil Zadina

Alternatively, if the Tarasenko route is explored (which would necessitate moving Goodrow)

4th line becomes

Cuylle Bonino Vesey

I'm interested in Zadina for cheap but at the same time we are the last team he should want to go to if he wants to develop.

 

[UnparalledPark]

I only see Wheeler, Gustafson and maybe Bonino as “guarantees”

I agree, but Pitlick’s attributes (forechecking and physicality) are sorely needed as well.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So someone explain the point for Scanlin to go to arbitration?

He has elected arbitration. The odds that he actually gets to arbitration is extremely low.

I don't think so, but I'd need to check to be sure. I'd imagine he's hoping for a 1-way though.

No, arbitration-awarded contracts are not exclusively 1-way.

Scanlin filing for arbitration doesn't mean it will actually go to arbitration. Drury could easily agree to an extension before an arbitration date is set.

This just fuels the conspiracy theories because it's such an odd sequence of events.

 

[NYR Viper]

Zadina is a guy I would go pretty heavily after. It's a no cost move for a pretty highly skilled player with good underlying metrics who is 23 years old. He plays a position that the team isn't overly deep at and could be signed for a small, short term salary.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

But my point was why trade a 2nd rounder to move him when they could have just bought him out and received a cap credit for 2 years. Including a high draft pick to trade him would make no sense given the buyout opportunity they just passed on.

Because dead cap is a total waste. Yes you get 2 years of credit but then 6 of dead cap. Late 2nd round picks traditionally are lucky to even make the nhl as a 4th liner

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

We gotta go all in on Kane

Which Kane?

 

[IDvsEGO]

Zadina is a guy I would go pretty heavily after. It's a no cost move for a pretty highly skilled player with good underlying metrics who is 23 years old. He plays a position that the team isn't overly deep at and could be signed for a small, short term salary.

I’ve been pounding this for a few weeks now.
His transition metrics especially are a perfect fit for our team.
Give him 2 years at 775 tell him if he makes the team he gets to play with one of Chytil Mika or trocheck as center.
That if he can hit corners he’s gonna get a ton of open looks.

We gotta go all in on Kane

At this point drury should be following you for all the things not to do.
What ever you recommend we just do the opposite

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

Wouldn't be opposed to Zadina on a 1 year reclamation, 3rd line RW

Kreider Zib Wheeler
Panarin Trocheck Kakko
Laf Chytil Zadina

Alternatively, if the Tarasenko route is explored (which would necessitate moving Goodrow)

4th line becomes

Cuylle Bonino Vesey

I thought it said Cuylle Boning Vesey... Capital B... Nice touch... But no such luck.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Couldn’t disagree more. I’m keeping Robertson. Zac Jones will be waiver fodder within a year. It’s going in the wrong direction for him. Sell.

Agree about keeping Robertson, that's the style of dman you need in your bottom 4 to win. Its too bad for Jones that he's not a bigger player and that we already have Fox. I think he's an everyday NHL player but just not in this organization.

 

[McRanger92]

I kinda don't. It looks disjointed to me. We will see.



I'm interested in Zadina for cheap but at the same time we are the last team he should want to go to if he wants to develop.

I did not expect you to like it. Not sure what else you wouldve had them do though. And don't say trade Panarin or Trouba because you are too smart to think that was a reasonable possibility this summer.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Agree about keeping Robertson, that's the style of dman you need in your bottom 4 to win. Its too bad for Jones that he's not a bigger player and that we already have Fox. I think he's an everyday NHL player but just not in this organization.

If jones was a bigger player he’d have made the rangers roster/ or never dropped to us in the first place.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Which Kane?

Harry

 

[Doriva]

Not buying out Goodrow is actually the right move. I went on capfriendly and looked at 24-25. Assuming the cap is 87.5 as has been speculated. Othmann, Cuylle, and possibly Garand will be on the team. Edstrom could be the 4C, or a guy making his salary.

Assuming Laf gets 2/2.35 and Miller 2/3.85. Rangers would have around $13M in cap space. With the increased cap, it becomes easier to move Goodrow. Trade him for a 6th. Whatever.

I assumed Kakko breaks out and gave him 7/7.2. Schneider 2/2. Lindgren 4/4.2. Harpur/Nash as spares or equivalent salary. Leaves 1.46M to sign a 3/4RW. Othmann plays with Panarin and Chytil. Kreider with Trocheck.

Then looking at 25-26. Laf and Miller are RFA again. So is Edstrom, Cuylle, and Jones. Those three won’t cost much. Igor a UFA. Assuming Igor gets Sorokin deal, Rangers would have about $15M in cap space. Trouba will be in the last year of his deal. M-NTC. Same clause for Kreider. Laf and Miller can sign long term and you move money out. If Laf breaks out he gets 8-8.5. Miller 6-7. They’ll have to move one veteran contract. Trocheck is movable too.

Keeping those extra millions off the cap down the line will pay off. They can probably move Goodrow next offseason because of the increased cap. Or they can buy him out then

All plausible and makes complete sense, we've seen our fair share of crunch from pointless deadcap over the last decade or so.

Can this be pinned to the top of every GDT thread for when Goodrow inevitably underperforms in comparison to AAV to save us from 10 pages of "why didn't we buy this guy out" ?

 

[Fitzy]

Zadina is a guy I would go pretty heavily after. It's a no cost move for a pretty highly skilled player with good underlying metrics who is 23 years old. He plays a position that the team isn't overly deep at and could be signed for a small, short term salary.

Yeah I think there's only a small percentage chance he hits, but we have space in the lineup.

Kreider-Zib-Kakko
Panarin-Chytil-Zadina
Laf-Trocheck-Wheeler
Vesey-Bonino-Goodrow

That 'third' line could actually be one hell of a group to play against, as I think about it. Could get some very favorable matchups against D pairings.