Speculation: Roster Building Thread VI (2019/2020)

[NYSPORTS]

Haley makes the roster . . . and it's not 1979 but it is still hockey.

 

[Avery16]

Disappointing to see Ronning not panning out. Surprised Elmer gets reassigned.

There are a good handful of players in Maine that are earmarked for Hartford once we can move bodies and call up Chytil and Kravstov. Dominoes.

 

[nyr2k2]

Disappointing to see Ronning not panning out. Surprised Elmer gets reassigned.

I posted this in the Hartford thread. I think unless Ronning forces his way up, and quickly, he's done as a prospect. Leedahl is done, may not even see Hartford again. Elmer was surprising to me as well, may be the numbers game, though. I also projected lines which I'm too lazy to do again.

 

[Avery16]

I was a fan of Cliff too, but not all your 7th round picks are going to make it. That’s why we stockpile them, to increase our odds.

 

[Edge]

Ho-Sang is entering that weird territory where the talent and ability is evident, but the results don't necessarily back it up --- and haven't for a while now.

Then you factor is concerns about his personality or maturity, and it starts to murky.

Teams are willing to take flyers on skill guys, and overlook concerns, provided they see signs of life. Has Ho-Sang shown that for teams to this point? I'm not sure.

But put me down as someone who hasn't been blown away by Ho-Sang for the better part of 7 years now.

 

[Edge]

Disappointing to see Ronning not panning out. Surprised Elmer gets reassigned.

Agreed, it is disappointing. On the flip side, he's also gone a lot further than the vast majority of 7th round picks.

The fact that he even became a "maybe" is pretty cool.

 

[Crease]

Islanders fans pumped Ho-Sang's tires so hard they popped.

 

[RangersFan1994]

AV coaching a Flyers team losing 4-0 to a Swiss team 15 mins left in period choke choke

 

[NYR Viper]

AV coaching a Flyers team losing 4-0 to a Swiss team 15 mins left in period choke choke

Hayes is rubbing off on his teammates already. Too much partying on the way over

 

[Kovalev27]

I don't see it with Lindgren, but if he's so close, wtf is he going to play....

They have a log jam on D

He’s at best a 6th dman I wouldn’t call him a long term option. Not with the guys we have. But he’s basically a finished product. Rykov is way better. I think Rykov is Hajek but stronger. Really wish we would have had a chance to see they competition play out. But lindgren isn’t going to play over a miller or skjei or Rykov or Hajek imo regularly. Or a Reunanen frankly. Or Robertson

 

[gravey9]

Surprised about Elmer. Thought he was pretty good at Traverse City. And strong at the end of last season in his few games. Good enough for AHL at least. The forward I'm most intrigued by is Nick Jones. I think he has a legit shot if he continues to grow.

 

[Kovalev27]

Where have I heard this before?

Second straight season we come into the year with this hanging over the team.

I really don’t get this but it seems like they have their heart set on walking away from CK. Maybe they just don’t want to spend the money on a winger when they have a kakko a Kravtsov and Panarin to pay big money too. I get that but I think he brings a ton to the table.

We’re going to sell off another 4 or 5 guys again this year. Eeeesh

 

[Machinehead]

Someone explain why Nikolay Goldobin would not be a good waiver wire pick up for this team.

He horrendous.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I really don’t get this but it seems like they have their heart set on walking away from CK. Maybe they just don’t want to spend the money on a winger when they have a kakko a Kravtsov and Panarin to pay big money too. I get that but I think he brings a ton to the table.

We’re going to sell off another 4 or 5 guys again this year. Eeeesh

How? It makes absolutely no sense to sign him to a type of deal he will be looking for. It makes absolute complete sense.

 

[Crease]

And let the Howden narrative begin.

We always have to have one on this board.

Edge I know you were high on Howden at one point early last season. Have your thoughts changed one way or another?

 

[Kovalev27]

Surprised about Elmer. Thought he was pretty good at Traverse City. And strong at the end of last season in his few games. Good enough for AHL at least. The forward I'm most intrigued by is Nick Jones. I think he has a legit shot if he continues to grow.

Really surprised Elmer didn’t make it

 

[Edge]

I really don’t get this but it seems like they have their heart set on walking away from CK. Maybe they just don’t want to spend the money on a winger when they have a kakko a Kravtsov and Panarin to pay big money too. I get that but I think he brings a ton to the table.

We’re going to sell off another 4 or 5 guys again this year. Eeeesh

I think the returns, if any, will be far more modest.

Kreider, potentially, is the crown jewel. At this point you're probably looking at a Hayes-like return if he's moved.

Strome really depends on the type of season he has. If he essentially picks up where he left off last season, you're probably looking at a second or a prospect.

Names is a guy where you potentially try to move him for a lottery ticket type prospect.

Smith and Staal aren't going anywhere.

Skjei is a distinct maybe. But there's so many variables in that hypothetical situation.

All eyes will be on Kreider.

 

[aufheben]

So Andersson, Kakko, and Hajek all changed to real numbers?

Thank f***ing god.

Howden...he seemed to play fine during the preseason.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I feel like Kravtsov went down because again, we didn't bring enough centers to do hockey with.

Howden did nothing to make the team.

Totally agree Howden did nothing to make the team, he basically made it bc they're comfortable with him being a bottom 6 center where they want Chytil to have a top 6 role. I guess the hope is give him 6 weeks or so in the AHL as 1C and maybe call him up when he looks like he's ready to win that 2c job. Kravtsov same but for getting more comfortable with NA style hockey and NA size rinks. It's just a timing issue with him really, the skill is there and even with just 2 weeks he's basically borderline there already. Let him cook for a few weeks and then call him up.

As for Howden, I'm very scared that Quinn has a blind spot with him. He looked horrible in camp, to follow up his horrible 5 or so months to end last season. And it appears he's the 3C over Lias. This makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

[Kovalev27]

too me that’s way to young and that never works. Can’t trade every vet not named Mika or Artemi. Kreider is a guy that brings a lot to this organization and can for a long time. I don’t see the value in moving a guy like that with such a young team. Really don’t like it.

A late first and a prospect is never going to bring what Kreider can over the next 5 years or so.

 

[Edge]

Edge I know you were high on Howden at one point early last season. Have your thoughts changed one way or another?

Not terribly. I've seen some good stuff, I've seen some not so good stuff.

I think he would've benefited greatly from seeing time in the AHL last season.

I still like Howden as a potential third line center, with an outside chance of being a little more. I don't have a particular problem with him seeing fourth line duty, so long as it's meaningful. In other words, having any young center pivot Cody McLeod and/or Matt Beleskey isn't going to do wonders for anyone's future.

My stances on Chytil, Andersson and Howden have remained fairly steady, despite their ups and downs.

 

[Mac n Gs]

He’s still young enough that I might be interested. But Anaheim’s 8 wingers aren’t better than the Rangers 8 wingers, so why is he making the Rangers when he couldn’t make the Ducks?

Fair, but I also wouldn't turn down the chance to nab a speedy, shoot-first RH forward that had a decent track record of scoring in his professional career. He had such a good start with the Ducks until Murray took over and banished him for not being defensive enough.

I'm still annoyed at how we tend to overpass, and I think adding another player with a shooter's mentality could help.

 

[Edge]

too me that’s way to young and that never works. Can’t trade every vet not named Mika or Artemi. Kreider is a guy that brings a lot to this organization and can for a long time. I don’t see the value in moving a guy like that with such a young team. Really don’t like it.

A late first and a prospect is never going to bring what Kreider can over the next 5 years or so.

For as young as a team as it is, I don't know if there's ever a problem bringing in vets.

Right now, in addition to the two you mentioned, we have Kreider, Smith, Staal, Lundqvist, Skjei, Trouba, Strome, Names, Fast, and even Haley. So that's 12 players potentially on the active roster.

Some guys get moved, other vets come in. Today's young talents become tomorrow's leaders. Etc. etc.

 

[Fitzy]

Gorts saying all the right things.

Chytil and Kravtsov didn’t have spots in the top 9 so rather have them get big mins in Hartford.

Wants Chytil at center

Lindgren knocking on the door will be a first call up. (Probably as soon as someone kills Hajek)

It's nice to be on the same page as the GM for a change.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

too me that’s way to young and that never works. Can’t trade every vet not named Mika or Artemi. Kreider is a guy that brings a lot to this organization and can for a long time. I don’t see the value in moving a guy like that with such a young team. Really don’t like it.

A late first and a prospect is never going to bring what Kreider can over the next 5 years or so.

We'll be paying Kreider more for less over those next 5 years. I don't see the value in doing that.

People have a hard time letting go of good players. CK has been a good Ranger but signing him to a retirement contract isn't something that sounds right for a rebuilding team who's strength is on the wing.